Private soccer coaching in CT -- Is MA next?

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Define "modest". For some, D1 is modest

Very, very few consider d1 modest.

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our club is the opposite. only works technical skills, 1v1 3v3. never finishing. in fact, that is good reason to hire a personal coach unless the parent has the time and access to a field and goal.

Our club offers a striker clinic which focuses on the different ways a striker can affect the match. The coach works intensively on off the ball runs to spread the defense, diagonal runs that are easier for the striker to handle, and finishing technique. I've watched a few sessions and had no idea how many ways a striker can change a game.

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There are a few organizations that specialize in 1 on 1 training in Mass that aren't run through club teams. We've used www.1on1soccer.com before and found it to be very beneficial.

Seconded.

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Very, very few consider d1 modest.

it was not the point

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it was not the point

And it should be...?

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The point is why would you think to spend serious money on private training if you are not going to use the skill you are developing in a serious way.. ie chasing a scholarship? Seems rather indulgent to start paying people without having any particular goal in mind. Why not spend your money on a golf pro instead. At least your kid can make money on a golf course and play pretty much the rest of your life.

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The point is why would you think to spend serious money on private training if you are not going to use the skill you are developing in a serious way.. ie chasing a scholarship? Seems rather indulgent to start paying people without having any particular goal in mind. Why not spend your money on a golf pro instead. At least your kid can make money on a golf course and play pretty much the rest of your life.

Different players have different goals; some may be long-term other short-term. This may be something as simple trying to make your town travel team, HS varsity team or preparing yourself for club tryouts for the first time. On the other end of the scale you may be chasing a D1 college scholarship or have serious ambitions of making it Pro.

One factor that hasn't been mentioned is the confidence and self-esteem that can be garnered from private sessions. My daughter has taken part in regular 1 : 1 sessions over the past year and her confidence on and off the field has sky rocketed as a result.

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Get some coaches in the Boston area

Yes definitely get some in the Boston area! Any idea where the kids would train?

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Get some coaches in the Boston area

No I want only Messy.

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No I want only Messy.

Messy is too busy cleaning his room.
Messi, however, you could not afford.

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If I had not read your posts before, I would have never believed that this comes from professional coach:




"Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14

"Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me." Isaiah 43:10

What is your name? Gerardo Martino? Jurgen Klinsmann?
Guess what is the first thing my son does when he opens his eyes every morning? He is looking for the ball! At some point three practices a week simply stopped being enough. He needed more.... Solution???? Right! Private coaching. His club coach is aware and supportive. And guess what? He( the kid) still spends 20-30 min with the ball almost every morning before school. I am not questioning how good you are as a coach, or your level of passion and philanthropy, sometimes you just can not satisfy everyone hunger (or why even try if you're a staff coach?). I bet people can give you dozen of different reasons for private training
I wonder if one of your players approached you and asked you as a favor to spend some of your precious time to work on his shooting or 1v1 etc, what would you say? would you help him? If yes, would you do it for free? On a long term basis?
What problem do you see if he asks another coach? Personal insult? Ultimate betrayal of God’s Will?
Here is a topic for critical thinking: Why people look for private math tutoring? or even better one:

should one trust the school teacher and curriculum if they want their child to be taught a speed reading? Memorization techniques?

Oh……my……G__!

You do realize that both quotes of mine you reproduced were in reference to technical training (see "better" in quotes and the context of the thread up to that point)? And yes, I will say it again, if a coach cannot impart technical concepts, then yes, that coach should not be coaching at the club level. My posts had nothing to do with ME as a coach other than to suggest if I can’t coach technique (at a minimum) I shouldn’t be coaching, so those claims of being almighty are unfounded.

Anyway...what your son is doing on his own is exactly the stuff I have been stressing (including on TS) forever. THAT is how one really takes it to the next level on the technical side. Where we seem to disagree is that I feel anyone who is coaching club (and I did say not just me, so you can relax about that) should be able to teach the technical aspect of the game as well as any other “coach”. Believe it or not, it is actually not rocket science. How so? Do I need to explain how simple the mechanics behind the technical side of soccer are? Here is a hint, your analogy to math is utterly, ridiculously off base.

Re your specific questions:

“I wonder if one of your players approached you and asked you as a favor to spend some of your precious time to work on his shooting or 1v1 etc, what would you say? would you help him? If yes, would you do it for free? On a long term basis?”

I’d say “let’s go” in a heartbeat. The overwhelming majority of them don’t because we work on technique during training (every practice and much more so at the younger ages, but always). Still, there have been isolated cases, usually at the U11/U12 age, when I voluntarily stayed late at the field or even went to the homes of players to spend extra time with them on technical matters. I showed them things they could do, how to do it, and gave them homework. Staying late or meeting at a field for extra help is an after-thought…I would welcome it and would never ever consider charging for it. If a player wants to get better, then I’m all for it. I just don’t believe he should have to pay for that, and I—as a club coach—should by definition be able to provide what they need in terms of “after class” technical tutoring.

“On a long term basis?”

It should never even be the case (unless, of course, one is looking to milk the cow). Again, the theory behind the technical component of soccer is very simple; it is the execution that takes infinite time. If one is not getting it after we demonstrate it, explain it, and practice it—over and over and over—in team training throughout u-little and then on top of that in individual after-hours sessions, then…really, are we dealing with a soccer player??? The difference is what the player puts into it. Each player—and there weren’t more than 3-4 who—who I ever had to spend a repeated extra time with were not fully committed. They went through the motions in practice, paid lip service to the homework and in each case played multiple sports where soccer was not the priority. No surprise there. They were not interested in being soccer players, or putting the effort needed into it, to begin with, and, sure enough were out of the club scene altogether in due time.

“What problem do you see if he asks another coach? Personal insult? Ultimate betrayal of God’s Will?”

None of the above whatsoever. I actually encourage all my players to play as much soccer as they can. For their high school, for their town team, for ODP, for Districts, whatever. If money and time has value, it is paying for 1-on-1 training that I feel is unnecessary, and that has nothing to do with me being insulted. Go ahead, sign up for it, it won’t bother me, but one is wasting their money (and time) in light of the alternatives that are or can be just as effective.

[By the way, if by referring to me as being a professional, it is based on the definition that entails one being paid for his services as coach, then—sorry to disappoint—I do not qualify, as I volunteer and do not accept compensation].

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Oh……my……G__!

You do realize that both quotes of mine you reproduced were in reference to technical training (see "better" in quotes and the context of the thread up to that point)? And yes, I will say it again, if a coach cannot impart technical concepts, then yes, that coach should not be coaching at the club level. My posts had nothing to do with ME as a coach other than to suggest if I can’t coach technique (at a minimum) I shouldn’t be coaching, so those claims of being almighty are unfounded.

Anyway...what your son is doing on his own is exactly the stuff I have been stressing (including on TS) forever. THAT is how one really takes it to the next level on the technical side. Where we seem to disagree is that I feel anyone who is coaching club (and I did say not just me, so you can relax about that) should be able to teach the technical aspect of the game as well as any other “coach”. Believe it or not, it is actually not rocket science. How so? Do I need to explain how simple the mechanics behind the technical side of soccer are? Here is a hint, your analogy to math is utterly, ridiculously off base.

Re your specific questions:

“I wonder if one of your players approached you and asked you as a favor to spend some of your precious time to work on his shooting or 1v1 etc, what would you say? would you help him? If yes, would you do it for free? On a long term basis?”

I’d say “let’s go” in a heartbeat. The overwhelming majority of them don’t because we work on technique during training (every practice and much more so at the younger ages, but always). Still, there have been isolated cases, usually at the U11/U12 age, when I voluntarily stayed late at the field or even went to the homes of players to spend extra time with them on technical matters. I showed them things they could do, how to do it, and gave them homework. Staying late or meeting at a field for extra help is an after-thought…I would welcome it and would never ever consider charging for it. If a player wants to get better, then I’m all for it. I just don’t believe he should have to pay for that, and I—as a club coach—should by definition be able to provide what they need in terms of “after class” technical tutoring.

“On a long term basis?”

It should never even be the case (unless, of course, one is looking to milk the cow). Again, the theory behind the technical component of soccer is very simple; it is the execution that takes infinite time. If one is not getting it after we demonstrate it, explain it, and practice it—over and over and over—in team training throughout u-little and then on top of that in individual after-hours sessions, then…really, are we dealing with a soccer player??? The difference is what the player puts into it. Each player—and there weren’t more than 3-4 who—who I ever had to spend a repeated extra time with were not fully committed. They went through the motions in practice, paid lip service to the homework and in each case played multiple sports where soccer was not the priority. No surprise there. They were not interested in being soccer players, or putting the effort needed into it, to begin with, and, sure enough were out of the club scene altogether in due time.

“What problem do you see if he asks another coach? Personal insult? Ultimate betrayal of God’s Will?”

None of the above whatsoever. I actually encourage all my players to play as much soccer as they can. For their high school, for their town team, for ODP, for Districts, whatever. If money and time has value, it is paying for 1-on-1 training that I feel is unnecessary, and that has nothing to do with me being insulted. Go ahead, sign up for it, it won’t bother me, but one is wasting their money (and time) in light of the alternatives that are or can be just as effective.

[By the way, if by referring to me as being a professional, it is based on the definition that entails one being paid for his services as coach, then—sorry to disappoint—I do not qualify, as I volunteer and do not accept compensation].

Sound a little bitter to me...sorry you do not have any private clients.

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Just a guess but it sounds like you might be at the other end of the spectrum. There should be something like a truth in lending statement when it comes to statements made here on TS. Much in the same way they do on TV when a sponsor acknowledges that actors are being compensated for what they are saying. It helps puts the motivation behind the actor's statements into the proper context.

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Sound a little bitter to me...sorry you do not have any private clients.

You want to spend your money. Give me a call, I'll charge you $60 per hour and we'll do the same things I do for free with my team and players. You can then spend time watching your kid practice these indivual techniques at home, which as Forza Azzurri correctly says, it should all take place. If your child is not willing to do the simple things necessary to get better by him/her self, by all means, pursue the dream financially with a private coach. Let me know your plans for SATs, college and all the rest. There are even life coaches available to help you.

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You want to spend your money. Give me a call, I'll charge you $60 per hour and we'll do the same things I do for free with my team and players. You can then spend time watching your kid practice these indivual techniques at home, which as Forza Azzurri correctly says, it should all take place. If your child is not willing to do the simple things necessary to get better by him/her self, by all means, pursue the dream financially with a private coach. Let me know your plans for SATs, college and all the rest. There are even life coaches available to help you.

I keep hearing about practicing at home, hasn't everyone's yard been covered in snow the past few months?