US Club/NEP Birth Year

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Heard that NEP voted to go birth year in August 2016 v waiting until the mandatory August 2017.

I like the move and glad it is finally no longer a rumor!

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We needed this.

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We needed this.

No, we really didn't.

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Interesting to read some reactions:
http://goalnation.com/top-docs-regar...ccer-mandates/

My daughter is at a regional satellite of a big club. Unfortunately, she's a 02 but 3/4 of her teammates are 03s, so they won't have a team for her next year....unless the 3/4s all want to play up a year.

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Interesting to read some reactions:
http://goalnation.com/top-docs-regar...ccer-mandates/

My daughter is at a regional satellite of a big club. Unfortunately, she's a 02 but 3/4 of her teammates are 03s, so they won't have a team for her next year....unless the 3/4s all want to play up a year.

Same with our team.

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Heard that NEP voted to go birth year in August 2016 v waiting until the mandatory August 2017.

I like the move and glad it is finally no longer a rumor!

Do we really need another thread on this subject? It has been discussed for months now!
Old news.

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Do we really need another thread on this subject? It has been discussed for months now!
Old news.

No we don't - but in that link there was one coach's statement that sums it up well

“As for the change to a birth year format, like most people I am conflicted. I am certainly sympathetic to friends who will be separated and teams which will certainly be altered. Change is difficult, and that is most apparent initially. Saying that, American soccer will follow a more traditional world model, and benefits could potentially be seen for our youth national teams. I believe that clubs with good leadership, forward thinking staff, depth of talent, and open, honest communication will handle the transition appropriately. Parents should be educated on the changes, and most importantly how that will affect their child. I am hopeful the move to calendar year to align with the majority of the world will prove a good decision and Celtic will implement a comprehensive plan to adjust to the changes.” -

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No we don't - but in that link there was one coach's statement that sums it up well

“As for the change to a birth year format, like most people I am conflicted. I am certainly sympathetic to friends who will be separated and teams which will certainly be altered. Change is difficult, and that is most apparent initially. Saying that, American soccer will follow a more traditional world model, and benefits could potentially be seen for our youth national teams. I believe that clubs with good leadership, forward thinking staff, depth of talent, and open, honest communication will handle the transition appropriately. Parents should be educated on the changes, and most importantly how that will affect their child. I am hopeful the move to calendar year to align with the majority of the world will prove a good decision and Celtic will implement a comprehensive plan to adjust to the changes.” -

Here are the points that make little sense to many of us:
1. 99.9% of the players will NOT play internationally, but WILL play for schools which typically follow the Sept-Aug calendar. So kids with a late birthday (e.g. Sep-Dec) will be at a disadvantage when they get to HS (If you subscribe to Malcolm Gladwells "Outliers" concept)
2. If USCS really believes that changing to a calendar based system will improve the fate of our international teams, then I would say US Soccer is doomed!!! The US women have been successful for years. This will do NOTHING to improve the state of the game in the US.

Net/net the calendar change will be detrimental to nearly all US soccer players and will not help the national teams one bit. This is another example of the US trying to "fit in" with the rest of the world without thinking of its own interests first.

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Here are the points that make little sense to many of us:
1. 99.9% of the players will NOT play internationally, but WILL play for schools which typically follow the Sept-Aug calendar. So kids with a late birthday (e.g. Sep-Dec) will be at a disadvantage when they get to HS (If you subscribe to Malcolm Gladwells "Outliers" concept)
2. If USCS really believes that changing to a calendar based system will improve the fate of our international teams, then I would say US Soccer is doomed!!! The US women have been successful for years. This will do NOTHING to improve the state of the game in the US.

Net/net the calendar change will be detrimental to nearly all US soccer players and will not help the national teams one bit. This is another example of the US trying to "fit in" with the rest of the world without thinking of its own interests first.

AVB

Yup. I have zero doubt that my late growing D1 Scholarship kid with a Nov birthday would have moved onto a different sport around 12/13ish had this calendar year thing been in effect. Here's a little news flash for all you supporters - the dates may have changed, but the clubs are still going to favor the early bloomers to get their GS points up as early and as often as they do now. So glad I am almost done with this.

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Yup. I have zero doubt that my late growing D1 Scholarship kid with a Nov birthday would have moved onto a different sport around 12/13ish had this calendar year thing been in effect. Here's a little news flash for all you supporters - the dates may have changed, but the clubs are still going to favor the early bloomers to get their GS points up as early and as often as they do now. So glad I am almost done with this.

Bitter much? I'm so glad you've enjoyed your time with the sport. Go off into retirement. Thanks for your contributions.

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You can actually move on now so you can be done with this now.

Yup. I have zero doubt that my late growing D1 Scholarship kid with a Nov birthday would have moved onto a different sport around 12/13ish had this calendar year thing been in effect. Here's a little news flash for all you supporters - the dates may have changed, but the clubs are still going to favor the early bloomers to get their GS points up as early and as often as they do now. So glad I am almost done with this.

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Heard that NEP voted to go birth year in August 2016 v waiting until the mandatory August 2017.

I like the move and glad it is finally no longer a rumor!

When did you hear this?

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Bitter much? I'm so glad you've enjoyed your time with the sport. Go off into retirement. Thanks for your contributions.

How am I bitter? I am merely pointing out what I perceive to be a significant flaw in the approach. Clubs will stay chase GS points at a young age to ensure that their teams are at the top. And they will continue to to favor the bigger players at that age for no other reason than to win at all costs. To me, that is one of the biggest flaws in the system, and that is not addressed by the brain surgeons in charge.

Club soccer is a dog eat dog world, my friend. Make no mistakes about it. And it's all about creating success that can be used to entice the next generation of players and parents into their fiefdoms. And success at the young ages means early bloomers. Sorry, it is the truth. At least in the current grade based model, that early bloomer impact was distributed more linear across any specific age group.

The relative age effect is constant across any 12 month period. It does not matter when that period starts or stops. To think that this change is going to have a profound effect on our NT success, is absurd.

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How am I bitter? I am merely pointing out what I perceive to be a significant flaw in the approach. Clubs will stay chase GS points at a young age to ensure that their teams are at the top. And they will continue to to favor the bigger players at that age for no other reason than to win at all costs. To me, that is one of the biggest flaws in the system, and that is not addressed by the brain surgeons in charge.

Club soccer is a dog eat dog world, my friend. Make no mistakes about it. And it's all about creating success that can be used to entice the next generation of players and parents into their fiefdoms. And success at the young ages means early bloomers. Sorry, it is the truth. At least in the current grade based model, that early bloomer impact was distributed more linear across any specific age group.

The relative age effect is constant across any 12 month period. It does not matter when that period starts or stops. To think that this change is going to have a profound effect on our NT success, is absurd.

"So glad I am almost done with this." Not bitter at all.

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"So glad I am almost done with this." Not bitter at all.

GPS already has a plan in place to gather GS points. All set.