Offers

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Right, so let's eradicate the term "offer" from the youth sports lexicon. It's nothing more than a feel good parental marketing ploy. Might seem simplistic, but the major problem with pay to play youth sports in this country.

Of course it's an offer. You cannot ignore basic contract law simply because the concept offends you.

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But I though the big clubs in MA were non-profits?

A nonprofit organization (NPO, also known as a non-business entity[1]) is an organization the purpose of which is something other than making a profit.[2] A nonprofit organization is often dedicated to furthering a particular social cause or advocating for a particular point of view. In economic terms, a nonprofit organization uses its surplus revenues to further achieve its purpose or mission, rather than distributing its surplus income to the organization's shareholders (or equivalents) as profit or dividends. This is known as the distribution constraint.[3] The decision to adopt a nonprofit legal structure is one that will often have taxation implications, particularly where the nonprofit seeks income tax exemption, charitable status and so on.


There is no where in this description that says the organization doesn't have to pay for equipment, fields, coaches, insurances, legal services, offices etc etc etc.
Where do you think this money comes from??
At the end of the day, the organization has to show how it serves its 'mission' i.e. to serve the community sports world. However, there are no real limitations on what it pays its employees....or even the BOD.

Someone has to pay for the service!!!

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A nonprofit organization (NPO, also known as a non-business entity[1]) is an organization the purpose of which is something other than making a profit.[2] A nonprofit organization is often dedicated to furthering a particular social cause or advocating for a particular point of view. In economic terms, a nonprofit organization uses its surplus revenues to further achieve its purpose or mission, rather than distributing its surplus income to the organization's shareholders (or equivalents) as profit or dividends. This is known as the distribution constraint.[3] The decision to adopt a nonprofit legal structure is one that will often have taxation implications, particularly where the nonprofit seeks income tax exemption, charitable status and so on.


There is no where in this description that says the organization doesn't have to pay for equipment, fields, coaches, insurances, legal services, offices etc etc etc.
Where do you think this money comes from??
At the end of the day, the organization has to show how it serves its 'mission' i.e. to serve the community sports world. However, there are no real limitations on what it pays its employees....or even the BOD.

Someone has to pay for the service!!!

There is a distinct different between organizations that put profits before their mission and those that put their mission before profits. I'd say there are some programs that have lost sight of this - plain and simple. No need to blur and confuse things with what everyone knows is BS legal language - that's a part of a much bigger problem that's covered elsewhere in this forum.

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There is a distinct different between organizations that put profits before their mission and those that put their mission before profits. I'd say there are some programs that have lost sight of this - plain and simple. No need to blur and confuse things with what everyone knows is BS legal language - that's a part of a much bigger problem that's covered elsewhere in this forum.

I'm not sure it it was ever part of the mission of many non-profit clubs. If it were they wouldn't be charging such high fees and they'd plow most of their profits back into programs that helped players and the communities (like scholarships or fields). Non-profit is a very broad term and in this case benefits club owners. They are not on the same playing field as aid organzitions, food pantries, etc.

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Of course it's an offer. You cannot ignore basic contract law simply because the concept offends you.

Instead, let's eradicate people that attempt to insert political correctness into every aspect of life.

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Will NEFC be fielding a 2002 or 2003 Boys team?

Yes, for 2002 durkin address that at a parent meetings on Monday. Ask the club about 2003

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There were many girls and only one team. Explain that? I talked to some parents who never heard whether their kid was "placed" on the team... We got our call within 24 hours.

I can remember a time when clubs didn't offer anything other than a couple of practices per week and T-shirts for uniforms. Let's face it, club soccer has grown in complexity in leaps and bounds since back in those days. Tryouts were simple when you were only fielding one team and only had to notify 2-3 bubble players of their fate. Though parents don't want to hear it now clubs could be dealing with hundreds of such players so it does take some time to settle it all out. The fact that the families do have many more choices today does actually complicate matters but that is a good thing in the long run. The thing they need to know is the clubs are actually much better organizationally today than they were back in the mom and pop days and most actually do offer way more in the way of soccer services than they ever did. Just the fact that you have clubs now hiring essentially "lobbyist" type coaches to impact the environment at a policy level speaks to how far things have come. For those of you that want to lament the demigod days of the mom and pop club and act as those none of those club owners were pocketing boat loads of cash and giving little back you are showing that you have so little understanding of what club soccer is about these days it's not even funny. You are talking about a lemonade stand and comparing it to a super market. Nostalgia never really takes the place of reality.

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Yes, for 2002 durkin address that at a parent meetings on Monday. Ask the club about 2003

He has an 02 son so of course they will.
A club the size of NEFC will have multiple teams at every age group. Not sure why you would ask.

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I can remember a time when clubs didn't offer anything other than a couple of practices per week and T-shirts for uniforms. Let's face it, club soccer has grown in complexity in leaps and bounds since back in those days. Tryouts were simple when you were only fielding one team and only had to notify 2-3 bubble players of their fate. Though parents don't want to hear it now clubs could be dealing with hundreds of such players so it does take some time to settle it all out. The fact that the families do have many more choices today does actually complicate matters but that is a good thing in the long run. The thing they need to know is the clubs are actually much better organizationally today than they were back in the mom and pop days and most actually do offer way more in the way of soccer services than they ever did. Just the fact that you have clubs now hiring essentially "lobbyist" type coaches to impact the environment at a policy level speaks to how far things have come. For those of you that want to lament the demigod days of the mom and pop club and act as those none of those club owners were pocketing boat loads of cash and giving little back you are showing that you have so little understanding of what club soccer is about these days it's not even funny. You are talking about a lemonade stand and comparing it to a super market. Nostalgia never really takes the place of reality.

Sounds beneficial for clubs, not players. Let's see how many top quality players the corporate machines turn out. Looks like you have drunk the lemonade.

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I'm not sure it it was ever part of the mission of many non-profit clubs. If it were they wouldn't be charging such high fees and they'd plow most of their profits back into programs that helped players and the communities (like scholarships or fields). Non-profit is a very broad term and in this case benefits club owners. They are not on the same playing field as aid organzitions, food pantries, etc.

Really? Have you ever looked at what the boards of some of those aid organizations get paid - makes the youth soccer folks look like they've taken a vow of poverty.

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I can remember a time when clubs didn't offer anything other than a couple of practices per week and T-shirts for uniforms. Let's face it, club soccer has grown in complexity in leaps and bounds since back in those days. Tryouts were simple when you were only fielding one team and only had to notify 2-3 bubble players of their fate. Though parents don't want to hear it now clubs could be dealing with hundreds of such players so it does take some time to settle it all out. The fact that the families do have many more choices today does actually complicate matters but that is a good thing in the long run. The thing they need to know is the clubs are actually much better organizationally today than they were back in the mom and pop days and most actually do offer way more in the way of soccer services than they ever did. Just the fact that you have clubs now hiring essentially "lobbyist" type coaches to impact the environment at a policy level speaks to how far things have come. For those of you that want to lament the demigod days of the mom and pop club and act as those none of those club owners were pocketing boat loads of cash and giving little back you are showing that you have so little understanding of what club soccer is about these days it's not even funny. You are talking about a lemonade stand and comparing it to a super market. Nostalgia never really takes the place of reality.

Interesting analysis, BTNT. Guess you really cannot make up your mind. Sounds like you believe "the environment" and "the landscape" have really advanced which is a little confusing given your constant drumbeat about how horrible and "broken" and "watered down" everything is. Duplicity again, anyone?

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Interesting analysis, BTNT. Guess you really cannot make up your mind. Sounds like you believe "the environment" and "the landscape" have really advanced which is a little confusing given your constant drumbeat about how horrible and "broken" and "watered down" everything is. Duplicity again, anyone?

Other than its just what you do, why the attack, does anyone actually see the environment as either terribly healthy or particularly competitive?

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He has an 02 son so of course they will.
A club the size of NEFC will have multiple teams at every age group. Not sure why you would ask.

I answered, I didn't ask.

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Other than its just what you do, why the attack, does anyone actually see the environment as either terribly healthy or particularly competitive?

Then why did you go to so much trouble to write a lengthy sermon about how much better everything is? Because in this instance you were talking about your beloved NEFC? Let's see if you can answer any posts today with some argument instead of spewing mindless profanities.

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Clearly someone is feeling some heat from NEFC. Sux to suck