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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And Boston University has a total enrollment of over 30,000. If you don't think that matters in terms of money that is spent, you are wrong.
    Funny how schools like Butler can figure out how to be competitive in D1 but HC can't. If HC doesn't want to pay the price to be competitive at D1 they should drop down to D3 where the playing field is more acclimated to what they apparently feel is their mission.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Funny how schools like Butler can figure out how to be competitive in D1 but HC can't. If HC doesn't want to pay the price to be competitive at D1 they should drop down to D3 where the playing field is more acclimated to what they apparently feel is their mission.
      Sure, BTNT, because you say so. Your illogic, as always, is impeccable.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Funny how schools like Butler can figure out how to be competitive in D1 but HC can't. If HC doesn't want to pay the price to be competitive at D1 they should drop down to D3 where the playing field is more acclimated to what they apparently feel is their mission.
        What's the opinion on the HC women's coach DG? Has he missed bad on a few recruiting classes? How is he at preparing players for opponents and on game day?

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          What's the opinion on the HC women's coach DG? Has he missed bad on a few recruiting classes? How is he at preparing players for opponents and on game day?
          How is it fair to comment on a coach who is not given the resources to do the job?

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            What's the opinion on the HC women's coach DG? Has he missed bad on a few recruiting classes? How is he at preparing players for opponents and on game day?
            If he spent half as much time preparing for games as you spend trolling around on this website, HC would be in the final four every year.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              And Boston University has a total enrollment of over 30,000. If you don't think that matters in terms of money that is spent, you are wrong.
              Aside from Hockey and Basketball, sports are a very low priority at BU. The vast majority of the school has no interest in the programs. Even in the hey day of Jack Parker you could get tickets the day of a game.

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                #52
                Cannot wait for Mack the Knife and Haley's Comet to bring the national championship trophy home to roost!

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Aside from Hockey and Basketball, sports are a very low priority at BU. The vast majority of the school has no interest in the programs. Even in the hey day of Jack Parker you could get tickets the day of a game.
                  I don't think it has anything to do with the interest of the students. That was never the point. It's simply a numbers game. More students equates to more income either directly through student activity fees or later with alumni donating to the college. How the money is spent is up to the administration unless of course a big donor stipulates how it will be spent. For example, the Linda Johnson Smith Soccer Stadium at HC. Word on the grapevine is Bryant is building a lacrosse facility with money from someone connected to Ebay.

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                    #54
                    In comparing BU to HC you've got to remember BU no longer fields a football team while HC still does. That frees up a lot of BU dollars.

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                      #55
                      Not sure HC has scholarships for football and with Title IX the women's soccer team would benefit, the men would be in trouble

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don't think it has anything to do with the interest of the students. That was never the point. It's simply a numbers game. More students equates to more income either directly through student activity fees or later with alumni donating to the college. How the money is spent is up to the administration unless of course a big donor stipulates how it will be spent. For example, the Linda Johnson Smith Soccer Stadium at HC. Word on the grapevine is Bryant is building a lacrosse facility with money from someone connected to Ebay.
                        Here are a couple of interesting sites that deal with the business side of college sports. The first is a basketball site that tracks what athletic budgets are and how much is getting spent on things like recruiting. Here are the BU and HC pages

                        http://www.bbstate.com/teams/BU
                        http://www.bbstate.com/teams/HC

                        Here is an article from another site specifically about the business of college sports that speaks to how colleges budget for recruiting by looking at the Notre Dame athletic budget

                        http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...ting-expenses/

                        The bottom line to all of this is college sports are now a business franchise for most colleges and while colleges do not necessarily have to have the biggest programs or spend the most money what does need to happen is these athletic programs need to be run professionally as the sophisticated businesses that they are. The wins and the losses will reflect how well run the athletic department and not necessarily how much money gets spent. That is why there are schools like Butler that can be relevant competing against much larger revenue programs.

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                          #57
                          The Big East Spending

                          Just went to that site. Here is an article from 2012 that shows the spending of some colleges spoken of in this thread.

                          Conference Recruitment Expense Series: Big East

                          http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...ries-big-east/

                          January 19, 2012 Alicia Jessop


                          Next up in BusinessofCollegeSports.com’s Conference Recruitment Expense Series is the Big East.

                          Today, recruitment expense data from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12 and Conference USA will be posted. Tomorrow, data for the MAC, Pac-12, SEC, Sun Belt, Mountain West and WAC will be posted. On Monday, a spreadsheet listing the top-50 spenders in terms of recruiting will be listed, sorted by total recruitment expense budget, amount spent per team on average and amount spent per player on average.

                          The data was obtained from the Department of Education. Although this data is not perfect, it is the only data available for both public and private institutions. Furthermore, the data provided is for the 2010-11 school year.

                          Schools Men’s Sports Recruiting Expenses Average Per Team Average Per Athlete
                          Cincinnati $392,288.00 $56,041.14 $1,421.33
                          Connecticut $515,666.00 $57,296.22 $1,292.40
                          DePaul $205,942.00 $41,188.40 $2,238.50
                          Georgetown $457,733.00 $45,773.30 $1,062.03
                          Louisville $786,574.00 $98,321.75 $2,604.55
                          Marquette $1,289,560.00 $257,912.00 $12,165.66
                          Notre Dame $1,612,608.00 $146,600.73 $3,724.27
                          Pittsburgh $530,723.00 $75,817.57 $1,922.91
                          Providence $280,057.00 $46,676.17 $1,728.75
                          Rutgers $495,170.00 $61,896.25 $1,607.69
                          Seton Hall $210,531.00 $35,088.50 $1,754.43
                          St. John’s $311,518.00 $44,502.57 $2,063.03
                          Syracuse $655,055.00 $93,579.29 $2,009.37
                          USF $423,030.00 $60,432.86 $1,784.94
                          Villanova $284,142.00 $31,571.33 $1,014.79
                          West Virginia $462,785.00 $77,130.83 $1,574.10

                          Schools Women’s Sports Recruiting Expenses Average Per Team Average Per Athlete
                          Cincinnati $211,107.00 $26,388.38 $1,122.91
                          Connecticut $285,414.00 $25,946.73 $875.50
                          DePaul $175,336.00 $29,222.67 $1,608.59
                          Georgetown $186,470.00 $15,539.17 $548.44
                          Louisville $342,071.00 $31,097.36 $1,217.33
                          Marquette $171,813.00 $34,362.60 $1,481.15
                          Notre Dame $457,708.00 $41,609.82 $1,583.76
                          Pittsburgh $287,452.00 $35,931.50 $1,489.39
                          Providence $198,830.00 $22,092.22 $1,092.47
                          Rutgers $223,673.00 $18,639.42 $745.58
                          Seton Hall $116,884.00 $14,610.50 $913.16
                          St. John’s $186,836.00 $23,354.50 $1,160.47
                          Syracuse $390,157.00 $35,468.82 $1,383.54
                          USF $174,281.00 $21,785.13 $850.15
                          Villanova $103,678.00 $9,425.27 $392.72
                          West Virginia $260,224.00 $32,528.00 $769.89

                          In 2010-11, Notre Dame had the greatest recruitment expenses for its men’s sports programs. The Fighting Irish spent $1,612,608.00 on recruiting student-athletes for its men’s teams in 2010-11.

                          However, Notre Dame did not have the highest average spent per men’s team in terms of recruiting expenses in 2010-11. Rather, Marquette spent the most, on average, per team in terms of recruiting expenses per men’s sports teams. Marquette averaged $257,912.00 per men’s sports team in recruiting expenses in 2010-11.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Not sure HC has scholarships for football and with Title IX the women's soccer team would benefit, the men would be in trouble
                            I don't know if they have scholarships either, but again, not the point. Scholarships really don't cost the school anything. Fielding 100 football players and 14 coaches does.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I don't know if they have scholarships either, but again, not the point. Scholarships really don't cost the school anything. Fielding 100 football players and 14 coaches does.
                              Did you read where Notre Dame ran a profit of $20 million and it actually uses the money to fund academic scholarships. So much for athletic programs costing anything when they are run correctly.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Did you read where Notre Dame ran a profit of $20 million and it actually uses the money to fund academic scholarships. So much for athletic programs costing anything when they are run correctly.
                                Are you really that ignorant???

                                http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...but_20_fb.html

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