ECNL wants to switch back to school year from birth year

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Pretty sure it’s the same dude that makes statements, replies with agreements to his own statements, has a SOCAL account with a few different names and just tossed that idea out there

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Kudos to the new guy offering up an idea that hasn't been covered in the last 303 pages.

It's almost the same thing as SY

But there's enough to appeal to BY and RAE people

To address BY the groupings are calender based but it happens to address SY time frames.

It addresses RAE because younger players in the age group can play down.

In showcases naturally Jan 1 to July 1 birthdays will want to play up.

Recruiters end up only watching teams that are graduating a certain grade or graduating year.

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Pretty sure it’s the same dude that makes statements, replies with agreements to his own statements, has a SOCAL account with a few different names and just tossed that idea out there

I copied and posted it there because it's a good idea.

But I didn't write it.

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Why would they go with an 8/1 cut off (approx 7 states follow this) as opposed to a 9/1 or 9/15 cut off which encompasses approximately 29 states depending on the date you use? The cut off dates for school registration have changed over the years. It doesn’t make sense to do something now just because it was done that way before….

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This is a good idea.

Jan 1 to July 1 birthdays could play down for wins but by the time the get to HS they'll want to play up to get noticed by recruiters at showcases.

Now we just need to hire twice as many coaches and find twice as much field space for games and practices. I wonder what an increased demand will do to the cost of field rentals. I wonder what the quality of these extra coaches will be.

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Now we just need to hire twice as many coaches and find twice as much field space for games and practices. I wonder what an increased demand will do to the cost of field rentals. I wonder what the quality of these extra coaches will be.

And find twice the amount of refs. Are we still in a ref shortage?

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Just have both groups do the same showcases.

But league A only plays league A teams and vice versa.

Coaches can already go to the same showcases and watch same-BY players play on two different teams. Why do we need a whole new system for this?

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Now we just need to hire twice as many coaches and find twice as much field space for games and practices. I wonder what an increased demand will do to the cost of field rentals. I wonder what the quality of these extra coaches will be.

No this is just SY defined by July 1st to July 1st.

Same number of teams as before.

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There's a way to make everyone happy and for clubs to make even more money.

Just run 2 concurrent leagues.

League A will be Jan 1st to July 1st
League B will be July 1st to Dec 31st

If players want to play with kids in their grade in school either they'll be forced to (July 1st to Dec 31st) or they'll have the option to play up with their grade (Jan 1st to July 1st)

This solves RAE, lets kids play with their grade in school, and creates more teams for kids to play on. Which means more $$$ for clubs.

This was the best way to run US soccer from a participation rate and development opportunity standpoint for leagues prior to U14. It doesn’t solve trapped player problem though. For that you need to adjust your dates - then you will have perfection.

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This was the best way to run US soccer from a participation rate and development opportunity standpoint for leagues prior to U14. It doesn’t solve trapped player problem though. For that you need to adjust your dates - then you will have perfection.

The dates are adjusted.

This is BY but instead of being Jan 1st to Jan 1st it's July 1st to July 1st

Which basically gives you a much simpler version of SY.

Letting the Jan 1st to July 1st play down is just for RAE. The assumption is players would would to play with kids their age in achool at showcases.

Showcase games would be players a

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Now we just need to hire twice as many coaches and find twice as much field space for games and practices. I wonder what an increased demand will do to the cost of field rentals. I wonder what the quality of these extra coaches will be.

You already have these players and coaches. This is your B team with a different name and less stigma. It only really is needed until puberty ages.

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You already have these players and coaches. This is your B team with a different name and less stigma. It only really is needed until puberty ages.

So no more B teams? Or do you have 2 B teams, one older, one younger.

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I am all for participation trophies and not keeping score in ECNL. I’m sorry I’m not sorry for believing that everything in life should be earned and I’m not about to raise two boys to be men by making them believe that they are entitled to something just because they tried their best. Maybe August babies get 2 trophies automatically? For soccer, I would do trophies at all at younger ages, especially for achievement of skills tests.Trophies for all performers, and badges for levels of achievement (think Karate belts) – 10 juggles, 50 juggles, club’s top juggler gets a trophy. Most touches on 60 seconds. Dribbling the cones competitions. Shot placements, or even the crossbar challenge. Hold a soccer tennis tournament: The top three teams get 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

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And find twice the amount of refs. Are we still in a ref shortage?

I can’t wait until trace and veo take over reffing.

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This thread is ridiculous. The change needs to happen because it's time to right the wrong. Everyone will survive. Sure maybe a few wrongs will get introduced but in the grand scheme of things, this change will help more than it will hurt. There will never be a perfect solution like anything in life. I'm thankful to the soccer overlords for putting selfishness aside and coming together for the greater good.
And I say this as a current q1 player who struggles physically and I know that because of the change her status is tenuous.

Your first world problems are absolutely insane.