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    Great Clubs Lose Players

    Great Clubs Lose Players
    http://www.switchingthefield.com/gre...e-players.html

    To be successful in life, the first step must always be to define what success means. What is the end goal? How will we determine whether or not we are successful in achieving that goal?

    Throughout the United States, there are many youth soccer clubs. Many of them claim to have “the best training” or be all about “player development.” But are they really? Do most clubs really have the best interests of player development in mind? Do they really have top-quality training?

    One easy way to determine this is by asking these clubs how they define success. What metric do they use to determine whether or not they are successful?

    Some clubs still measure by the archaic method of counting trophies, division placement, league wins, etc. If a youth club is using match results as evidence of the quality of their training or player development, run away. Fast.

    Many other clubs define success by player retention. In fact, I know that many clubs will determine the quality of their staff simply by the retention rate of their players. If players leave, the coach must be terrible. If players stay – or even better, the numbers grow – the coach must be great! Many clubs will determine that they must keep all 20 of their teams intact, or always have 300 kids registered in order to succeed.

    This measurement is severely flawed. Player and team retention are clues that quality might exist, but they are not the distinguishing factors of a superior youth club. It is not a youth club’s job to retain players. Its job is to produce quality players and people.

    It is true that if a club is providing a positive environment, players will stay. However, the only thing better than players staying, is players leaving.

    Now, if a player leaves because the coach was a jerk or he never got playing time in matches, then obviously, the player leaving is not a good sign. As always, the most important question is “why?”.

    Why do players leave? If players leave for the right reasons, then it is a great sign for the club.

    What is a good reason for players to leave? They become too good for the club and leave for a better opportunity. Youth clubs must make it their goal to develop players, then happily “graduate” them to higher levels – not cling on to them so that they can help the team win.

    The fact is that every organization has its place. Not everyone can be the club with all the best players. Someone needs to be developing the lower-tier and/or beginner players. In fact, the vast majority of clubs fit this mold.

    So how do we differentiate between all these clubs? The ones that consistently send the most players to higher levels are the best. Think about it: If a youth club has produced eight national team players, that’s a great indication of quality, and everyone knows it.

    But let’s take it to a more common level: What if a club has had 20% of their players eventually leave and join another local club with the best players in the area? What if a club has 60% of their players eventually play at a higher level, such as college or professional? What if a club has at least one player each year join the local professional team’s youth team? All of these are signs of quality training and player development.

    Youth clubs are about producing quality players. Period. If players are consistently moving to higher levels, then the club must be doing something right.

    Surely, a club or coach is never fully responsible for a player becoming a standout. Most players make it because they put in extra work themselves. However, it does take proper nurturing of these players for them to fulfill their potential. This nurturing is largely the youth club’s doing.

    Building a Sustainable “Player Leaving” Model
    If a club is so good at producing players that the players keep leaving, how can they survive? All their players are leaving (for good reason), but they need kids in order to exist.

    Clubs that send players off to higher levels need to shout their success stories from the mountain tops. Players moving on to higher levels is their best marketing tool! If these clubs start telling everyone about all the players that have played there then successfully moved on to higher levels, more players will come play for them. The more players leave for the right reasons, the more other kids will come to try and become someone who eventually leaves. And realistically speaking, the number of new kids who come will likely be much larger than the number of kids who leave.

    So the next time we find ourselves stressing and trying to stop one of our best players from leaving for a bigger or better opportunity, remember: This is proof that we are a great club, not just a good one. It is a success, not a loss.

    #2
    This is a great article. Thanks for sharing it. There are clubs that help their kids with placement in the Revs Academy that take this approach, but they are in the minority.

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      #3
      Players leave for various reasons. It takes a club with a growth-mindset type DOC and Technical Director to allow players to leave with their blessing for the right reasons. Unfortunately, the pay-to-play model discourages this type of thinking because clubs are more concerned with loss revenue than developing great players.

      And let's not forget forget how many clubs bait-and-switch parents and players with their mission statement for a program that is infected with politics, bad coaching, and minimizes the holistic experience for its youth players. Pay-to-play has made sports a lot less about having fun and more like a job.

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        #4
        Best line "What is a good reason for players to leave? They become too good for the club and leave for a better opportunity. Youth clubs must make it their goal to develop players, then happily “graduate” them to higher levels – not cling on to them so that they can help the team win."

        Winning = more people want to join the club = more revenue.

        I will be forever grateful to a coach who told us early on our oldest had greater potential that what his club could offer. He encouraged us to move up and he was right. Sadly I haven't encountered another like him since with my other two. So that leaves me as a parent - who doesn't know that much about soccer - trying to figure out what is best for my kids. It's no wonder there's so much club hopping for all the right and wrong reasons.

        On the flip side you'd hope a club would be honest when they think a move is a bad idea, but no matter what they say it they come across as disingenuous so no one would ever believe them.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Players leave for various reasons. It takes a club with a growth-mindset type DOC and Technical Director to allow players to leave with their blessing for the right reasons. Unfortunately, the pay-to-play model discourages this type of thinking because clubs are more concerned with loss revenue than developing great players.

          And let's not forget forget how many clubs bait-and-switch parents and players with their mission statement for a program that is infected with politics, bad coaching, and minimizes the holistic experience for its youth players. Pay-to-play has made sports a lot less about having fun and more like a job.
          The poster said there were a variety of reasons, some good and others not. But you are right about the business side of clubs. In the absence of a wealthy benefactor, clubs have to sustain themselves as well, both monetarily and in the W/L category. The former is obvious, the latter, unfortunately, becomes a large draw for parents in the absence of data is published about clubs feeding into the top tier, college ranks, national teams, or professional leagues.

          There are few smaller clubs i.e. one team at each age level that truly sustain themselves for long periods of time before either merging or becoming bigger. NEFC, GPS, Stars are large clubs with many teams at each age level to satisty the monetary part of things. On the girls side, they are the top tier clubs but on the boys side, they regularly lose players to the DAP, so they are then able to pull from their lower ranks. The Bolts, which resisted for years to truly merge, now have taken on other clubs and areas to form regions, which, hopefully, feed into their own DAP teams. Other clubs are not able to do this and eventually lose out. Although these smaller clubs may be the best developers of skill, they ultimately lose out as they are not able to consistently sustain quality teams over the U13/U14 age group. These clubs remain lower level or merge.

          Valeo has been the exception....for now. Instead of merging they expanded to the point of having at least 3-4 teams at each group spread over two different locations (Newton and Boston) up until the age of U14. They have had one older team do well but none consistently so. Although one or two have left for the DAP teams, they have been able to sustain their roster and are considering taking over other clubs (already took over a small West Roxbury club). The bottom line, however, was that they needed to expand in order to survive and are not playing the 'bait and switch' with players, promising one team but then delivering another all while building up their top team during the season. While certainly understandable and 'professional', for the lower 8 players on the 'A' team it seems, like the other clubs listed, like a 'bait and switch' while you wait to see if you are selected for the top team each week.

          However, this is not much different than college, national, or the professional teams......just at a much younger age when you would like clubs to be loyal to the customer first.......afterall, they are the ones paying.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The poster said there were a variety of reasons, some good and others not. But you are right about the business side of clubs. In the absence of a wealthy benefactor, clubs have to sustain themselves as well, both monetarily and in the W/L category. The former is obvious, the latter, unfortunately, becomes a large draw for parents in the absence of data is published about clubs feeding into the top tier, college ranks, national teams, or professional leagues.
            At the younger ages those stats should be irrelevant. It truly should be about player development, but that is an impossible to measure statistic. It's become too easy for clubs that have those college stats to use them as proof that they develop players when in fact often times the best players come to them after years of development elsewhere. In the meantime how many kids who start at a good club at U11 are still there by U14 or beyond? The churn is crazy and is a primary reason why clubs have to market themselves so heavily.

            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            However, this is not much different than college, national, or the professional teams......just at a much younger age when you would like clubs to be loyal to the customer first.......afterall, they are the ones paying.
            Beyond the caring about the customer part (which clubs mostly do not but many coaches do) as an adult you'd like to think they actually cared about the kids. Their development period is a fleeting amount of time you can't get back.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              At the younger ages those stats should be irrelevant. It truly should be about player development, but that is an impossible to measure statistic. It's become too easy for clubs that have those college stats to use them as proof that they develop players when in fact often times the best players come to them after years of development elsewhere. In the meantime how many kids who start at a good club at U11 are still there by U14 or beyond? The churn is crazy and is a primary reason why clubs have to market themselves so heavily.



              Beyond the caring about the customer part (which clubs mostly do not but many coaches do) as an adult you'd like to think they actually cared about the kids. Their development period is a fleeting amount of time you can't get back.
              Well said.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                as an adult you'd like to think they actually cared about the kids. Their development period is a fleeting amount of time you can't get back.
                Do people actually buy into this sort of crap? If you want your club to take the long term view and treat your kid the same way baseball minor league teams do - like a long term investment where the development pays off, then sign a long term contract with your youth soccer club, something like 6 years and agree to pay them for long term development and have your little "kiddie" sign an agreement to commit to actually putting in the effort required to develop (might have to make a few sacrifices like fewer video games, or time with friends along the way). But until you're willing to do that stop whining and accept it for what it is - a part time service capable of making your kid a competent high school and maybe a Div III player. It's not a career development channel. And it certainly isn't a "reach your potential" opportunity - that would require at least triple the practice time than what you are willing to pay for.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Do people actually buy into this sort of crap? If you want your club to take the long term view and treat your kid the same way baseball minor league teams do - like a long term investment where the development pays off, then sign a long term contract with your youth soccer club, something like 6 years and agree to pay them for long term development and have your little "kiddie" sign an agreement to commit to actually putting in the effort required to develop (might have to make a few sacrifices like fewer video games, or time with friends along the way). But until you're willing to do that stop whining and accept it for what it is - a part time service capable of making your kid a competent high school and maybe a Div III player. It's not a career development channel. And it certainly isn't a "reach your potential" opportunity - that would require at least triple the practice time than what you are willing to pay for.
                  So we'll be posting on Sunday, too? Good to see at least one poster willing to put in the extra hours on TS.

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