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    There's been a lot of chatter about the local DA clubs and their respective merits (or lack therof). This article sheds some insights into how a successful club manages its program. That is, if success can be measured by titles (consecutive championships at U16 & U18) and the number of homegrown player signings. They probably sent some players to decent colleges but the article doesn't mention that.

    http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs...sda-supremacy/

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    Gonzalez said each of those teams had a core group of players who competed together in the past, a situation that developed because of Dallas’ commitment to splitting their teams into single age groups. It’s a common practice across youth soccer in Europe and South America. There’s too much talent to combine age groups, Gonzalez said, especially early in player development.

    “Our dream is that the kids that played in the stadium with our pro team is not a kid who came at U-15 or U-16, although those are the case sometimes,” Gonzalez said. “But hopefully that kid was with us since U-10, U-11, U-12. FCD has been in their DNA because they’ve been here for so long, and they get more exposure to the program.” And after these players have gone through the Academy, the professional team’s technical staff has faith in their ability to play in the MLS.

    And to help maximize these players’ maturation on the pitch, the club decided two seasons ago to shuffle around the Development Academy coaches. It sent Hayden, who won a USSDA title with the U-18s in 2012, down to coach the U-14 team based on his ability to educate his players. Without the pressure of staying on top of the standings or competing for a national championship, Hayden, who Gonzalez refers to as a teacher, could focus solely on “really dissecting the game and solving problems.” Gonzalez views himself as a hybrid, capable of both instructing his players and motivating them to make winning plays, such as defending a dead ball. Molina, meanwhile, will teach the older players what it takes, both in training and in matches, to successfully compete at the professional ranks.

    “Soccer is soccer, whether it’s U-7 or U-18,” Gonzalez said. “It’s just the way things are communicated and how players are managed and the set-up of the training sessions.”

    #2
    The Revolution could take one giant tip from Dallas:

    They keep their age groups together. Number one alibi with the Revs for why their teams are constantly mediocre is that 'kids are playing up'.

    Well, try being excellent at your own age group before advancing 1,2, or 3 years.

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      #3
      You forgot to mentioned that 80% of their players grew up with a soccer culture whereas the Revs have less than 20%.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The Revolution could take one giant tip from Dallas:

        They keep their age groups together. Number one alibi with the Revs for why their teams are constantly mediocre is that 'kids are playing up'.

        Well, try being excellent at your own age group before advancing 1,2, or 3 years.
        Playing up is not Revs it's coming from USSDA

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          #5
          I like what FC Dallas is doing but there is too much emphasis on winning in the DA. Lots of talk in this article about them being at the top because they won U16 and U18 divisions. The DA should be judged on the players that make it as pro in international level.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I like what FC Dallas is doing but there is too much emphasis on winning in the DA. Lots of talk in this article about them being at the top because they won U16 and U18 divisions. The DA should be judged on the players that make it as pro in international level.
            Yes that should be the goal but winning will be primary for a few reasons (not in any order)

            - clubs don't make money sending kids off to the NT or professionally. This isn't Europe or SA. Players are free to come and go. It's unlikely to change due to US labor laws
            - DA is far too big. There are a lot of players who will never be pro players or NT material no matter how good the training. This could be solved by shrinking the system
            - Clubs need talent. Talent (and their parents) like winning records. Even at this level many parents don't know development even if it hit them on the head. This is also unlikely to change.
            - Clubs need bodies. Most clubs have some kind of fees to cover at least some of their costs so the above point applies to this as well (won't change).
            - coach ego (won't change)
            - parent pressure (won't change)

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Yes that should be the goal but winning will be primary for a few reasons (not in any order)

              - clubs don't make money sending kids off to the NT or professionally. This isn't Europe or SA. Players are free to come and go. It's unlikely to change due to US labor laws
              - DA is far too big. There are a lot of players who will never be pro players or NT material no matter how good the training. This could be solved by shrinking the system
              - Clubs need talent. Talent (and their parents) like winning records. Even at this level many parents don't know development even if it hit them on the head. This is also unlikely to change.
              - Clubs need bodies. Most clubs have some kind of fees to cover at least some of their costs so the above point applies to this as well (won't change).
              - coach ego (won't change)
              - parent pressure (won't change)
              Nah big reasons are

              1) lack of soccer culture ( huge) creates small talent pool ( no money in it compared to b'ball , football , baseball ) has something to do with it along with soccer not being commercial friendly . Slowing getting there though but MLS still has a long way to go
              2) country is too big and combined with 1) it's very difficult to get the best talent playing each other regularly

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Nah big reasons are

                1) lack of soccer culture ( huge) creates small talent pool ( no money in it compared to b'ball , football , baseball ) has something to do with it along with soccer not being commercial friendly . Slowing getting there though but MLS still has a long way to go
                2) country is too big and combined with 1) it's very difficult to get the best talent playing each other regularly
                I'd put those in addition to the others, although I don't fully agree with the talent pool piece. We have plenty of great players/athletes - we suck at nurturing them from an early age. Most entry level programs at the u littles are volunteer coaches or college students making $20/hour. and moving up the club ladder there's plenty of coaches that suck. Development opportunities are lost along the way then we expect DA to fix it all. As for culture that is true - we don't have one but it's slowly building

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I'd put those in addition to the others, although I don't fully agree with the talent pool piece. We have plenty of great players/athletes - we suck at nurturing them from an early age. Most entry level programs at the u littles are volunteer coaches or college students making $20/hour. and moving up the club ladder there's plenty of coaches that suck. Development opportunities are lost along the way then we expect DA to fix it all. As for culture that is true - we don't have one but it's slowly building
                  Nope. It's all still root cause based on my two factors. nurture thing is culture related- we don't have a strong soccer culture. We have some POTENTIAL talent but lose a lot of talent to the top four sports.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Nope. It's all still root cause based on my two factors. nurture thing is culture related- we don't have a strong soccer culture. We have some POTENTIAL talent but lose a lot of talent to the top four sports.
                    DA can't do anything about that. They need to work with what they have

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                      #11
                      International experience, quality relationships, tireless work ethic

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      DA can't do anything about that. They need to work with what they have
                      " It’s been a combination of talented players with a tireless work ethic, international experiences and quality relationships with the first team that’s propelled FC Dallas to the top of the Development Academy."

                      says it all. (would translate tireless work ethic to over 7 hrs of training /week, but hey, one step at a time)

                      Plenty of soccer culture kids in New England. Need the mentality of those who know it to foster development backed by upper echelons with outdated mindsets (e.g. that football has a bigger future than soccer). Still need significant exposure to Europe for immersion.

                      IMHO kids looking to go to college to play soccer should play in the ISL. Instead, they are waist deep in MLS trying to get a college education / scholarship / high level team. Nice digs certainly, but not what makes pros or exciting soccer for that matter.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

                        Plenty of soccer culture kids in New England.
                        nope. soccer culture here is extremely lame. the kind of soccer culture I'm talking about has little chance of ever happening here. I'm talking about what you experience in places like Brazil- a country as big as ours yet reeks talent - why? because they live it every day. They have soccer coming out of their pores in the favellas over there. Here it's football and baseball and to a smaller extent hockey. Soccer is a blip.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          nope. soccer culture here is extremely lame. the kind of soccer culture I'm talking about has little chance of ever happening here. I'm talking about what you experience in places like Brazil- a country as big as ours yet reeks talent - why? because they live it every day. They have soccer coming out of their pores in the favellas over there. Here it's football and baseball and to a smaller extent hockey. Soccer is a blip.
                          Wrong. Still a long way to go but...

                          http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fif...me-u-s-n365601

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            nope. soccer culture here is extremely lame. the kind of soccer culture I'm talking about has little chance of ever happening here. I'm talking about what you experience in places like Brazil- a country as big as ours yet reeks talent - why? because they live it every day. They have soccer coming out of their pores in the favellas over there. Here it's football and baseball and to a smaller extent hockey. Soccer is a blip.
                            Soccer certainly has made inroads. Soccer has been the game of choice on elementary school playgrounds in this state for the past decade or more, not basketball, baseball, or football.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Soccer certainly has made inroads. Soccer has been the game of choice on elementary school playgrounds in this state for the past decade or more, not basketball, baseball, or football.
                              Take yourself out of MA for awhile - go to the midwest or down south and other sports reign supreme. Lax has ramped up not just in this area but elsewhere as well - football is finally starting to see dropoffs

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