Weymouth boys u14 fav for MTOC

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Who are the female soccer players walking away from WHS soccer because of the coaching? You realize the varsity assistant is a coach with WUFC so by criticizing that coaching staff you are also proving how bad your staff is.

Where can I find a list of WUFC coaches?

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Who are the female soccer players walking away from WHS soccer because of the coaching?

Lots of incoming girls and current JV players considering their options for next season. Club soccer may prove the best option.

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Where can I find a list of WUFC coaches?

You can't. A public list is not available. However they do have some coaches from the big clubs coaching a few of their teams.

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Who is the coach with anger management issues? FM? If you are speaking about the boys side I imagine you would be speaking of DW. My kids have played for him and if you know him at all you know since he had a child he is an entirely different person who is very passionate about what he does, but the "angry" side is no longer evident. His players all love playing for him and I have a pretty food feel for it. He expects alot from them, but shouldn't all coaches expect alot from their players?

DW is no different and many kids don't enjoy playing for him. Good try though.

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The Weymouth kids who would make 2nd/3rd level teams should stay and play in Weymouth. The kids who can make top teams at PTUSA, Coastal, etc. should in fact leave and play for them, but they are told to stay because WUFC can offer the same thing. The u12 team you speak of lost to a team this fall by 6 goals that Scorpions beat. The best players from that Weymouth team should be playing somewhere else. Not necessarily at Scorpions, but somewhere.

At least they have brought in the great MR to save the program. Fired from his last few jobs and sure to be fired by CSU at some point when they get wind of his "plan".

Sounds like someone got their feelings hurt by this MR guy.

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Town clubs scare the hell out of traditional clubs. They divert the greatest source of income away from the traditional club pipeline. Every team of 10 U-littles a club can manufacture brings in roughly $10,000 to the bottom line. At U11 it goes to $15,000. If parents delay enrolling their children in a traditional club until U13 that subtracts from vital head count and revenue.

The ironic part is the few demonstrable cases of development from U-little through high school that clubs can point to. The kids are interchangeable. It's easier to identify and poach existing talent than it is to develop it internally. Clubs want to reap the benefits of town soccer development, just earlier, because they need the money. Most of the better players were developing nicely in a town league until a club representative approached them. The club may apply the final polish, but the town did all the heavy lifting.

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Town clubs scare the hell out of traditional clubs. They divert the greatest source of income away from the traditional club pipeline. Every team of 10 U-littles a club can manufacture brings in roughly $10,000 to the bottom line. At U11 it goes to $15,000. If parents delay enrolling their children in a traditional club until U13 that subtracts from vital head count and revenue.

The ironic part is the few demonstrable cases of development from U-little through high school that clubs can point to. The kids are interchangeable. It's easier to identify and poach existing talent than it is to develop it internally. Clubs want to reap the benefits of town soccer development, just earlier, because they need the money. Most of the better players were developing nicely in a town league until a club representative approached them. The club may apply the final polish, but the town did all the heavy lifting.

For a player to truly improve, they have to be consistently challenged, and unfortunately, they are not going to get that playing just town. And town politics play a large role in opportunity as well. I know a Globe Scholastic who was never on the town's "A" team. Parents came from the wrong side of the track, so to speak.

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Town clubs scare the hell out of traditional clubs. They divert the greatest source of income away from the traditional club pipeline. Every team of 10 U-littles a club can manufacture brings in roughly $10,000 to the bottom line. At U11 it goes to $15,000. If parents delay enrolling their children in a traditional club until U13 that subtracts from vital head count and revenue.

The ironic part is the few demonstrable cases of development from U-little through high school that clubs can point to. The kids are interchangeable. It's easier to identify and poach existing talent than it is to develop it internally. Clubs want to reap the benefits of town soccer development, just earlier, because they need the money. Most of the better players were developing nicely in a town league until a club representative approached them. The club may apply the final polish, but the town did all the heavy lifting.

Typical town team over-sell. I'll grant that there are some terrific coaches sprinkled around various town programs, but they are by far the minority. The biggest issue with most town programs from U10 on is the competition. A really strong town program might have 3-4 kids in an age group with legitimate talent. Who do they practice against and play against that will force them to grow? For the best players, playing town instead of club is a big mistake past age 10. Playing both for a year or two is fine, but top talent needs to train and play against top talent.

The "heavy lifting" part is particularly funny. My kids played both town and club up to U12. The heavy lifting was done by the club and in the backyard and basement, and the town team benefited by having very skilled players to lean on. The non-club players on the town team would touch a ball 2-3x per week in the fall or spring, for a total of 2 hours, if that. The parents raved about how "dominant" the town team was and how well they'd been developed, but the coaching and development was all done elsewhere. All the town did was provide some extra playing time, a uniform, and a couple of pizza & cupcake parties.

Clubs poach good athletes and give them training and guidance to make them into soccer players. Most often, the big clubs poach good players from smaller clubs, when the kids need better competition or exposure. Very rarely are the clubs getting a highly skilled player from a town program who can immediately make an impact. It happens, but it's not the norm.

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Typical town team over-sell. I'll grant that there are some terrific coaches sprinkled around various town programs, but they are by far the minority. The biggest issue with most town programs from U10 on is the competition. A really strong town program might have 3-4 kids in an age group with legitimate talent. Who do they practice against and play against that will force them to grow? For the best players, playing town instead of club is a big mistake past age 10. Playing both for a year or two is fine, but top talent needs to train and play against top talent.

The "heavy lifting" part is particularly funny. My kids played both town and club up to U12. The heavy lifting was done by the club and in the backyard and basement, and the town team benefited by having very skilled players to lean on. The non-club players on the town team would touch a ball 2-3x per week in the fall or spring, for a total of 2 hours, if that. The parents raved about how "dominant" the town team was and how well they'd been developed, but the coaching and development was all done elsewhere. All the town did was provide some extra playing time, a uniform, and a couple of pizza & cupcake parties.

Clubs poach good athletes and give them training and guidance to make them into soccer players. Most often, the big clubs poach good players from smaller clubs, when the kids need better competition or exposure. Very rarely are the clubs getting a highly skilled player from a town program who can immediately make an impact. It happens, but it's not the norm.

If a big club has 60 kids in their U10 program this year, how many will they develop, over the next 3 years, into "elite" athletes on their top team?

The maximum number would be about 19, right? But, like you said, clubs poach good athletes from town programs. If they poach 1 athlete per year we're down to 16 of the original kids.

Then, of course, the clubs recruit the best players from big and little clubs alike. Let's say that's only 1 per year. Now we have 13 original kids left.

All the money, all the drills, all the practice and travel, and 22% of the kids find the promised land. What do you say to the other 78%? What benefits do the 22% enjoy from age 15 - 18 that the other 78% don't?

When they're all on the same high school team together what's the difference? Is it a "captain" arm band? That's an expensive arm band. Then they graduate from high school and 95% of the kids cease playing competitive soccer.

So my question is, why pay/play for a big club? What measurable, practical difference does it make in the future of a boy, or girl?

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If a big club has 60 kids in their U10 program this year, how many will they develop, over the next 3 years, into "elite" athletes on their top team?

The maximum number would be about 19, right? But, like you said, clubs poach good athletes from town programs. If they poach 1 athlete per year we're down to 16 of the original kids.

Then, of course, the clubs recruit the best players from big and little clubs alike. Let's say that's only 1 per year. Now we have 13 original kids left.

All the money, all the drills, all the practice and travel, and 22% of the kids find the promised land. What do you say to the other 78%? What benefits do the 22% enjoy from age 15 - 18 that the other 78% don't?

When they're all on the same high school team together what's the difference? Is it a "captain" arm band? That's an expensive arm band. Then they graduate from high school and 95% of the kids cease playing competitive soccer.

So my question is, why pay/play for a big club? What measurable, practical difference does it make in the future of a boy, or girl?

Your #'s are pretty good, and they don't even tell the whole story. A better number would be more like 50% of the original kids remaining. For a top level player, the only way to find out how high is up is to get to the best training environment possible and play it out. The pyramid gets pretty narrow pretty quickly, but you'll never know what was possible if your kid sits on a town team and doesn't try to climb it.

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Your #'s are pretty good, and they don't even tell the whole story. A better number would be more like 50% of the original kids remaining. For a top level player, the only way to find out how high is up is to get to the best training environment possible and play it out. The pyramid gets pretty narrow pretty quickly, but you'll never know what was possible if your kid sits on a town team and doesn't try to climb it.

Weymouth travel coaching better than galway or scorpions - we have players on both teams and they all agree - also coaches care about teams and players, club coaches just want to win and get paid

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Weymouth travel coaching better than galway or scorpions - we have players on both teams and they all agree - also coaches care about teams and players, club coaches just want to win and get paid

i agree at 14s

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Weymouth travel coaching better than galway or scorpions - we have players on both teams and they all agree - also coaches care about teams and players, club coaches just want to win and get paid

That's a stretch. Who coaches the 14's for Weymouth and which Scorpion and Galway teams are you talking about?

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Weymouth travel coaching better than galway or scorpions - we have players on both teams and they all agree - also coaches care about teams and players, club coaches just want to win and get paid

Congratulations. You have really good coaching at one of your age groups. Are you now about to claim that EVERY coach at EVERY age in Weymouth travel is superior, or that this is not an anomaly and that most travel coaches are better than the club coaches?

No one's buying that.

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Congratulations. You have really good coaching at one of your age groups. Are you now about to claim that EVERY coach at EVERY age in Weymouth travel is superior, or that this is not an anomaly and that most travel coaches are better than the club coaches?

No one's buying that.

club coaches just want to win and get paid - that cant be true