Can someone please explain to my way MIAA won't have a three man ref system in the regular season? Just crazy as it is not playing the game how it should be played. No offense to refs, but I have seen some bad games and I'm a firm beleiver it is due to the refs being out of postion to cover sidelines. Not going to get into good ref verse bad. Some great ones out there and some truly awful ones. I think their job would be much easier if the had ctr refs. Games would be cleaner and less nut job parents would be screaming at the refs. No reason Div. 1 schools should not be able to afford a ctr ref. Is it striclty up to the schools or is this a MIAA thing? Probably the later.
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Follow the money. Never gonna happen. HS soccer is an afterthought.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post -
I think it is a man power issue; to have the three person system you need to have 50 % more refs than you currently use. For afternoon games that may be tough. The other issue is would I be willing to just be a AR for one game versus making full rate as one of two refsOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Its not just the money but the numbers---Much easier to get 2------Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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It is not so much the money as it is the Availability - just not enough ref to go around for the amount of games being played in a day.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Simple solution is to move more of the games to later in the day and play more on the weekends. Money is an issue. AD's do not care about soccer, it takes more effort to schedule 3 vs. 2.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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If you look at how many HS games there are I am surprised they get enough refs as there is.Comment
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Let's start by fixing a couple of other rules to get HS soccer up to date. One, 3 points in the standings for a win, not 2. Second, no timeouts.
On the ref issue, there may even be the double standard that 3 refs are used in MIAA tournament, but only if you advance far enough.Comment
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The refereeing is absolutely horrible. But, you can't blame the refs. They are setup to fail. There is no way the can effectively do their job with only two refs in the game. Want to blame HS soccer for the injuries of your precious club players? I would bet that if these games were kept more under control, a good percentage of injuries would be gone. I would also bet that you would see higher quality games if the games were called properly and players weren't aggravated by crappy calls. They could just focus on playing rather than all of the drama associated with bad refereeing.Comment
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According to the MIAA Handbook, refs for most sports make $78 per game. The highest paid is $85 for 4 football refs. I really don't think it is the money. Assuming that you are responsible to pay for the refs of your home games only, $780 is really not a big deal. That is not even 3 student athletic fees. I guess the problem could be availability of refs. I have no idea how many people are qualified to ref HS games. The level of qualification doesn't seem too high though.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
I particularly liked this rule:
"90.12 - It is recommended that officials be examined annually by a physician as to
their fitness to officiate."
Really? It is not only frustrating to have 2 refs, but when 1 of them can barely walk, that is even more frustrating.Comment
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It is kind of sad that a U12 travel game has more refs than a HS game, but it isn't at all surprising if they can't get enough HS refs. It's a part time gig for adults, who are more likely to be working their fulltime job at 4:00 in the afternoon (unless they are like the retired, half-blind ref we had the other day who couldn't walk more than ten yards without getting winded). Many of the refs that cover younger kids on the weekend are high school kids that obviously can't cover HS games.Comment
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Can someone answer this question for me -- how are the refs assigned to the varsity and junior varsity HS games? Meaning, is there some sort of "seniority" given to older/more experienced refs, and more pay, for the varsity games? Because I can't believe how often I see younger, more physically fit and harder working referees at junior varsity games who should be doing varsity, and vice versa, there are some guys doing varsity who have no business being there.
Up and coming middle-aged and experienced refs should get the varsity games and the older refs who can't keep moving, can't see, should be getting junior varsity and freshmen games. Just because your'e older doesn't mean you should be getting paid more.Comment
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Thanks, I figured it was something like that. Didn't know the exact numbers. So that's sort of half the issue as I see it. The other half is what appears to be tenure dictating who gets $78 instead of $56, rather than merit.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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