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    Originally posted by Guest View Post
    On the just released ECNL podcast, they had a gentleman on from the UK, that describes program over there. European Champions League academy teams all are organized by school year. He said it only is a slight issue in international play. He also said that the UK has been organized by school year for as long as he can remember...
    Sounds like they may be setting the scene to navigate multiple cutoffs for tournaments and any international play.

    Speaker 3: 8:25
    If Liverpool's U16 team goes to play in European competition knowing there's different. Was it September 1? Is that the cutoff?
    Speaker 6: 8:33
    Yeah, september 1, generally yeah.
    Speaker 3: 8:35
    So if they're September 1, they go to play Ajax. Ajax is January 1, how do they do that?
    Speaker 6: 8:40
    Yeah, good question. So they'll do. Ajax will just have a mix of the two, I guess, in terms of years, years of birth, mixed into the age group, because they'll have some that are kind of early part of one year and late part of the other year, and then for Liverpool they would just operate as normal in terms of their approach. But I think where you get a lot of the bigger European clubs and a lot of the bigger Premier League clubs will already be playing younger players up anyway, because that's just the way that they're operating in their academies. In the 16s, for example, liverpool will probably have I'm just guessing here but probably a 60-40 split between under-16 players. The 60, and 40% will probably be 15s players playing up anyway.
    Speaker 6: 9:25
    So you always get that little bit of a disparity between clubs anyway and I think Ajax will be similar in that kind of sense and then some others maybe will operate solely with the older players in the year for that tournament.
    Speaker 6: 9:39
    But it'll be defined by whoever's running that tournament what the kind of cut off point is in terms of under 16 at this state and then you work back from that in terms of what players you have available. But a lot easier to do in a system where you have so many kids in an academy that are fairly close in level anyway that it doesn't make a huge amount of difference Usually when it's one year difference. The bigger change came if it was a two year gap right, because that's massive at youth development age, but generally a one year is not huge and they would only put the right ones for the right level of challenge into that squad for that tournament. And that's again where they're blessed, because they pick their tournaments around the world and then they pick which ones suit which players at which time. And that's where they're probably fortunate because of the nature of Premier League academies and Cat 1 academies in the UK.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      On the just released ECNL podcast, they had a gentleman on from the UK, that describes program over there. European Champions League academy teams all are organized by school year. He said it only is a slight issue in international play. He also said that the UK has been organized by school year for as long as he can remember...
      Right and don't forget their international play is roughly the same as the teams that play in an FC Stars tournament. Amsterdam to London is like 6 hours. We aren't going to have the same problems.

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        Right and don't forget their international play is roughly the same as the teams that play in an FC Stars tournament. Amsterdam to London is like 6 hours. We aren't going to have the same problems.
        Can we please have a reasonable development program here in the US?

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          International Success? Such as winning the Olympics, winning 2 of the last 3 world cups, or making the podium in all the major international tournaments across all age groups in the same year?
          People have this crazy idea that the US is dominant on the women’s soccer scene because US women are better at soccer. Now that other countries are realizing there’s $$ to be made on the women’s side they are spinning up the same academy system proven to work on the men’s side for the women. Another few years when that starts to pay off our women will face a similar fate in international play as our men’s teams.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            Can we please have a reasonable development program here in the US?
            We could but there are no universal standards of what constitutes an academy player. Instead you have a lot of inside politics driving roster selections, opportunities to play up, play extra matches, etc.

            The US really should have an NFL combine approach to breaking down the skills to compare. Sorry but a 2v2 game on a postage stamp only proves little players move fast, but that context doesn’t apply to a 120 x 80 yard field except for zone 14. To build a team based on that is rediculous. Yet that’s what nearly all academies do.

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              Originally posted by Guest View Post

              MLSNext is not changing. So thats a bad assumption.
              I haven’t heard that they wouldn’t change. Seems odd that they wouldn’t change along with everyone else.

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                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                lol so now you’re source of information is wiki? Bruh, 90% of girls are done growing by 14 read up. RAE is minimal after 13. Keep exaggerating and being dramatic
                You really should look up RAE and Malcolm Gladwell for a full understanding.

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  You really should look up RAE and Malcolm Gladwell for a full understanding.
                  Let him be…clearly RAE affected his education and intellect. He’s hopelessly behind us and how we understand the world.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    You really should look up RAE and Malcolm Gladwell for a full understanding.
                    So close - RAE is real, but Gladwell is a hack. Pop psychology dumbed down and missing a ton of context.

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                      Make sure you email your coach that.

                      good luck.

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                        Appears momentum has fizzled

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                          Originally posted by Guest View Post
                          Appears momentum has fizzled
                          A lot of discussion about Sept 1 being a better cut off. Aligns with England.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            A lot of discussion about Sept 1 being a better cut off. Aligns with England.
                            Most California schools are 8/1. Which we make up a big chunk of the soccer landscape. Best thing is to kick it back to the states to decide or let private academies go with something like Grad year.

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post
                              Appears momentum has fizzled
                              True only 20 posts today instead of the normal 50

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                                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                                True only 20 posts today instead of the normal 50
                                This thread is like the movie Groundhog Day. Rehashing the same argument ad nauseam.

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