ECNL Coach telling college coaches girls are not good enough to play

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1005790]Inability to think the game comes from not playing enough, especially free play for FUN! Important, stressful league games are important for one aspect of training,but the players that flow, knowing how to play multiple positions all over the field typically play hours of pickup, wherever and whenever possible. Granted not a lot of females do this.

Skills plateau from lack of repetition and attention. Which has been my point all along.

This isn't an either or choice. Top teams need small quick players, as well as larger, stronger ones. The more skillful the better.

That is not what the US system typically produces.[/QUOTE

As players grow up, soccer shifts from being a physical game where size, speed and aggressiveness are hall marks of early success, to one where those factors are mitigated by a more intuitive sense of anticipating the game's flow and sense of space. As a player moves up the pyramid where speed of play becomes more and more of a factor, that intuitive sense becomes more and more critical to player success.

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this thread is about club coaches talking to college coaches??? not about ECNL producing what level of player..

the point....Does the powerful club coach tell parents and players he just told a college coach your no good for that school? lets be real on the honest part...

Right. The problem is the title of the thread turned this into another anti/pro ECNL fight which distracts from the more interesting conversation.

As to your second point, I know my D's coach would.

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this thread is about club coaches talking to college coaches??? not about ECNL producing what level of player..

the point....Does the powerful club coach tell parents and players he just told a college coach your no good for that school? lets be real on the honest part...

Every player on any team should be sitting down with their club coach to discuss their soccer future. For some, this could happen the summer before Sophomore year. For others, the summer before Junior year. They need a list of colleges that they are interested in for whatever reasons (I am sure you can find a lot of threads about that). Then the coach should go down the list and the coach should tell you which are a good fit for a variety of soccer reasons. Likewise, if a college coach calls him looking for players, he will tell that coach which players would fit their needs and work in their program. There has to be honesty or the club coach loses all credibility. Why wouldn't they be honest?

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this thread is about club coaches talking to college coaches??? not about ECNL producing what level of player..

the point....Does the powerful club coach tell parents and players he just told a college coach your no good for that school? lets be real on the honest part...

The reason the powerful club coach is mumbling or omitting that to parents is that intially they were recruited with:"if you want to play top college soccer, this is the way and the team."
Kind tough to back off from those words 3 years later. When you sell dreams it is hard to stand up and explain nightmare.

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The reason the powerful club coach is mumbling or omitting that to parents is that intially they were recruited with:"if you want to play top college soccer, this is the way and the team."
Kind tough to back off from those words 3 years later. When you sell dreams it is hard to stand up and explain nightmare.

Seriously? That all just doesn't get handed to you. Your kid needs to work their butt off along the way. Not just at practice. Not just at games. They need to put in extra work on their own at any free moment. If your kid isn't putting in all of that effort, then they can't expect anything. It isn't a promise that should be expected. Give me a break.

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As players grow up, soccer shifts from being a physical game where size, speed and aggressiveness are hall marks of early success, to one where those factors are mitigated by a more intuitive sense of anticipating the game's flow and sense of space. As a player moves up the pyramid where speed of play becomes more and more of a factor, that intuitive sense becomes more and more critical to player success.

I agree size, speed and aggressiveness become less important as everyone has these abilities. And that intuition and speed of play become more important.

Yet, very, very few players have the skills and technique necessary to calmly and quickly control the ball and break down another talented opposition. Even at the top levels of D1 womens soccer. Sorry even BC, Eagleman. So coaches switch to what works. Pressure, cover and counter. Very little play out of the back or through the midfield. Too dangerous.

Take the very same BC players and augment their various club practices by magically and retroactively placing a ball on their feet for an hour a day prior to an hour of small sided pick up, from U13 until the present day and that team would be incredible. They'd play keep away against the best teams in the country, playing at a national team level. Easy.

My comments are not against parents or players. We are all doing our best within the current system, which is broken. Club soccer coaches discourage cross training through other sports, yet present insufficient training and too much win at all cost, competitive games, to truly develop players.

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Seriously? That all just doesn't get handed to you. Your kid needs to work their butt off along the way. Not just at practice. Not just at games. They need to put in extra work on their own at any free moment. If your kid isn't putting in all of that effort, then they can't expect anything. It isn't a promise that should be expected. Give me a break.

So you are saying that there is no coach out there telling younger kids parents what they want to hear so they can bring their kids to the club? Be real. The hype is so high in a lot cases when they are being recruited.

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So you are saying that there is no coach out there telling younger kids parents what they want to hear so they can bring their kids to the club? Be real. The hype is so high in a lot cases when they are being recruited.

I'm not saying that a coach isn't claiming that their ECNL or NPL or DAP or Whatever program isn't the best way to be recruited by college coaches. And, for all I know, they may be right. What I am saying that you need to be realistic about your child. Just being in that program doesn't guarantee that they will be recruited. And I don't think a coach is saying that. And I don't think that any parent should believe that. Being in the right program is important. It is also important to work your hardest to make the most of the opportunity and experience. I hope that is the lesson you are teaching your child.

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I'm not saying that a coach isn't claiming that their ECNL or NPL or DAP or Whatever program isn't the best way to be recruited by college coaches. And, for all I know, they may be right. What I am saying that you need to be realistic about your child. Just being in that program doesn't guarantee that they will be recruited. And I don't think a coach is saying that. And I don't think that any parent should believe that. Being in the right program is important. It is also important to work your hardest to make the most of the opportunity and experience. I hope that is the lesson you are teaching your child.

SO you are saying be realistic about your child when you are sold a idea..ECNL is saying we get kids onto these college programs, we have the best of the best... go to any coach that is what they say....you are correct " wake up parents " cause they will put you on the team but then it is all the coach..if you think they are helping forget it they are not, the only thing club ECNL coaches care about is the Win and and am I the best coach, if your daughter can help him achieve that well you are the lucky one... ... In my experience which is involvement since it started...... about 4 players per team coach cares enough to help the rest on your own... Just be aware and open eyes.... Play for the love of the sport and not for idea of D1 college money.... and yes I wish it was different for my daughters, but they played for the love of the sport and they wanted to play .....