GU 14 ratings for massachusetts teams

[mathman]

Mathman,
I have always been curious about something. How "dynamic" are your ratings. If a team that was say 225 picked up a couple of super players that made them an 800 team how long would it realistically take until their rating caught up with their skill level

Basically, a long time. I have run statistical experiments on just this kind of thing.

If a team is rated at 200, but really should be rated 800 (through the addition of players, or a different coach, or a mistaken assigment by me for an initial rating for the team), their rating would probably increase about 200 points in the first 6 games. But it would take about 40 games for them to be consistently rated at 800.

But there are a lot of assumptions that go into this, none of them unassailable. The primary assumption is that they will get to regularly play teams rated 400 to 600 points higher than they are. That's pretty unlikely (though not impossible: in the Coast League and LIJSL, the powers-that-be can promote a team by several divisions if it seems warranted).

You gain big points by beating teams rated a lot higher than you. If you just play teams rated the same as you, the most number of points you can gain in a single game is 38 points if you beat them 6-0. But as you gain ratings points, you gain fewer points by beating the same team 6-0. For instance, if you have increased your rating to 200 points higher than the teams you regularly play, the same 6-0 win will only gain you 18 points. At a 400 point difference, it's only a gain of 7 points. And at a 900 point difference, you don't gain any points.

When I finally get up the website on this stuff, there will be lots more information on how this works.

[skinny maradona]

Thanks Mathman,

Yes I am from CT. Have two kids playing, one with Oakwood, younger one with CFC.
Not sure if it was you or someone else but I agree completely about CT being a technological backwater. Why CJSA cannot get a decent scheduling and results website online is beyond me.
Some CFC background that may help. I may not be 100% but this is what I have figured out.
CFC is actually registered though two clubs, Rocky Hill in the North Central district and CT United in the Southwest. Through Rocky Hill they have the CFC Wolves (A teams) and CFC Wildcats(B teams) that practice and play in that area. They also had the now defunct World Class teams that they absorbed in a merger 3 or 4 years ago. Plus the current U14 Wildcats played as CFC Glastonbury for a year or two.
Still registerd through Rocky Hill but playing a little further down I-91 in Hamden are the CFC Impact teams. These were previously the CFC Comets and CFC Galaxy teams. The name change came after some of the teams left to join Yankee United (The current U12 ,U14 stayed with CFC)
Now, moving to Southwest we have the teams registered through the CT United club. These are the CFC Arsenal (A) and CFC Gunners (B) teams.
These are based in the Fairfield/Newtown area.

Also registerd through CT United are the CUFC teams. These are formed at U15 and above only and are the "elite" teams for the organisation. Some of these are existing teams that move largely intact from being a CFC team to a CUFC team. Others are mergers of two or more teams. The CUFC U15 is an example of this as it was a merger of last year State Cup finalists Comets and Arsenal.
One thing that appears to confuse people is CT United teams and CUFC teams. Below U15 is CFC only, U15 and above is both CFC and CUFC.

eh???

[mathman]

Thanks Mathman,

Yes I am from CT. Have two kids playing, one with Oakwood, younger one with CFC.
Not sure if it was you or someone else but I agree completely about CT being a technological backwater. Why CJSA cannot get a decent scheduling and results website online is beyond me.
Some CFC background that may help. I may not be 100% but this is what I have figured out.

(snip)

Geez, where were you last summer, when I was trying to tease all this Yankee/CFC/Gunners/Galaxy/Wolves/Impact/blahblahblah nonsense apart? I probably spent 8 hours trying to figure out who was who, and where they went, and....

Also, there was at least one tournament where CT United Arsenal was listed as CUFC Arsenal, which confused the heck out of me.

I eventually figured out all of the stuff you mention, but you had to be a freaking Sherlock to sort it all out.

If, at any point, the names of the CFC teams change, could you let me know via PM?