ECNL wants to switch back to school year from birth year

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Ok this is the last time I will explain it because you are too dumb for me to interact with:

1) so what? Instill some resiliency in your child. If they don’t want to play soccer because their friend is on a different team then they should go to dance. They don’t like the game and wouldn’t make it far enough to worry about 2 or 3. This is just a cop out for weak parents raising weak kids.

2)this is literally not a fact. This is just a stupid statement. they absolutely do not miss out on a single club game. They play literally the same number of games as any other team. They just start 2 months later in mid November instead of mid-September. They miss out on 0 trainings because every club lets trapped players train with the younger team and play in friendlies. And your club could let 2 ecnl players play in ecnl games which if they do means they will get to play in MORE games than their teammates.

3) this again is not a fact. This is again a statement that shows you have no idea how college recruiting works (you’re a ulittle mom so I don’t expect you to get it). First of all if your kid is still recruiting at u18 then they are likely going d3 and showcases wont matter anyway. U17 goes straight to u19 the next year, ecnl teams never, ever have trouble fielding teams at this age group. Your mia will get to play if she’s good enough. Coaches don’t recruit teams they recruit players. Going to showcases allows the coach at the school your mis wants to go to see her live. Random coaches aren’t going to pull up to her game and go “hey look at Mia run’, I want her to be on my team”. You’re losing nothing from a recruiting standpoint because of by. Coaches know the players grad year when they watch them.

so in conclusion, your facts are mostly wrong and there’s no benefit from moving the current cutoff. And btw, it’s not happening anyway. So go back to making breakfast for mia.

1) "So what" and "Instill some resiliency in your child" does not invalid the fact that there's an issue. Yes, there are work-arounds for the issue, but the need for workarounds means there is actually an issue that you have to work around. The issue goes away using Aug 1 cutoff.

2) All the 9th graders are playing HS soccer Aug-November while the trapped players have no team to play on for those months unless their club and their league use a workaround. The need for a workaround means there is actually an issue that you have to work around. The issue goes away using Aug 1 cutoff.

3) Even taking your assertion here as being true (which it isn't), this is an issue then for anyone trying to get recruited to a D3 program. For D3 recruiting, the most crucial time to be seen at showcases is junior year spring semester, and if you are a trapped player on a U19 team, the vast majority of good showcases don't even have a U19 bracket. Have been through this soccer recruiting process twice, so am deeply familiar with the process.

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1) "So what" and "Instill some resiliency in your child" does not invalid the fact that there's an issue. Yes, there are work-arounds for the issue, but the need for workarounds means there is actually an issue that you have to work around. The issue goes away using Aug 1 cutoff.

2) All the 9th graders are playing HS soccer Aug-November while the trapped players have no team to play on for those months unless their club and their league use a workaround. The need for a workaround means there is actually an issue that you have to work around. The issue goes away using Aug 1 cutoff.

3) Even taking your assertion here as being true (which it isn't), this is an issue then for anyone trying to get recruited to a D3 program. For D3 recruiting, the most crucial time to be seen at showcases is junior year spring semester, and if you are a trapped player on a U19 team, the vast majority of good showcases don't even have a U19 bracket. Have been through this soccer recruiting process twice, so am deeply familiar with the process.

You’re hopeless. Instead of worrying about soccer, worry about what you’re going to wear to your kids job interview when they graduate college. You’re going to need to answer those questions for them too. Like I said keep
hittinh refresh for news that will never come.

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You’re hopeless. Instead of worrying about soccer, worry about what you’re going to wear to your kids job interview when they graduate college. You’re going to need to answer those questions for them too. Like I said keep
hittinh refresh for news that will never come.

It’s interesting that you have no answer when someone responds with actual facts. Hopefully your kid’s intellect doesn’t mirror yours.

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It’s interesting that you have no answer when someone responds with actual facts. Hopefully your kid’s intellect doesn’t mirror yours.

lol, I have answered this with actual facts on several occasions but you are too idiotic to realize you are wrong. So that makes you a hope orange slicer. Now get ready to take your kid’s tests, do her homework and tell her nothing is ever her fault it’s the big bad boogeyman to blame. You’re the typical b team mom who thinks the kid could be a “superstar” if it she was only the oldest. Gosh darn it! Sorry to say that’s not it. Now keep hitting refresh waiting for the news to come!

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You’re hopeless. Instead of worrying about soccer, worry about what you’re going to wear to your kids job interview when they graduate college. You’re going to need to answer those questions for them too. Like I said keep
hittinh refresh for news that will never come.

My older one graduated in May and her first day of work was this past Monday. My younger one is a rising college junior and started her summer internship on Monday as well. They seem to be doing just fine...

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lol, I have answered this with actual facts on several occasions but you are too idiotic to realize you are wrong. So that makes you a hope orange slicer. Now get ready to take your kid’s tests, do her homework and tell her nothing is ever her fault it’s the big bad boogeyman to blame. You’re the typical b team mom who thinks the kid could be a “superstar” if it she was only the oldest. Gosh darn it! Sorry to say that’s not it. Now keep hitting refresh waiting for the news to come!

You've answered everything with workarounds, which basically validates the fact that there is an issue that needs workarounds.

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It’s good we take turns with our kids being the youngest and oldest. Little Mia can’t always be the oldest. Switch it up.

Yes switch it up. Just like one group being oldest in school and, to switch it up, one group be oldest in club. Perfect solution. Glad you thought of it.

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Maybe but not really. If you’re like a ulittle 9 year old maybe. But my kid won’t have an issue. They could make the cutoff an extra year up and she would still be good. So again doesn’t affect me. RAE is ehh overall. Everyone is looking for some leg up but the reality have your kid practice more, work hard and most importantly love the game and ultimately they will succeed. The rest of this parents trying to give their kid an advantage which they don’t need. They need to learn how to trap a ball, pass a ball, shoot a ball and make good decisions under pressure. NONE of that has anything to do with age cutoff. If your kid gets good at those 4 things age cutoff won’t matter to your kid either.

Your kid will be affected even if she can currently play a year up. The team a year up will now be harder to make. If she’s currently middle of pack playing up on BLUE, she’ll now be riding the bench a lot more.

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Thank you for a very articulate and thoughtful post. As the parent of a player who has been on a national team since the beginning you should be aware that there are significant changes to rosters every year. Maybe 5 of her team’s original 20 players are still together. And that doesn’t even illustrate how many players have come for a year and been replaced. The older teams are less social and more goal driven. The goal being college recruitment. The early years of running around a hotel playing manhunt and having pizza in the lobby are basically over. It’s still fun and my daughter truly likes the girls on her team but her sense of comaraderie comes from her HS team. This is another reason the change is coming. The primary focus and literal organizational slogan is the proven pathway to college. Graduation year makes college recruiting easier and successful recruiting is the mission of the ECNL. Irrespective of what happens just prepare your daughter for the fact that her team will most likely have significant roster changes annually.

Perhaps the best post of the entire thread. To add a bit, the relationships of parents change just as the those of the players. Hopefully you are social with most parents and find one or two that you truly enjoy their company. The older the players get, the less cohesive the parents. Quite a few players will spend their tournament nights doing their schoolwork. Summer playoffs are more about rest, recovery, and getting your player off their feet rather than what activity you can find in whatever city you get to visit. Enjoy the ulittle years. Older years are equally precious but very very different.

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My older one graduated in May and her first day of work was this past Monday. My younger one is a rising college junior and started her summer internship on Monday as well. They seem to be doing just fine...

Why in God’s name are you spamming a children’s soccer forum if your “kids” are grown adults? Please put me right out of my misery if I’m still on this board once my kids are committed. Please I beg you get help. Go outside. Play pickleball. Play golf. Do something with your life.

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Your kid will be affected even if she can currently play a year up. The team a year up will now be harder to make. If she’s currently middle of pack playing up on BLUE, she’ll now be riding the bench a lot more.

I mean if you say so. I’m not sure why you think that but if you say so. I mean if that happens she’ll just have to work harder and earn it. See neither her or I are afraid of competition, we welcome it and revel in it. You see it as an obstacle we see it as an opportunity to get better. That’s why it none of this matters to either of us. I’m not trying to make it easier for her like you all are. That’s why ultimately no matter what she does she will be successful. Succeed, fail, fix it, succeed. Not take away every obstacle in her path

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Why in God’s name are you spamming a children’s soccer forum if your “kids” are grown adults? Please put me right out of my misery if I’m still on this board once my kids are committed. Please I beg you get help. Go outside. Play pickleball. Play golf. Do something with your life.

I have a son who is a rising junior in high school and is in the midst of the recruiting process too.

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Why in God’s name are you spamming a children’s soccer forum if your “kids” are grown adults? Please put me right out of my misery if I’m still on this board once my kids are committed. Please I beg you get help. Go outside. Play pickleball. Play golf. Do something with your life.

Oh...and I'm a 4.2-rated pickleball player. Have played a ton after retiring 3 years ago.

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Why in God’s name are you spamming a children’s soccer forum if your “kids” are grown adults? Please put me right out of my misery if I’m still on this board once my kids are committed. Please I beg you get help. Go outside. Play pickleball. Play golf. Do something with your life.

I mean I’m begging you to get help for little Mia’s sake but you still post on here so….

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I mean if you say so. I’m not sure why you think that but if you say so. I mean if that happens she’ll just have to work harder and earn it. See neither her or I are afraid of competition, we welcome it and revel in it. You see it as an obstacle we see it as an opportunity to get better. That’s why it none of this matters to either of us. I’m not trying to make it easier for her like you all are. That’s why ultimately no matter what she does she will be successful. Succeed, fail, fix it, succeed. Not take away every obstacle in her path

She nor I…