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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Probably no one has a likely letter from an Ivy yet - they won't get that until admissions sees and passes judgement on the application, official transcripts and rec letters. No likely letters until the application is submitted...
    From the Ivy agreement:

    3. EARLY EVALUATION PROCEDURE

    a. As determined by each institution, admissions offices may choose to advise applicants of the probability of admission (e.g., likely, possible, unlikely). Institutions may issue likely letters only in writing, from the office of admission. Likely letters will have the effect of letters of admission, to be confirmed on the common notification date, subject to revocation only on the same terms as letters of admission.

    b. Within each institution’s overall admissions process, from October 1 through March 15 an admissions office may issue probabilistic communications, in writing, to applicants who are recruited student-athletes. (Such communications given by coaches, whether orally or in writing, do not constitute binding institutional commitments.) An applicant who receives one or more such written communications and who has made a decision to matriculate at one institution is encouraged (but not required) to notify all other institutions, and to withdraw all other applications, as promptly as possible.

    c. A coach may both inquire about a candidate's level of commitment to an Ivy institution, or interest in attending that Ivy institution, and encourage that interest. However, a candidate may not be required to make a matriculation commitment, to withdraw other applications, or to refrain from visiting another institution, as a condition for receiving a "likely" letter, or an estimate of financial aid eligibility, or a coach’s support in the admissions process. In addition, coaches may not request that candidates not share estimates of financial aid eligibility with other schools.

    d. An institution ordinarily may send a “likely” probabilistic communication letter to a candidate (whether or not the applicant is a recruited athlete) only if the applicant has submitted all of the materials which the institution requires in order to make an admissions decision. Infrequently and for compelling reasons, an institution may send such a “likely” communication that does not have “all” of those materials, as provided below, but only if: (i) the other materials in the applicant’s file at that time provide the institution with a clear basis for making a binding positive admissions decision about the applicant, consistent with the institution’s general standards for making such decisions; and (ii) the material in question is submitted before a final letter of admission is issued. In these circumstances, a “likely” communication may be based on a file that includes an official application, an official transcript, the SAT or ACT examination, one essay, and at least one recommendation from the student’s school (either teacher recommendation or administrator recommendation).

    e. An Ivy school may respond at any time beginning October 1 should a non-Ivy school offer admission to a recruited student-athlete with a reply date prior to the common Ivy notification date.

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      #17
      Until an Ivy recruit has a likely letter the commitment is not that strong.

      It is after October 1, so likely letters are available. Now is a time when some fallout starts happening. Suddenly, some coaches are not so quick to actually give the likely letter.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        How many of those actually have "likely letters"?

        More importantly, those numbers are only a fraction of the actual recruited class at each of the schools.
        I will save the list. I am willing to bet that it represents over 75% of the minutes played by freshmen next season.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I will save the list. I am willing to bet that it represents over 75% of the minutes played by freshmen next season.
          And they represent the "buyers" in your mind, correct?

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            And they represent the "buyers" in your mind, correct?
            I haven't involved myself in that debate.

            Consider the evidence. Most of the class of 2015 is committed everywhere in d1. All of the top 100 topdrawer players are committed. There ave very few good prospects left.

            Most of the players who will commit to an Ivy from here on in will, more than likely, be on the lower end of the bench. It isn't really a secret who the best players in the country are. Coaches have found them and most are locked up.

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              #21
              I take an Ivy "commit" with a grain of salt until there is a likely letter. Stuff happens. Many times. And the coaches always blame it on admissions. I know of several Ivy "commits" who were deferred at EA and had to scramble.

              Get that likely letter ASAP. If the coach hesitates about it, reconsider your options!

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Almost completely irrelevant for women's d1.

                By fall of Sr. year commitments have long since been made and there is very little opportunity left to change your mind.
                Get over yourself. You can comment on an I've rnight for this person. Before my daughter made any decisions, she spent a day at the campus, went to a game, and slept over. Then met with the coaching staff again, academic advisors, and many other folks. The school wants to make sure it is a good fit for both of you. All offers came after a visit like thus. In this type of visit she had to be sure she had money to pay for all of her own food and we paid for travel. On her official with the rest of her recruitment class, all expenses were paid and it was great to meet everyone. She spent a bit more time with the team. I think it is really important.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  False, with respect to D1 Ivies. Based on personal experience.
                  My daughter had an unofficial overnight at an Ivy. You can't make decisions otherwise.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    I haven't involved myself in that debate.

                    Consider the evidence. Most of the class of 2015 is committed everywhere in d1. All of the top 100 topdrawer players are committed. There ave very few good prospects left.

                    Most of the players who will commit to an Ivy from here on in will, more than likely, be on the lower end of the bench. It isn't really a secret who the best players in the country are. Coaches have found them and most are locked up.
                    I agree 100%. There may be a few outliers (there always are) but most D1 level recruits know exactly where they are going. In general, the "rules" of recruiting and how recruiting is actually done are two very different things. Official visits are icing on the cake, decisions have been made. This was not their original intent but that is what it has turned into.

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