The Girls 2007 Thread

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Define “needs” for an 07 player

If you really can't answer that yourself then you're clueless

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Would that be Nick as in NB, formerly of NEFC and BBA?
Where is he now?

I think he is still with NEFC/BBA unless you know something you’d like to share??

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If you really can't answer that yourself then you're clueless

There is not a coach in the country that can’t teach an 11 yr old what they need to know.
Anything else is completely ego driven.

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There is not a coach in the country that can’t teach an 11 yr old what they need to know.
Anything else is completely ego driven.

Good lord.....

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There is not a coach in the country that can’t teach an 11 yr old what they need to know.
Anything else is completely ego driven.

Let me guess... U12 travel team dad coach?

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Let me guess... U12 travel team dad coach?

The intensity with which you pursue elite status is admirable.
My guess is the op is being a bit sarcastic, but they’re not far wrong.
Any halfway decent coach is capable of fully training an 11 yr old in all facets they need to learn.
But there was an earlier post about the needs of 11 yr olds and ice cream with whip cream is an appropriate response. Club soccer is about selling an idea to parents at u11, not creating the worlds next super team. Save that for the u13-14 when the game changes.

Ps. It’s not working at the u20 level either

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Let me guess... U12 travel team dad coach?

There is probably less of a difference between those playing at u18 who were trained by a travel team coach vs a high priced club clown than most here would like to admit.

I will admit to a larger discrepancy for the elite players, but that is due to their individual talent as much as anything else.

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There is probably less of a difference between those playing at u18 who were trained by a travel team coach vs a high priced club clown than most here would like to admit.

I will admit to a larger discrepancy for the elite players, but that is due to their individual talent as much as anything else.

I think you're probably the only person on this board who believes this. Too bad we'll never know because all the posts are anonymous. Btw, I am new to this thread and this is my first post. My kid played Town Travel soccer for 5 years and once she started playing Club she stopped playing Travel, not just because there was a better level of player in Club, but because the coaches were far better as well, at every age group. Good luck finding me a Town travel team with no Club players that can beat a Club team being coached by a Club coach. The Town team will lose 95% of the time, and usually by a lot. I know this because my D has competed in leagues that had a mix of both. The Travel teams got smoked most of the time and even when it was close they still lost. Town travel is *****, and the only time you run up against a Town Travel team that is really good is when it's chock full of Club players.

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There is probably less of a difference between those playing at u18 who were trained by a travel team coach vs a high priced club clown than most here would like to admit.

I will admit to a larger discrepancy for the elite players, but that is due to their individual talent as much as anything else.

Yes, that is why an elite level U12 team can and have, and will continue to beat older travel teams when the opportunity arises (usually in winter indoor leagues). The level of individual talent, combined with better coaching is the reason.

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There is probably less of a difference between those playing at u18 who were trained by a travel team coach vs a high priced club clown than most here would like to admit.

I will admit to a larger discrepancy for the elite players, but that is due to their individual talent as much as anything else.

I don't know about that. I consider myself a pretty fair student of the game, having played it for almost 40 years including college. I watch it daily still. I coached my kid in rec for a few years, and frankly wasn't a good coach. At least, I never thought I was. I'd much rather prefer to let the pro's do it.

Knowing the game and having the time and patience to teach it to kids are vastly different.

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Yes, that is why an elite level U12 team can and have, and will continue to beat older travel teams when the opportunity arises (usually in winter indoor leagues). The level of individual talent, combined with better coaching is the reason.

Talent trumps all, no pun intended.
The business of soccer has trumped all common sense.
Learn to receive a ball and the rest is easy-if you need an A license to teach that, then it’s over.

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I don't know about that. I consider myself a pretty fair student of the game, having played it for almost 40 years including college. I watch it daily still. I coached my kid in rec for a few years, and frankly wasn't a good coach. At least, I never thought I was. I'd much rather prefer to let the pro's do it.

Knowing the game and having the time and patience to teach it to kids are vastly different.

Then, you, my good friend, should know better.
40 years ago you received no training at all, yet you were able to play in college. Maybe not at Hartwick, but you could walk on the pitch virtually everywhere else.
I am aware the times have changed, but so has the exorbitant cost to play and the end game is what-to play in college?
Watching the game daily, with some touches thrown in is free and way better than an expensive club. Then go play, including district select.

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Talent trumps all, no pun intended.
The business of soccer has trumped all common sense.
Learn to receive a ball and the rest is easy-if you need an A license to teach that, then it’s over.

If you think that is what top clubs coaches are teaching then you obviously have never watched a training session with one. Maybe travel coaches are spending all their time on passing and receiving, but when my daughter played for a top club team at U13, they were working on solving problems tactically and how to break down a defense or make an offense do what you want. It was at this moment where I realized the vast divide between top level club soccer and what she had at travel. You could not teach those tactics to most mid to low level players, because frankly they are still trying to master first touch and receiving the ball. Elite players have done that years before. So while the talent is a huge factor, it still takes a top level coach to bring that talent together to build the chemistry, advance the technical, and lastly, build the tactical IQ in the players to succeed. Those are areas that never get to an elite level on most travel or mid/low club teams.

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Then, you, my good friend, should know better.
Watching the game daily, with some touches thrown in is free and way better than an expensive club. Then go play, including district select.

Way better LOL. The facts prove the opposite but go ahead living in your fantasy land. In the meantime my Club kid will continue to own your Town kid on the pitch every single time. In the meantime feel free to list all the Town kids that were recruited to play D1 or D2 soccer. Once you figure out that the number is close to zero, you can then continue to go on telling us how what you are suggesting produces better players.

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Then, you, my good friend, should know better.
40 years ago you received no training at all, yet you were able to play in college. Maybe not at Hartwick, but you could walk on the pitch virtually everywhere else.
I am aware the times have changed, but so has the exorbitant cost to play and the end game is what-to play in college?
Watching the game daily, with some touches thrown in is free and way better than an expensive club. Then go play, including district select.

I'd give my right-nut to be able to play the way the kids today can. Sure, I have a love of the game and will until I die. And, I make do with what I had. The game is changed; the world has changed. I don't drive around in a '66 Pontiac. I don't have my old wooden skis (but do free-heel). Everything has changed, and mostly for the better.

Sure, just about anyone can make a telephone. Not everyone can make an iPhone. It takes skill and expertise.

The end game is to be the best one can, to push their abilities up to, and beyond, what should be asked of them. I know better enough that takes skill to teach it.