The Girls 2007 Thread

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Not in-season unless it was a GK. I know a couple of players who were promoted from regional to national after tryouts. Not at Stars BTW.

No beef with Stars, but I find it suspect that they have 2 ECNL National teams and that parents and players still think their kids will get callups from the regional team. If Blue needs a player, it will likely come from white. Big difference in speed of play and athleticism in National vs regional. Could be wrong, but after years of the club soccer BS, I think I’m probably right

Stars Blue and white are different clubs per ECNL rules and kids can’t switch between them in the same year. Same with PDA blue & White.

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A key to understanding all of it is how Blue and White are required to operate as 2 independent clubs in the ECNL. Scorpions and FSA don’t get to shuffle players back and forth, so Stars should not get that benefit either. Thus, the blue regional team is the b team for stars blue and the white regional the b team for white.

As teams are formed the reality is the pecking order is Blue ECNL, White ECNL, Blue Regional, White Regional. See why a call up is unlikely?

Stars white is in the bottom of the standings. How is that working out? There was nothing wrong with the way things were before. If its not broken, don't fix it.
Girls are
driving long distances coming from strong teams like SPOL, Aztec, NEFC who are doing well in NPL in the NEP, only to lose every game. What a travesty.

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Stars Blue and white are different clubs per ECNL rules and kids can’t switch between them in the same year. Same with PDA blue & White.

That's interesting to hear.

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Stars white is in the bottom of the standings. How is that working out? There was nothing wrong with the way things were before. If its not broken, don't fix it.
Girls are
driving long distances coming from strong teams like SPOL, Aztec, NEFC who are doing well in NPL in the NEP, only to lose every game. What a travesty.

If being on a winning team is what is most important to those families, I suppose you’re right. Some may want the exposure of ECNL or the competition level on game day or in training. Some might want to play for a specific coach.

The driving all over the east coast is something the majority of us agree is entirely unnecessary, though.

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That's interesting to hear.

ECNL rule to limit poaching. Kids can’t go from one ECNL club to another until the next league year. If an ECNL player moves out of state mid-year (Say MA to CA) player has to petition the league for approval and I believe the club the kid is moving away from has to sign off on it.

There are a handful of clubs with two teams: Stars, PDA, Eclipse Select, Concord Fire, Sting, Michigan Hawks, Slammers and Crossfire. I think that’s it. Anyways, each clubs “Blue & White” or “North & South” however they designate them are treated by the league as entirely different clubs for the purpose of that rule.

I’m not a big fan of the two teams if they are out of the same location. However, some of these are geographically separated, for example, Sting Dallas and Sting Austin in TX, which makes more sense.

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Responding to my own post, the two teams for Sting and Crossfire are three hour drives away from each other. The two Slammers teams are an hour apart.

The rest are at least listed on the ECNL website as being out of the same city. I suspect like Stars most probably are, as both Stars teams practice out of the same fields in Lancaster.

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Stars white is in the bottom of the standings. How is that working out? There was nothing wrong with the way things were before. If its not broken, don't fix it.
Girls are
driving long distances coming from strong teams like SPOL, Aztec, NEFC who are doing well in NPL in the NEP, only to lose every game. What a travesty.

Those teams do pretty well in the NPL because the competition is awful. So nice job beating B and C teams. Get a clue NPL dad.

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And how would Stars White do in NPL????

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And how would Stars White do in NPL????

This is a very good question. Stars White is among the more difficult teams to place on the list.

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List teams:

Stars White ECNL
Stats Blue ECNL
Scorpions ECNL
Select Pre-DA
NEFC Pre-DA
GPS NPL
Aztec NPL
SPOL NPL

Let’s see who moved where, who ate their Wheaties and who kept up with their training over the winter. Less than 2 months until the first tournament of the spring.

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Those teams do pretty well in the NPL because the competition is awful. So nice job beating B and C teams. Get a clue NPL dad.

Just to note that the only "B" team in the NPL is NEFC. All of the other teams are "A" teams for their respective clubs. Not every top player/s in the area has left their club to join the DA/ECNL. I assure you right now (and may not be the same as the years progress) that those mentioned NPL teams as well as a few others (GPS, Bayside, etc.) can hang with and beat the top dogs. I would be very weary to come across any of them and write them off as a B or C team and an easy win....

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Just to note that the only "B" team in the NPL is NEFC. All of the other teams are "A" teams for their respective clubs. Not every top player/s in the area has left their club to join the DA/ECNL. I assure you right now (and may not be the same as the years progress) that those mentioned NPL teams as well as a few others (GPS, Bayside, etc.) can hang with and beat the top dogs. I would be very weary to come across any of them and write them off as a B or C team and an easy win....

GPS has a B team in there ... SSS has a B team in there and you could debate NEFC having B and C teams in there. On top of that - the bottom 2 clubs in both the NPL A&B divisions should prob just head to premiership now. The competition for the 2-3 top teams just isn’t there anymore.

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GPS has a B team in there ... SSS has a B team in there and you could debate NEFC having B and C teams in there. On top of that - the bottom 2 clubs in both the NPL A&B divisions should prob just head to premiership now. The competition for the 2-3 top teams just isn’t there anymore.

As more realize this, the talent drain will only get worse.

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Just to note that the only "B" team in the NPL is NEFC. All of the other teams are "A" teams for their respective clubs. Not every top player/s in the area has left their club to join the DA/ECNL. I assure you right now (and may not be the same as the years progress) that those mentioned NPL teams as well as a few others (GPS, Bayside, etc.) can hang with and beat the top dogs. I would be very weary to come across any of them and write them off as a B or C team and an easy win....

The 2007's are what, 7th grade? The reality is with the new recruiting rules, you will see big moves of players looking for DA/ECNL teams regardless of how good their current team is in NPL just to get the college exposure. Both top leagues generate tons of coach interest from Freshmen year on. ECNL Florida Showcase, which was 2022-2020's had 650 coaches, with a majority of D1 programs present. I'm sure DA showcases are similar.

The talent drain will happen as families don't want to miss the Spring sophomore year showcases given the rules around contact on June 15 after sophomore year now. NPL teams just don't draw the interest. When you show up for College ID camps, often they separate players into groups of DA/ECNL and everyone else. I get that everyone thinks their kid's team is currently the best. Doesn't matter. Jefferson Cup doesn't generate the interest as others leagues. Once parents realize and start leaving, it's tough for the remaining families...

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The 2007's are what, 7th grade? The reality is with the new recruiting rules, you will see big moves of players looking for DA/ECNL teams regardless of how good their current team is in NPL just to get the college exposure. Both top leagues generate tons of coach interest from Freshmen year on. ECNL Florida Showcase, which was 2022-2020's had 650 coaches, with a majority of D1 programs present. I'm sure DA showcases are similar.

The talent drain will happen as families don't want to miss the Spring sophomore year showcases given the rules around contact on June 15 after sophomore year now. NPL teams just don't draw the interest. When you show up for College ID camps, often they separate players into groups of DA/ECNL and everyone else. I get that everyone thinks their kid's team is currently the best. Doesn't matter. Jefferson Cup doesn't generate the interest as others leagues. Once parents realize and start leaving, it's tough for the remaining families...

This is pretty accurate - so what should a smart consumer do? Stay on your NON ECNL/DA team until sophomore year of high school. Generally the non ECNL /DA teams are better developmentally because they don’t have the stupid limited substitute rule. Doesn’t really benefit young kids to be pulled out of a game told what to do but then can’t go back to try and implement what the coach said. It also results in players being pigeonholed in certain positions bc the coach doesn’t have the flexibility to sub freely. So stay on your EDP /NL team until U16, subsidize with some good outside technical training, save some money and time because there isn’t as much travel and then if your kid decides they want D1 soccer switch to an ECNL/DA team at u16. ECNL/DA are not needed until the u16 age