Why NEFC wants to hide - 10 reasons

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Great but I have girls and don’t care if Stars is weak on the boys side. My girls don’t want to settle for ‘reasonably strong’.

That's fine but let's not act like NEFC is falling apart. They are doing fine and will continue to do fine. Your girls can go play college soccer then graduate and get a normal job like everyone else. It's not like they are going to make millions because they play for stars.

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Non answer. The wanted ECNL because GA is a pig with lip stick. Select bailed in a heartbeat.

They wanted ECNL when they had boys ECNL. Once the boys left, getting ECNL girls was never an option and EVERYONE knew that.

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Why NEFC Wants to Hide - 10 Reasons: Fallacies and Hyperbole

To analyze the assertions made regarding NEFC (New England Futbol Club) and why they might want to “hide,” we must first understand what constitutes a fallacy and hyperbole. A fallacy is a flaw in reasoning that renders an argument invalid, while hyperbole is an exaggerated statement not meant to be taken literally.

Assertion Analysis

1. “They are a boys club. They turned down ECNL Girls so they could retain MLS Next for the boys.”
   • Fallacious Reasoning: This assertion implies that NEFC’s decisions are based solely on gender bias rather than strategic considerations for their programs. The decision to prioritize one league over another can be influenced by various factors, including financial viability, player development opportunities, and organizational goals.
   • Hyperbole: Referring to NEFC as a “boys club” exaggerates the situation, suggesting an outright exclusion of girls from opportunities without acknowledging any efforts or programs that may exist for female players.
2. “Their league is no longer 1b. GA is a pure B league now.”
   • Fallacious Reasoning: This statement assumes that the quality of the league can be reduced to a single label without considering the complexities involved in competitive sports leagues, such as team performance variability and changes in membership.
   • Hyperbole: Describing GA as a “pure B league” dramatically simplifies the situation, implying it has no merit or competitiveness left, which may not accurately reflect its current state.
3. “They know that P4 and mid major college scouts will stop attending their events once their current crop of recruits are done.”
   • Fallacious Reasoning: This assertion presumes knowledge of future actions by scouts without evidence. It overlooks potential reasons why scouts might continue attending events regardless of specific recruit classes.
   • Hyperbole: The phrase “stop attending their events” suggests an absolute outcome that may not occur; scouts often attend multiple events based on various factors beyond just one recruiting class.
4. “They know that their parents pay more than many ECNL parents.”
   • Fallacious Reasoning: This claim assumes that higher fees directly correlate with better outcomes or experiences without considering other variables like program quality or player development.
   • Hyperbole: The emphasis on parents paying “more than many ECNL parents” exaggerates financial comparisons without providing context about what those payments entail or how they relate to value received.
5. General Observations on AssertionsEach assertion relies on broad generalizations about NEFC’s motivations and operations while lacking nuanced understanding or evidence. They also employ dramatic language intended to provoke emotional responses rather than foster rational discussion.

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Assertion Analysis: Fallacies and Hyperbole

6. NB has to personally coach the 2011s EVERY year or they’ll go elsewhere. “Hey Nick, sorry but Steve is just too damn incompetent and an ahole to boot.”

This assertion is fallacious because it presents a false dichotomy; it implies that if NB does not coach the 2011s every year, they will inevitably leave for another program. This oversimplifies the situation by ignoring other factors that could influence a player’s decision to stay or leave, such as team culture, player development opportunities, or personal relationships with teammates. The hyperbolic element lies in the exaggerated claim that without NB’s personal involvement, players will definitely abandon the program, which is unlikely to be true.

7. Travel in the conference is obnoxious. Rochester and Syracuse, and on top of that the games suck.

This statement contains hyperbole in its characterization of travel as “obnoxious,” which suggests an extreme level of discomfort or annoyance that may not accurately reflect the experience of all individuals involved. It also employs a subjective judgment about the quality of games (“the games suck”), which lacks objective evidence and fails to consider differing opinions on what constitutes an enjoyable game.

8. They are now competing with Bayside and RI Surf instead of Select. They are in danger of losing to their own north shore former DPL teams. How embarrassing.

The fallacy here involves a slippery slope argument; it suggests that competing with Bayside and RI Surf will inevitably lead to embarrassment from losing to former DPL teams without providing evidence for this outcome. The hyperbolic aspect is found in labeling potential losses as “embarrassing,” which exaggerates the emotional weight of competition outcomes and overlooks the normalcy of competitive sports where wins and losses occur.

9. The new BC coach had his pick of the crop for his new assistant coach. He chose a Stars coach over nefc.

This assertion can be seen as fallacious due to its assumption that choosing one option (a Stars coach) over another (nefc) inherently indicates superiority or inferiority without context regarding qualifications, fit for the role, or other relevant factors influencing this decision. The hyperbole lies in suggesting that there was an abundance of exceptional candidates (“pick of the crop”), which may not accurately reflect reality.

10. Talent has left the GA teams. They are really trying to hide this point. Best high school age players have gone ecnl already. The ones that didn’t….tried and likely will again. The 11s will leave in droves early spring.

This statement contains a hasty generalization fallacy; it assumes that because some talent has left GA teams, all talent is leaving or will leave soon without sufficient evidence to support such a sweeping conclusion about all players’ intentions or actions. Additionally, it employs hyperbole by claiming players will leave “in droves,” suggesting an overwhelming exodus rather than acknowledging individual circumstances.

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To analyze the assertions made regarding NEFC (New England Futbol Club) and why they might want to “hide,” we must first understand what constitutes a fallacy and hyperbole. A fallacy is a flaw in reasoning that renders an argument invalid, while hyperbole is an exaggerated statement not meant to be taken literally.

Assertion Analysis
“They are a boys club. They turned down ECNL Girls so they could retain MLS Next for the boys.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This assertion implies that NEFC’s decisions are based solely on gender bias rather than strategic considerations for their programs. The decision to prioritize one league over another can be influenced by various factors, including financial viability, player development opportunities, and organizational goals.
Hyperbole: Referring to NEFC as a “boys club” exaggerates the situation, suggesting an outright exclusion of girls from opportunities without acknowledging any efforts or programs that may exist for female players.
“Their league is no longer 1b. GA is a pure B league now.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This statement assumes that the quality of the league can be reduced to a single label without considering the complexities involved in competitive sports leagues, such as team performance variability and changes in membership.
Hyperbole: Describing GA as a “pure B league” dramatically simplifies the situation, implying it has no merit or competitiveness left, which may not accurately reflect its current state.
“They know that P4 and mid major college scouts will stop attending their events once their current crop of recruits are done.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This assertion presumes knowledge of future actions by scouts without evidence. It overlooks potential reasons why scouts might continue attending events regardless of specific recruit classes.
Hyperbole: The phrase “stop attending their events” suggests an absolute outcome that may not occur; scouts often attend multiple events based on various factors beyond just one recruiting class.
“They know that their parents pay more than many ECNL parents.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This claim assumes that higher fees directly correlate with better outcomes or experiences without considering other variables like program quality or player development.
Hyperbole: The emphasis on parents paying “more than many ECNL parents” exaggerates financial comparisons without providing context about what those payments entail or how they relate to value received.
General Observations on Assertions:
Each assertion relies on broad generalizations about NEFC’s motivations and operations while lacking nuanced understanding or evidence. They also employ dramatic language intended to provoke emotional responses rather than foster rational discussion.

Overall, the assertions made regarding NEFC and their purported reasons for wanting to "hide" exhibit fallacies and hyperbole. By critically examining these claims, we can see that they are not founded on sound reasoning or accurate representations of the club's actions and intentions. It is important to approach discussions about sports clubs like NEFC with a level-headed and evidence-based perspective to avoid spreading misinformation or misconceptions.

[Guest]

To analyze the assertions made regarding NEFC (New England Futbol Club) and why they might want to “hide,” we must first understand what constitutes a fallacy and hyperbole. A fallacy is a flaw in reasoning that renders an argument invalid, while hyperbole is an exaggerated statement not meant to be taken literally.

Assertion Analysis
“They are a boys club. They turned down ECNL Girls so they could retain MLS Next for the boys.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This assertion implies that NEFC’s decisions are based solely on gender bias rather than strategic considerations for their programs. The decision to prioritize one league over another can be influenced by various factors, including financial viability, player development opportunities, and organizational goals.
Hyperbole: Referring to NEFC as a “boys club” exaggerates the situation, suggesting an outright exclusion of girls from opportunities without acknowledging any efforts or programs that may exist for female players.
“Their league is no longer 1b. GA is a pure B league now.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This statement assumes that the quality of the league can be reduced to a single label without considering the complexities involved in competitive sports leagues, such as team performance variability and changes in membership.
Hyperbole: Describing GA as a “pure B league” dramatically simplifies the situation, implying it has no merit or competitiveness left, which may not accurately reflect its current state.
“They know that P4 and mid major college scouts will stop attending their events once their current crop of recruits are done.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This assertion presumes knowledge of future actions by scouts without evidence. It overlooks potential reasons why scouts might continue attending events regardless of specific recruit classes.
Hyperbole: The phrase “stop attending their events” suggests an absolute outcome that may not occur; scouts often attend multiple events based on various factors beyond just one recruiting class.
“They know that their parents pay more than many ECNL parents.”
Fallacious Reasoning: This claim assumes that higher fees directly correlate with better outcomes or experiences without considering other variables like program quality or player development.
Hyperbole: The emphasis on parents paying “more than many ECNL parents” exaggerates financial comparisons without providing context about what those payments entail or how they relate to value received.
General Observations on Assertions:
Each assertion relies on broad generalizations about NEFC’s motivations and operations while lacking nuanced understanding or evidence. They also employ dramatic language intended to provoke emotional responses rather than foster rational discussion.

Overall, the assertions made regarding NEFC and their purported reasons for wanting to "hide" exhibit fallacies and hyperbole. By critically examining these claims, we can see that they are not founded on sound reasoning or accurate representations of the club's actions and intentions. It is important to approach discussions about sports clubs like NEFC with a level-headed and evidence-based perspective to avoid spreading misinformation or misconceptions.

Bizarro Guy is, in fact, an nefc coach hiding behind chatGPT.

[Guest]

NEFC is really the only club in NE that is reasonably strong for both boys and girls.

Strong for boys? yes.
Strong for girls? Put your clothes back on, Emporer...

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Its the same knob that writes something like it every couple of weeks. Then they respond to their own posts with agreement.

NEFC parents just ignore them becaise it doesnt matter whats said or how well the teams do. Super knob will just look for something somewhere to support their nonsense agenda.

I get being proud of your kid + praising them for doing well. What this parent is doing is different. Theyre on the offensive with a negativity campaign. Their overall goal is to try and get talent to not play at NEFC or more specifically GA because they know that GA and NEFC are doing well and are a threat to ECNL.

Whats funny is eventually poof all the posts will dissappear all at once. This will be because crazy parents kid will have been cut from the ECNL team/league they worked so had marketing for. (For free)

Why would you bother reading?
Why would you bother responding?
If responding, why would you attack the OP instead of refuting?

Methinks someone is sensitive to some harsh truths.

[Guest]

11s are already reaching out to Stars and Select. Some parents are raising hell about the last tournament. Coach throwing his team into club politics or something . Looks like Select and Stars are gonna pick some up after the New Year."

I have heard of 2 top players reaching out this week. Won’t move in fall but making sure they are seen and offered for the spring. It’s how it goes.

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Strong for boys? yes.
Strong for girls? Put your clothes back on, Emporer...

I said reasonably strong. They are the 2nd or 3rd girls club here. That's not bad. Again, there isn't another club that can make the same claim across both boys and girls. Agree?

[Guest]

I said reasonably strong. They are the 2nd or 3rd girls club here. That's not bad. Again, there isn't another club that can make the same claim across both boys and girls. Agree?

Who cares if they have both sides? I go to Chick Fil A for chicken sandwiches because they’re delicious. I could instead go to Wendy’s who has a reasonably good chicken sandwich, but I don’t.

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I said reasonably strong. They are the 2nd or 3rd girls club here. That's not bad. Again, there isn't another club that can make the same claim across both boys and girls. Agree?

4th for now

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4th for now

Rankings App sez:

1) FC Stars
2) NEFC
3) Select
4) NE Surf
5) Scorpions

if you’re looking at Boys and Girls combined (for whatever reason), NEFC is #1 and it’s not really close.

[Guest]

NEFC is not hiding at all. It's Stars that refuses to allow NEFC to play in top division in their tournaments. That's because Stars doesn't want you to know that NEFC has the better coaching AND the better players.
That is why NEFC doesn't compete in Stars tournaments.

The only Stars players that can make NEFC GA team are Blue players. If NEFC was in ECNL they'd all run to NEFC.
There's not a single player on the other Stars teams (White / ECRL / etc) that could be on the same pitch as an NEFC GA player.

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NEFC is not hiding at all. It's Stars that refuses to allow NEFC to play in top division in their tournaments. That's because Stars doesn't want you to know that NEFC has the better coaching AND the better players.
That is why NEFC doesn't compete in Stars tournaments.

The only Stars players that can make NEFC GA team are Blue players. If NEFC was in ECNL they'd all run to NEFC.
There's not a single player on the other Stars teams (White / ECRL / etc) that could be on the same pitch as an NEFC GA player.

Last time NEFC played Stars Cup, the GA teams were top bracket. Stars would 100% place them there again.

Try a different excuse.