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    #31
    FFS just ask your club.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      They are the same players who were "trapped" in 8th grade without a team. Couldn't think of another name to use to describe their situation as HS juniors, so my apologies for being lazy and just using the label "trapped"; I just figured most people would understand who I was talking about without having to go through a big description of their circumstance and coming up with a label for them. My bad.
      Don't apologize to the troll. Trapped is how moat describe those 8th graders on teams with more high school freshman playing HS in the fall. Those kids also can run into recruiting issues and finding a team to play on their senior year, which is why they created U19. Before the calendar year change, each designation captured nearly all players by grade. U18 seniors U17 juniors etc. Much easier for all involved and it was rare a player might have a problem (held back a year, moved from another state)

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        #33
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        NECSL has their modified player rule. 3 players per team can play down an age group. The rule wasn't specifically made for this situation, but it can definitely be used.
        My understanding is that clubs can request waiver for bio banding players to lower age groups. From what i know, clubs need to proved honest assessments regarding factors such as size and playing ability. The child typically but not always needs to be born in the last third of the calendar year. While it was once believed that the child had to be in the same grade as the team they play for, it seems that's no longer the case. Bio banding can happen at any age group or level of competition, given the club has obtained the necessary league approval waiver.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          My understanding is that clubs can request waiver for bio banding players to lower age groups. From what i know, clubs need to proved honest assessments regarding factors such as size and playing ability. The child typically but not always needs to be born in the last third of the calendar year. While it was once believed that the child had to be in the same grade as the team they play for, it seems that's no longer the case. Bio banding can happen at any age group or level of competition, given the club has obtained the necessary league approval waiver.
          Bio banding is somewhat tied to age, but it primarily revolves around the player's current and projected height/weight rather than solely their age. For instance, a player bon in November of a calendar year who is undersized might be moved down to their age appropriate grade level. Once this adjustment happens, their current and projected height/weight become the basis for ongoing bio banding. This explanation simplifies bio banding, focusing on the physical aspects that determine a player's placement.

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            #35
            I believe MLS is rhe only league that does biobanding. It's really for the younger ages where puberty hits at wildly different points depending on each kid

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              #36
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              I believe MLS is rhe only league that does biobanding. It's really for the younger ages where puberty hits at wildly different points depending on each kid
              My son plays pre national 2012. There are two players that are 2011s that are bio banded down, and rightfully so. His team has played at least one other club team that had other 2011s bio banded down.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                My son plays pre national 2012. There are two players that are 2011s that are bio banded down, and rightfully so. His team has played at least one other club team that had other 2011s bio banded down.
                You just proved their point that it's only a few and with younger teams, and pre anything is pre nothing

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  My understanding is that clubs can request waiver for bio banding players to lower age groups. From what i know, clubs need to proved honest assessments regarding factors such as size and playing ability. The child typically but not always needs to be born in the last third of the calendar year. While it was once believed that the child had to be in the same grade as the team they play for, it seems that's no longer the case. Bio banding can happen at any age group or level of competition, given the club has obtained the necessary league approval waiver.
                  You have way too much faith in SC and the NECSL. You simply fill in a short Google form and they add the player to the modified player list. The form has nothing about bio banding on it. Nowhere to out their height, weight etc. As far as I am aware, no one has ever been rejected a spot on that list.

                  It has essentially become a way for clubs to be more flexible with their rosters.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    You have way too much faith in SC and the NECSL. You simply fill in a short Google form and they add the player to the modified player list. The form has nothing about bio banding on it. Nowhere to out their height, weight etc. As far as I am aware, no one has ever been rejected a spot on that list.

                    It has essentially become a way for clubs to be more flexible with their rosters.
                    As long as clubs are doing it for the right reasons, I don't see a problem with this.
                    Allowing for teams to play in the age appropriate group while having a couple of older players who got "trapped" in either 8th or 12th grade to be rostered, seems like a perfectly good reason to me.
                    Allowing coaches/clubs to do this for any other reason... it's basically cheating.

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