End of Club soccer as we know it in New England

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Not really because the assumption that the Stars would automatically get the spot is probably short sighted. NEFC and MPS are both larger and relatively speaking producing equal if not greater results at this point. They would actually warrant equal if not greater consideration.

Unlike the ECNL, a girls DAP would have

-combined age groups
-a 6 day a week training program 10 months out of the year
-no requirement to travel to showcases

You made a funny.

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Not really because the assumption that the Stars would automatically get the spot is probably short sighted. NEFC and MPS are both larger and relatively speaking producing equal if not greater results at this point. They would actually warrant equal if not greater consideration.

Unlike the ECNL, a girls DAP would have

-combined age groups
-a 6 day a week training program 10 months out of the year
-no requirement to travel to showcases

You are half right. NEFC and MPS are larger.

That has absolutely zero correlation with inclusion in DAP.

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You are half right. NEFC and MPS are larger.

That has absolutely zero correlation with inclusion in DAP.

Really, why you actually need to make this point? Pretty pathetic. We are talking hypotheticals and you have to ram home why the Stars would probably get the spot. As if you even have any insight at all into how such a decision would be made. What a turkey.

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Really, why you actually need to make this point? Pretty pathetic. We are talking hypotheticals and you have to ram home why the Stars would probably get the spot. As if you even have any insight at all into how such a decision would be made. What a turkey.

Welcome to the Stars hype machine. It never stops!

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Really, why you actually need to make this point? Pretty pathetic. We are talking hypotheticals and you have to ram home why the Stars would probably get the spot. As if you even have any insight at all into how such a decision would be made. What a turkey.

What was this?

"NEFC and MPS are both larger and relatively speaking producing equal if not greater results at this point. They would actually warrant equal if not greater consideration."

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What was this?

"NEFC and MPS are both larger and relatively speaking producing equal if not greater results at this point. They would actually warrant equal if not greater consideration."

An answer to your stupid initial post assuming that the Stars would get the spot.

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An answer to your stupid initial post assuming that the Stars would get the spot.

I don't see that post - could you quote it for me?

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I don't see that post - could you quote it for me?

LOL. Always knew you were blind!

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There really are two element involved in this discussion. The pro participation element and the pro development element. People who want to see a lot of kids just playing soccer for whatever reason they deem want to see things as all inclusive as possible but that really works cross purpose to people who have kids playing soccer with a purpose in mind. One wants to broaden the herd, while the other wants to thin it. The thing is to say that one group is right over the other would be wrong because they are both entitled to their goals. The real issue is how to incorporate both goals into a system. The real problem with the whole issue is we have basically abandoned any attempt to level based upon skill and that is swinging the pendulum towards things being super inclusionary. That is where the dumbing things down comments come from because those super inclusionary themes do negatively impact the super motivated players because it makes it harder for them to stand out. That is why we always end up talking about the top end players because their needs are not really being met.

I agree that promo-relegation is not the be all end all but the present "multi-path" scenario on the girls side really just doesn't work for all the reasons previously discussed. I think the big difference between the boys and girls sides is DAP. Even though DAP is not perfect, it does have an awful lot of things that a serious player wants. I think that if US Soccer put together a DAP on the girls side it would give those top end players a place to shoot for and that would go a long way towards settling down a lot of the discord on the girls side.

You sure are active today.

The top players aren't getting their needs met? Talk about turkeys. Why don't the rest of us just serve you turkey dinner with all the trimmings and watch you eat.

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Really, why you actually need to make this point? Pretty pathetic. We are talking hypotheticals and you have to ram home why the Stars would probably get the spot. As if you even have any insight at all into how such a decision would be made. What a turkey.

Great point. Only you should be allowed to speak and then you can just continue to create and control every single discussion. Yep, that works.

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Great point. Only you should be allowed to speak and then you can just continue to create and control every single discussion. Yep, that works.

Good one Perspective. Can you give me a hint how long you are going to be taking over the forum? I really need to take a dump and I know as long as you are here nobody else will get a word in edge wise.

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LOL. Always knew you were blind!

"look like the ECNL" ??

we were talking about formats, not teams. There was nothing to do with the Stars there. You are seeing ghosts.

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Well I see those two are at again. At least with P not signing in from his "vacation" he won't be able to go full tilt nutty with his 5 paragraph rants with multiple attacking quotes. Or maybe he can't help himself, we'll see and maybe those posts are coming.

Ok, seriously can't we for once keep on topic and debate the topics and ideas being brought up, instead of just talking about who is bringing them up???

Now as for promotion/relegation or no promotion/relegation ... I could probably be swayed either way. But I know I would really prefer a singular line of league hierarchy for all teams instead of the current duplication we have all over the place.

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Good one Perspective. Can you give me a hint how long you are going to be taking over the forum? I really need to take a dump and I know as long as you are here nobody else will get a word in edge wise.

Wrong again. But you don't seem to have any trouble at all getting your words in. Like diarrhea at the mouth over as many threads as possible. Yes, please take your dumps somewhere other than TS.

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Well I see those two are at again. At least with P not signing in from his "vacation" he won't be able to go full tilt nutty with his 5 paragraph rants with multiple attacking quotes. Or maybe he can't help himself, we'll see and maybe those posts are coming.

Ok, seriously can't we for once keep on topic and debate the topics and ideas being brought up, instead of just talking about who is bringing them up???

So remarkably clever. How could the rest of us possibly keep up?