NCAA Roster Limits

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Quick question, has anyone learned how this will impact medical redshirts for those kids already rostered in 2024 going into 2025? Are they still protected to get a year back per NCAA?

As far as eligibility the “red shirt” still has the extra year of eligibility that has not changed. The roster is still only a firm 28. Will the coach hold one of those spots depends on the coach and is this player going to help the coach/team win next season.

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I wonder if the NCAA and these P4 conferences have taken notice that the USA to date has won 41 medals in non revenue generating sports at these Olympic games so far. There will be repercussions if they start cutting these programs from colleges.

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I wonder if the NCAA and these P4 conferences have taken notice that the USA to date has won 41 medals in non revenue generating sports at these Olympic games so far. There will be repercussions if they start cutting these programs from colleges.

That's an interesting point, especially since, I bet, each of the P4 conference schools who have had their student athletes medal have touted it on social media.

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I wonder if the NCAA and these P4 conferences have taken notice that the USA to date has won 41 medals in non revenue generating sports at these Olympic games so far. There will be repercussions if they start cutting these programs from colleges.

One possibility is that a lot fewer schools offer any particular sport. They specialize in the sports where they have facilities, coaches, a history of success, etc. The Olympic sports can still do fine in the US with substantially fewer players and schools.

I'd think that to a significant degree that's already happening. Top athletes are identified and identifiable in high school. They know which programs will help them get to the next level and concentrate there.

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The NCAA is a named party to the suit along with the P4 conferences. So any roster limits should apply to all NCAA Division 1 schools. Should know more around 5PM today when the agreement is filed with the court.

Question: even if a mid major conference doesn’t opt in to revenue sharing, will the NCAA still allow them to grant the full 28 scholarships (& have a 28 roster cap) or will all colleges not opted in to revenue sharing continue to be bound by only 14 scholarships allowed for women and 9.9 for men? Seems odd for NCAA to allow 2 completely separate scholarship systems? Also, will individual colleges be able to decide or will it have to be conference wide?

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Question: even if a mid major conference doesn’t opt in to revenue sharing, will the NCAA still allow them to grant the full 28 scholarships (& have a 28 roster cap) or will all colleges not opted in to revenue sharing continue to be bound by only 14 scholarships allowed for women and 9.9 for men? Seems odd for NCAA to allow 2 completely separate scholarship systems? Also, will individual colleges be able to decide or will it have to be conference wide?

From what I understand if you opt out you are not subject to the new guidelines. You stay status quo. What's being discussed is whether or not if you opt out do you get to compete in some of the NCAA championships. Some big schools are trying to kick you out of the D1 Natties if you don't opt in.

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One possibility is that a lot fewer schools offer any particular sport. They specialize in the sports where they have facilities, coaches, a history of success, etc. The Olympic sports can still do fine in the US with substantially fewer players and schools.

I'd think that to a significant degree that's already happening. Top athletes are identified and identifiable in high school. They know which programs will help them get to the next level and concentrate there.

What about foreign-born athletes? A lot of schools bring top international talent for non-profit sports.

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One possibility is that a lot fewer schools offer any particular sport. They specialize in the sports where they have facilities, coaches, a history of success, etc. The Olympic sports can still do fine in the US with substantially fewer players and schools.

I'd think that to a significant degree that's already happening. Top athletes are identified and identifiable in high school. They know which programs will help them get to the next level and concentrate there.

Maybe it's not even just about colleges - here it's also about club and some high school connections:

An "all-girls high school has more swimming medals than most countries. Thanks to Katie Ledecky, Erin Gemmel and Phoebe Bacon, Maryland’s Stone Ridge School of the Sacred Heart has won plenty of hardware in Paris.

Understanding how one small school with a high school student body of about 385 could produce three Olympians requires unraveling a spiderweb of connections, good fortune and better coaching. ...

Ledecky was originally coached by Yuri Suguiyama at Nation’s Capital [Swim Club]. When Suguiyama left, Bruce Gemmell was hired to lead the club and relocated his family to the Washington area. Bacon swam for Nation’s Capital, too, and eventually enrolled at Wisconsin, where Suguiyama is now the head coach.

The only person to coach all is three is Bob Walker, the Stone Ridge swim coach who worked closely with the club coaches during the school swim season."

From the Washington Post

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Not that surprising if you're familiar with club sports ...

The Nation's Capital Swim Club (NCAP) is a swim club in the DMV (DC, Maryland, and Virginia) area. The club was created in 1978 as the Curl-Burke Swim Club. It changed its name to NCAP in September 2012. [1] In 2016, USA Swimming ranked it the top club in the nation as part of its USA Swimming Club Excellence program.[2] It has produced a number of Olympic medalists, including Mike Barrowman, Tom Dolan,[3] Mark Henderson, Ed Moses, Jack Conger, Andrew Wilson, Phoebe Bacon, and Katie Ledecky. - Wikipedia

Seems similar to the Skating Club of Boston
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skating_Club_of_Boston