Monitoring The MPS Impact

don't look now but MPS teams have washed out so far. On the girls side none have made it to the semis u13-u17. the boys have noone left u13-u15. the cumulative results for the girls are 0-8-4!! OUCH

You missed the 3-0 win against Aztecs at U15. Why don't you provide the the win/loss ratios of all clubs to provide a more accurate picture?

don't look now but MPS teams have washed out so far. On the girls side none have made it to the semis u13-u17. the boys have noone left u13-u15. the cumulative results for the girls are 0-8-4!! OUCH

You missed the 3-0 win against Aztecs at U15. Why don't you provide the the win/loss ratios of all clubs to provide a more accurate picture?

Probably because this is a thread about......MPS! The fact that they are bombing in state cup is really hurting the pro-MPS posters and it is obvious by all the name calling and claims of being misunderstood.

don't look now but MPS teams have washed out so far. On the girls side none have made it to the semis u13-u17. the boys have noone left u13-u15. the cumulative results for the girls are 0-8-4!! OUCH

I just checked and in all the brackets so far not one MPS team has advanced to the semis. It sure is a good thing this doesn't matter to the folks at MPS. Then again, if it really doesn't matter, why are they competing?

Yes this is a thread about MPS with a 196 posts. Probably very few MPS parents are posting because most of them could really care less what other clubs or teams think. MPS may not have been as successful as hoped at the State Cup, but we were there and obiviously leaving an impression with the amount of postings. We will continue to support our team and win or lose refrain from negative comments concerning our opponents.

don't look now but MPS teams have washed out so far. On the girls side none have made it to the semis u13-u17. the boys have noone left u13-u15. the cumulative results for the girls are 0-8-4!! OUCH

I just checked and in all the brackets so far not one MPS team has advanced to the semis. It sure is a good thing this doesn't matter to the folks at MPS. Then again, if it really doesn't matter, why are they competing?

Why do 80% of the MAPLE clubs compete? You know all the ones that didn't even make it to the RR? In fact, I think all the kids and parents with those clubs ought to go back to town soccer where their expenses to play will be a lot less. :roll:

don't look now but MPS teams have washed out so far. On the girls side none have made it to the semis u13-u17. the boys have noone left u13-u15. the cumulative results for the girls are 0-8-4!! OUCH

You missed the 3-0 win against Aztecs at U15. Why don't you provide the the win/loss ratios of all clubs to provide a more accurate picture?

Probably because this is a thread about......MPS! The fact that they are bombing in state cup is really hurting the pro-MPS posters and it is obvious by all the name calling and claims of being misunderstood.

Yes, this thread is about MPS and their impact on MAPLE clubs, so in order to be able to analyze that impact, they have to be compared to other clubs. The real reason those additional numbers aren't given is because that wouldn't support this posters point and probably expose a lot of other clubs inabilities to advance in State Cups.

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don't look now but MPS teams have washed out so far. On the girls side none have made it to the semis u13-u17. the boys have noone left u13-u15. the cumulative results for the girls are 0-8-4!! OUCH

You missed the 3-0 win against Aztecs at U15. Why don't you provide the the win/loss ratios of all clubs to provide a more accurate picture?

Probably because this is a thread about......MPS! The fact that they are bombing in state cup is really hurting the pro-MPS posters and it is obvious by all the name calling and claims of being misunderstood.

Yes, this thread is about MPS and their impact on MAPLE clubs, so in order to be able to analyze that impact, they have to be compared to other clubs. The real reason those additional numbers aren't given is because that wouldn't support this posters point and probably expose a lot of other clubs inabilities to advance in State Cups.

The reason that the records of all clubs are not posted here is because no one has has gone to the trouble to compile and post them. TnT or any of the anonymous posters are free to post them whenever they wish :)

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What an ultramaroon...what a nincowpoop...

Its from a Bugs Bunny cartoon....

I love bugs Bunny. It shows that you are a very intelligent and articulate individual. Everyone knows that Bugs Bunny was made for the adult audience.

Part of it anyway

http://www.wiseacre-gardens.com/butt...nds/bugs18.wav

Quoting Bugs is always a nice touch - and puts a little game into the post.

Yes, this thread is about MPS and their impact on MAPLE clubs, so in order to be able to analyze that impact, they have to be compared to other clubs. The real reason those additional numbers aren't given is because that wouldn't support this posters point and probably expose a lot of other clubs inabilities to advance in State Cups.

Good Point...

I just checked and in all the brackets so far not one MPS team has advanced to the semis. It sure is a good thing this doesn't matter to the folks at MPS. Then again, if it really doesn't matter, why are they competing?

From what I've read I didnt see anything saying 'it didnt matter if they won or lost.' To the posters point above, lets have a full run down on all clubs. This forum started out intelligently about 1 clubs impact has had and as usual, turned into a bashing. If we are going to bash a club about their State Cup results then have some p!lls and throw them all out there and we can all go to town about how horrible they are.

Hmm...lets see. Glancing thru the girls side up thru the RR...I dont see too many Puma teams...Select teams...Nova...Tri Valley. Yup...not a good showing up thru the RR. But look....an MPS team in each RR...

But lets simply continue to present only the facts tha help you make your biased points.

Yes, this thread is about MPS and their impact on MAPLE clubs, so in order to be able to analyze that impact, they have to be compared to other clubs. The real reason those additional numbers aren't given is because that wouldn't support this posters point and probably expose a lot of other clubs inabilities to advance in State Cups.

Good Point...

I just checked and in all the brackets so far not one MPS team has advanced to the semis. It sure is a good thing this doesn't matter to the folks at MPS. Then again, if it really doesn't matter, why are they competing?

Why are you continually baited by these other posters. It is probably some Don King wannabe who is having fun getting other people to fight and entertain him. At least your kids are playing and not hanging on a corner. Keep doing what makes your kid glad and ignore this type of crap.

From what I've read I didnt see anything saying 'it didnt matter if they won or lost.' To the posters point above, lets have a full run down on all clubs. This forum started out intelligently about 1 clubs impact has had and as usual, turned into a bashing. If we are going to bash a club about their State Cup results then have some p!lls and throw them all out there and we can all go to town about how horrible they are.

Hmm...lets see. Glancing thru the girls side up thru the RR...I dont see too many Puma teams...Select teams...Nova...Tri Valley. Yup...not a good showing up thru the RR. But look....an MPS team in each RR...

But lets simply continue to present only the facts tha help you make your biased points.

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Yes, this thread is about MPS and their impact on MAPLE clubs, so in order to be able to analyze that impact, they have to be compared to other clubs. The real reason those additional numbers aren't given is because that wouldn't support this posters point and probably expose a lot of other clubs inabilities to advance in State Cups.

Good Point...

I just checked and in all the brackets so far not one MPS team has advanced to the semis. It sure is a good thing this doesn't matter to the folks at MPS. Then again, if it really doesn't matter, why are they competing?

From what I've read I didnt see anything saying 'it didnt matter if they won or lost.' To the posters point above, lets have a full run down on all clubs. This forum started out intelligently about 1 clubs impact has had and as usual, turned into a bashing. If we are going to bash a club about their State Cup results then have some p!lls and throw them all out there and we can all go to town about how horrible they are.

Hmm...lets see. Glancing thru the girls side up thru the RR...I dont see too many Puma teams...Select teams...Nova...Tri Valley. Yup...not a good showing up thru the RR. But look....an MPS team in each RR...

But lets simply continue to present only the facts tha help you make your biased points.

Here it is for Girls 13-17:

Club Teams in RR/Semi's
Aztecs 4-1
Blackhawks 2-1
Bolts 4-2
Crusaders 2-1
CRU 1-1
Fuller Hamlets 2-1
Jr Pioneers 3-2
MPS 5-0
Napoli 1-0
NE Eagles 1-0
Noreaster 1-0
NOVA 1-0
Scorpions 4-4
SS Select 2-1
Stars 4-4
Western U 3-2

Yes, this thread is about MPS and their impact on MAPLE clubs, so in order to be able to analyze that impact, they have to be compared to other clubs. The real reason those additional numbers aren't given is because that wouldn't support this posters point and probably expose a lot of other clubs inabilities to advance in State Cups.

Good Point...

I just checked and in all the brackets so far not one MPS team has advanced to the semis. It sure is a good thing this doesn't matter to the folks at MPS. Then again, if it really doesn't matter, why are they competing?

From what I've read I didnt see anything saying 'it didnt matter if they won or lost.' To the posters point above, lets have a full run down on all clubs. This forum started out intelligently about 1 clubs impact has had and as usual, turned into a bashing. If we are going to bash a club about their State Cup results then have some p!lls and throw them all out there and we can all go to town about how horrible they are.

Hmm...lets see. Glancing thru the girls side up thru the RR...I dont see too many Puma teams...Select teams...Nova...Tri Valley. Yup...not a good showing up thru the RR. But look....an MPS team in each RR...

But lets simply continue to present only the facts tha help you make your biased points.

Here it is for Girls 13-17:

Club Teams in RR/Semi's
Aztecs 4-1
Blackhawks 2-1
Bolts 4-2
Crusaders 2-1
CRU 1-1
Fuller Hamlets 2-1
Jr Pioneers 3-2
MPS 5-0
Napoli 1-0
NE Eagles 1-0
Noreaster 1-0
NOVA 1-0
Scorpions 4-4
SS Select 2-1
Stars 4-4
Western U 3-2

I am impressed with Stars and SC getting 4 for 4. They also have top teams in U11 and 12 still playing on. We are seeing the emergence of 2 Super Clubs who will be able to attract even better players and continue to win. Personally, I would like more parity.

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My bad.
MPS dislpays and markets it championships, but State Cup results do not matter to the club. MPS says results do not matter, but it is concerned with player development. Playing in lower level leagues do not matter, because they are not concerned that it hurts player development.

I do not understand MPS. You are right.

Of course they market their successes. Of course State Cups are important, in the future you should expect those wins will be marketed as well. MPS’s State Cup results are improving each year and the wins will come as well. And, you’re sort of right, State Cups do matter, but it is not the main focus of the season as it is in MAPLE. The MAPLE season ends with State Cups while the SuperY season is just beginning. And, yes MPS is focused on development and the training of its players, but you have a different view on the importance of a league in that role. As MPS players move on to College soccer, I don’t think any of them will agree with you that their development was hurt by not playing in MAPLE. They are by far a better judge of that fact than yourself.

However, this is one of the first honest points you’ve made. You obviously don’t understand MPS. Admitting that is a big first step and a brave statement to make. MPS has now become a huge club and it’s safe to say that all of the parents and players know a fair amount about soccer and soccer clubs. They know about MAPLE, State Cups and all other tournaments.

They know what MPS says about themselves and what others like yourself say about MPS.

They know the results from State Cup.

They know all about what MPS and other clubs charge.

They have heard all of the negative stuff over and over and over again.

But still they chose MPS.

But still more and more players are trying to join.

And, despite all of the criticism from the well know personalities on Touchline, MPS has become the State’s largest soccer club.

If you really want to understand MPS:
Instead of investing so much time in criticizing MPS, why not try to figure out what they are doing right? Next, figure out why the most vocal critics come from a very small number of competing Clubs. The answers to those 2 questions will give you that understanding you’re missing and just might be helpful in any case.




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MPS is focused on development and the training of its players, but you have a different view on the importance of a league in that role.

Well said.....they don't train to play in the league, the league plays into the training.

I had the chance to see pieces of three or four MPS games this weekend. The thing that struck me isn't the purported differences between MPS and the MAPLE clubs but the similarities. I saw no appreciable difference in the style of play. Certainly you wouldn't watch the games and think they were doing anything technically or tactically different. The parents seemed nice enough. Most were very quiet but some more vocal - a lot like the parents of the teams they were playing. I didn't hear any crazy yelling your screaming from their coaches, but I didn't hear any from the opponents either. The teams were agressive and not afriad to be physical but I didn't see anything dirty or illegal from their play. They warmed up and cooled down like their opponents. Sure they lost more than they won but except for one game I saw their teams were very competitive with some of the top seeds in the tourney. In the end I just don't get what all the fuss was about. The kids seemed happy enough, the parents seemed happy enough but then again so did everyone else.