I've been following this site off and on for more than 6 years. Never seen a single negative comment about the Boys commitment lists.
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All the negative comments on this site come from the same small group of people who take turns bashing anything the other's club does that might be remotely considered positive. These morons happen to be girl's parents.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post -
You couldn't possibly have been reading this forum that long and not read negative comments directed to male commitments.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You think that's a reach? OK, let's simplify. What about in the last 12-18 months? Can you produce one?Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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You don't have to go too far back to find an example. Here's one from 12 hours ago on the DAP tryouts thread:Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
"have you seen the college commitment list for the Revs lately? With one or two exceptions, not impressive at all "Comment
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Touche. You won't find many and we can wonder where that came from. And that's not a criticism of posting commitment lists. The point still holds.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
The corollary for the Boys would be the energy around the new DAP rule about HS soccer.Comment
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Parents? Besides the competitive mouthpiece of a certain club, I think it's mostly rival club coaches / administrators.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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No, it's mostly parents who finally can't take it any more and snap back. Most of those coaches are working pretty hard and probably exhausted at the end of the day. Contrary to what most of us probably believe, a few of them might like to think about and do something besides soccer once in a while. They don't have all day to hang out on TS and monitor every post that pops up.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Exactly. There is catty, snarky stuff on the Boys side too. Just look at the U11 threads. But I'll stand by the comment that the actual posting of commitment lists hasn't been criticized.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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If you're correct, that's pretty sick. Who is anyone to judge where someone else's kid decides to further their education. That's f'd up. No one, save for one or two a year is going pro when it's all said and done.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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It is crazy isn't it? Players have their own private reasons for why they are attending a certain school. It's no one's business but their own and shouldn't be criticized for their choices. The high school drop out rate is 7% in this country (with much higher rates for minorities) and only 66% of high school grads attend college.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/hsgec.nr0.htmComment
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Nobody said anything about criticizing anyone's choices. The points made were that no one every criticizes the posting of Boys commitment lists, and that the bulk of comments about Girls commitments come from parents and not coaches.Comment
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Sir you are very naïve if you believe this is all just parents. Whether they are listed on the various websites as such or not, almost every single major club and league has a director of communication and to think that role in this day and age is not actively using a medium like Talking-Soccer to get their messages across simply shows your lack of business sophistication.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
The reason that you do not have as much bashing going back and forth on the boys side is there is a much clearer hierarchy of leagues and clubs on that side than there is on the girls side. Simply put, the Revs are not fighting tooth and nail for talent like the top girls clubs are. If the Revs want a player all they basically have to say is "come play at the clear highest level for free" and they generally will get the player.
On the girls side the club's first have to convince the market where the league they play in fits in completely hypothetical hierarchy that has been created and then they have to convince each individual parent that the specific coach and team will meet their player's needs. It is all of this "convincing" that we all read here on TS.
There are two reasons why you don't read as much bashing of commitments on the boys side:
1) because the boys clubs are not dangling commitments out there like the girls clubs do to sell roster spots.
2) the bulk of the boys commit much later than the girls do so they are much closer to the end of their club soccer days where most parents realize it doesn't matter much any longer.Comment
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1) Even assuming that clubs have a "director of communications" (far from proven), you are pretty warped to believe that a person in that role would be authorized (or constituted) to engage in communications at the cesspool level that we see on TS. That's not how professionals in formal positions operate.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
2) Is said it is mostly parents. Contrary to popular belief here, coaches and DOCs are not merely appendages of our self-absorbed fantasies, perceived insults, and ego problems. They have their own lives, and after long hours providing a service they most likely are not spending much of their free time worrying about what the imbecile parents are doing on TS.
3) The only difference between boys and girls commitments is that girls tend to occur earlier. Don't know what "dangled" means. A posted list is a posted list. Nothing more, nothing less. A Boys list has been posted here for at least a handful of years with virtually no controversry or bickering at all.
4) There is a heirarchy on the Girls side almost as clear-cut as the Boys. The Revs are "free," which is a difference, but you can't argue that the NEFC EK boys teams and Blazers (and perhaps MPS/GPS) try to present themselves as reasonable alternatives to DAP just as NEFC does with ECNL.Comment
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Here is one;
" A lot of these boys will not ever play a game for the schools they say they are committed to"Comment
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