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    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    Georgetown is not in the A10, nor did they win their conference.

    I'll trust the folks that actually follow this all along and not some TS schmuck, thank you very much.
    Another poster. Agreed. RPI IS how they judge strength of schedule, and UMass beat a P4 team, BC.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      Another poster. Agreed. RPI IS how they judge strength of schedule, and UMass beat a P4 team, BC.
      UMass did not beat a ranked team. These teams need to play out of conference matches vs. ranked opponents. These mid major conferences are not enough to get an at large bid because the overall colleges are not strong teams. UConn won the Big East and GTown got an at large because of their reputation balanced with their RPI. Not getting into a debate but the overall mid major conferences do not compare with the P4 conferences. Having 30 automatic bids by conferences with low RPI’s is what hurts the UMass and Xavier’s competing for at large bids.

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        UMass did not beat a ranked team. These teams need to play out of conference matches vs. ranked opponents. These mid major conferences are not enough to get an at large bid because the overall colleges are not strong teams. UConn won the Big East and GTown got an at large because of their reputation balanced with their RPI. Not getting into a debate but the overall mid major conferences do not compare with the P4 conferences. Having 30 automatic bids by conferences with low RPI’s is what hurts the UMass and Xavier’s competing for at large bids.
        I believe RPI takes into consideration strength of schedule, if UMass and Xavier had better RPI that Tennessee then they did their job by scheduling appropriately and performing adequately. All things being equal the committee will pick from the P4 for brand recognition alone. Unfair? Yup. Not sure what else a mid major can do?

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          I believe RPI takes into consideration strength of schedule, if UMass and Xavier had better RPI that Tennessee then they did their job by scheduling appropriately and performing adequately. All things being equal the committee will pick from the P4 for brand recognition alone. Unfair? Yup. Not sure what else a mid major can do?
          This is really what it comes down to. It was foretold already; in summary at-large bids will be near non-existent for non P4s going forward.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            This is really what it comes down to. It was foretold already; in summary at-large bids will be near non-existent for non P4s going forward.
            UMass definitely has a case, as does Pitt and Xavier. Someone explain how LSU, Cal, Washington and Colorado get in before any of those teams. Guessing regional brackets and travel are considered? I guess in the end only 6-8 teams really have a chance to win but some of these choices are suspect… P4 and not.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              UMass definitely has a case, as does Pitt and Xavier. Someone explain how LSU, Cal, Washington and Colorado get in before any of those teams. Guessing regional brackets and travel are considered? I guess in the end only 6-8 teams really have a chance to win but some of these choices are suspect… P4 and not.
              All these teams have cases to be made. The problem are the 30 automatic bids to conference championships by teams who are definitely not better than those that you just mentioned. The NCAA had to “throw a bone” to these conferences when you have in excess of 330 D1 teams. In the future with the way college sports are going there is always the possibility of P4 pulling out of the NCAA tournament and have a league tournament within the Power 4 conferences. That is not out of the question a distinct possiblity.

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                The whole 64 team tournament is a poor way to determine a champion. An eight team round robin would be better. The rest have no chance to win. The March Madness is to get big revenue for BBall. Soccer doesn’t do that.
                BTW, Santa Clara won it all a few years ago and is not in your precious P4.

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  All these teams have cases to be made. The problem are the 30 automatic bids to conference championships by teams who are definitely not better than those that you just mentioned. The NCAA had to “throw a bone” to these conferences when you have in excess of 330 D1 teams. In the future with the way college sports are going there is always the possibility of P4 pulling out of the NCAA tournament and have a league tournament within the Power 4 conferences. That is not out of the question a distinct possiblity.
                  Not only is it not out of the question, it's likely going to happen.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post
                    The whole 64 team tournament is a poor way to determine a champion. An eight team round robin would be better. The rest have no chance to win. The March Madness is to get big revenue for BBall. Soccer doesn’t do that.
                    BTW, Santa Clara won it all a few years ago and is not in your precious P4.
                    Well done. You managed to make a point, and then shoot it down, all within a single paragraph. That's remarkable even by TS standards.

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                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Not only is it not out of the question, it's likely going to happen.
                      And then the NCAA might as well dissolve.

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        And then the NCAA might as well dissolve.
                        That is exactly where this is heading because conferences are now more powerful than the NCAA. They are desperate to hold on with the dramatic changes coming to there biggest revenue generating sport football. The bowls have become Spring football games that have no meaning. As far as revenue generating the NCAA has seen a dramatic loss. The expanded 12 team playoff is just a temporary band-aid that is also a failure. The NCAA needs a serious re-boot and that will not happen with the “dinosaurs” running the show. They need a new generation of leadership.

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post

                          That is exactly where this is heading because conferences are now more powerful than the NCAA. They are desperate to hold on with the dramatic changes coming to there biggest revenue generating sport football. The bowls have become Spring football games that have no meaning. As far as revenue generating the NCAA has seen a dramatic loss. The expanded 12 team playoff is just a temporary band-aid that is also a failure. The NCAA needs a serious re-boot and that will not happen with the “dinosaurs” running the show. They need a new generation of leadership.
                          Agreed. We all know womens soccer is along for the ride and will do and go as told. Football runs the show and every decision made is for their benefit. Even som football coaches are aware of how their efforts will ruin it for the non-revenue sports.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Well done. You managed to make a point, and then shoot it down, all within a single paragraph. That's remarkable even by TS standards.
                            Not at all. Take the four P4 conference winners then add four at large teams. Santa Clara would always be one team on that radar.

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              Not at all. Take the four P4 conference winners then add four at large teams. Santa Clara would always be one team on that radar.
                              Are you referring to your “precious” P4 Conference teams? There are 30 conference championship teams what’s your formula to pick the 4 at large teams?

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                Are you referring to your “precious” P4 Conference teams? There are 30 conference championship teams what’s your formula to pick the 4 at large teams?
                                There are 5 non P4 teams in the top 33 teams by RPI. Pick 4 of those. The other P4 teams might complain but they lost their conference championship. You shouldn’t get three different chances, regular season, conf championships, then NCAA. Non P4 conference teams would be incentivized to play tougher OOC schedules to make the cut. For the others have a NIT equivalent.

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