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    #91
    Being able to discern how the distance covered by volleyballs doesn't matter, but the flight of (some) soccer balls does.

    That's a special talent...And feels really scientific too!

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So you've concluded that there's "...no concussion crisis in non-competitive pre-HS soccer"? Based on what data? Is it the "competitive," or the "HS" that causes the concussions? Is it headers or collisions? Is it rougher play, due to the wider range of skills on the field at the same time? So, there are no concussions prior to HS, even though kids are younger and less developed?

      You are clueless, and throw the moon bat charge around to mask how little you understand cause, effect and the present data on the subject. How many times have you been concussed?
      Two choices here. Change the rules to appease a vocal but very small minority who feel the most popular game in the world is inherently dangerous as currently constituted despite at best flimsy evidence or........simply do not play.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

        What you want to argue is political correctness. I'm not about to get in that argument just to appease you.
        I want nothing of the sort. Could care less about so called PC.

        I want only to point out that you are making wild guesses based on your interpretation of unrelated scientific research. Do the researchers at Iowa suggest women should avoid things like soccer due to their lack of effective spatial awareness? No, of course they don't.

        You, on the other hand, want to suggest that women are twice as succeptiple to concussions in soccer due to their limit abilities in spatial awareness. Why not keep them out of the game for their own safety then?

        If you can't see the danger in people making wild generalizations and extrapolations based on research never intended to look at such issues then I don't know what to tell you.

        Like another poster suggested, hope your daughters enjoy their burkas. Does it help them get through the day safely if you make them walk very slowly and not look at too many moving things at once?

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Two choices here. Change the rules to appease a vocal but very small minority who feel the most popular game in the world is inherently dangerous as currently constituted despite at best flimsy evidence or........simply do not play.
          Or they could create a competing "no heading allowed" product. I'd love too see that actually just see the coaches that would embrace it and the parents who would vote with their feet. I'm guessing the competition would be over quickly and we would be left with play or don't.

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            #95
            A no head style is what many South American countries in essence play. It is very attractive and popular. And since the practices stress possession and passing rather than set pieces players don't accumulate head trauma as often as their North American and European counterparts.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              A no head style is what many South American countries in essence play. It is very attractive and popular. And since the practices stress possession and passing rather than set pieces players don't accumulate head trauma as often as their North American and European counterparts.
              Yeah, North America, so many ulittles heading, it's just scary needs to be stopped.

              Trying to imagine what this "no head style" would look like...

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sounds like there should be no women pilots. Or surgeons. Or CAD operators. Or engineers. I guess some of those Middle Eastern cultures aren't so backward after all. Are you putting your daughter in a burka yet?
                Or people who can't read apparently, like yourself.

                Cut the PC crap and have someone who can read explain the posts to you.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  I want nothing of the sort. Could care less about so called PC.

                  I want only to point out that you are making wild guesses based on your interpretation of unrelated scientific research. Do the researchers at Iowa suggest women should avoid things like soccer due to their lack of effective spatial awareness? No, of course they don't.

                  You, on the other hand, want to suggest that women are twice as succeptiple to concussions in soccer due to their limit abilities in spatial awareness. Why not keep them out of the game for their own safety then?

                  If you can't see the danger in people making wild generalizations and extrapolations based on research never intended to look at such issues then I don't know what to tell you.

                  Like another poster suggested, hope your daughters enjoy their burkas. Does it help them get through the day safely if you make them walk very slowly and not look at too many moving things at once?
                  Another who apparently has difficulty with reading comprehension. Is that you Perspective???

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                    #99
                    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-...ussion-crisis/

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-...ussion-crisis/

                      But now a growing number of doctors are saying we've gone too far. Medical science doesn't justify parents' fears about concussions in youth sports.

                      "There's really no good evidence to suggest that a child, after a single concussion, is at any significant risk for long term effects," NYU Langone Medical Center's Director of Neurophysiology Dr. William Barr said.

                      In fact, doctors say the risk to kids from inactivity is greater than the danger of harm from concussions.

                      "If somebody says 'I like playing soccer, but my mother and father are worried that I am going to get a concussion so therefore I'm going to chose not to play soccer,' -- that is a tragedy," Dr. Marc Difazio, child neurologist at the Children's National Medical Center said.
                      Pretty soon someone will coin the phrase "Concussion Deniers" (a sure sign the argument being made has run off the rails of logic and reason).

                      Now let's get back to talking about banning heading before HS, because if we can stop one concussion, it's worth it.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Another who apparently has difficulty with reading comprehension. Is that you Perspective???
                        Yeah, go ahead and defend your position by claiming others can't understand the big words and concepts you use.

                        1) You claim women are more susceptible to concussions in soccer because they are less capable of judging three dimensional objects than men -- in other words, they judge head balls less capably than men and are likely to hurt themselves as a result.

                        2) You offer up scientific articles suggesting that the difference between men and women in terms of three dimensional interpretation is possibly due to brain structure and hormonal differences.

                        3) There is NO practical determination in any of the studies you quote that suggest women are incapable of judging or dealing with moving objects adequately.

                        4) You yourself decided that that research means women are likely to hurt themselves because they can't head the ball properly due to anatomical shortcomings.

                        5) When people call you on this -- and question why women would be able to capably play other sports that require spatial relations/three dimensional judgement (such as tennis, softball, sailing, ice skiing, volleyball, field hockey, lacrosse, etc., etc., etc.,) -- you default to the "PC" or "you're reading comprehension challenged" argument.

                        I actually comprehend this situation quite well. Thank God I'm a man though. At least I'll be able to effectively navigate those pesky revolving doors at the local library -- even if I am too dumb to understand what those things on the shelves with big words are.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Yeah, go ahead and defend your position by claiming others can't understand the big words and concepts you use.

                          1) You claim women are more susceptible to concussions in soccer because they are less capable of judging three dimensional objects than men -- in other words, they judge head balls less capably than men and are likely to hurt themselves as a result.

                          2) You offer up scientific articles suggesting that the difference between men and women in terms of three dimensional interpretation is possibly due to brain structure and hormonal differences.

                          3) There is NO practical determination in any of the studies you quote that suggest women are incapable of judging or dealing with moving objects adequately.

                          4) You yourself decided that that research means women are likely to hurt themselves because they can't head the ball properly due to anatomical shortcomings.

                          5) When people call you on this -- and question why women would be able to capably play other sports that require spatial relations/three dimensional judgement (such as tennis, softball, sailing, ice skiing, volleyball, field hockey, lacrosse, etc., etc., etc.,) -- you default to the "PC" or "you're reading comprehension challenged" argument.

                          I actually comprehend this situation quite well. Thank God I'm a man though. At least I'll be able to effectively navigate those pesky revolving doors at the local library -- even if I am too dumb to understand what those things on the shelves with big words are.
                          ^ Checkmate.

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                            If anyone is looking for a concussion "cause" here is your opportunity.

                            http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/prep-r...142707585.html

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                              concussions from soccer information

                              Lots of going back and forth here.

                              There's lots of soccer related concussions here: http://www.soccerconcussion.com/twee...e-concussions/

                              Other articles citing research on headers, menstrual cycles (yes, gaining traction), etc.

                              Not sure how accurate but lots of research it seems.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Lots of going back and forth here.

                                There's lots of soccer related concussions here: http://www.soccerconcussion.com/twee...e-concussions/

                                Other articles citing research on headers, menstrual cycles (yes, gaining traction), etc.

                                Not sure how accurate but lots of research it seems.
                                HS football players are literally dying from head injuries and nothing is being done about changing football rules. Do we really think that anything will change regarding soccer? Should it change? I really do not think concussions are a new thing at all. I do think players, coaches, parents and AT's are much more vigilant than they used to be.

                                Any sport where there is contact or a risk of falling, carries the risk of concussions. The only HS sport where I can see a very low to no risk is Golf and or Swimming (not diving).

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