National Letter of Intent?

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Fine I'll answer-BECAUSE MY EGO DOESN'T WANT HER TO WAIT! Happy? Now let my little Mia pretend to be committed like the D1 and D2 athletes!

That and the fact that Mommy and Daddy don't want their little NESCAC or LoLiberty League Princess, lumped in with the likes of Curry, Endicott, McDaniel, Montclair St. or the hundreds of other programs that their little princess was too good for. However can they claim their little Princess' team is as good as D1 if they don't take the picture with D1?

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NESCAC and Liberty are D3.
Talking about leagues here not colleges. Keep up

Some people don't like to be shown they're wrong, but as much as it pains you - Liberty is a Division 1 school, not D3

https://www.liberty.edu/athletics/

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A thriving athletics program has been an integral part of Liberty University’s vision from the beginning, and today Liberty has 20 NCAA Division I athletic teams, 40+ Club Sports teams, and 20 intramural sports.

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My daughters' High School no longer invites the D3 athletes to NLI days, only the Spring Celebratory Form signing day, citing NCAA designated days. The real story is...

They stopped inviting D3 athletes the year my middle daughter signed her NLI, because the mom of a D3 athlete threw a fit when they decided to postpone the ceremony for a week. One of the top athletes (not a soccer player) in the high school had had Covid and had to reschedule her OV for the weekend after NLI day. Even though she was verbally committed, the coach didn't want to send the NLI until she had completed the OV. High School AD sent out an email to all the athletes & parents, with some BS excuse as to why they couldn't do it ON the standard NLI day, but we knew it was because they wanted to hold it when this athlete could participate.

I had no problem with the postponement (it was the day before NLIs were due), the kid was the most decorated athlete in her sport that the school had ever had-she was also my daughter's best friend, who I adore and deserved to be there more than anyone else. One of the D3 soccer moms put 2 and 2 together and gave the AD the "what for" about "the rumor" that it was being postponed for this one kid and how unfair it was to her kid that she'd have to wait, blah, blah and everybody else her kid knew was going to be able to post pictures, blah, blah and the other kids shouldn't have to suffer because of one kid. AD explained that it was a courtesy to invite her kid and technically her kid wasn't involved in the NLI process and he reserved the right to hold the ceremony on whatever day he chose within NCAA guidelines. 2 days later, he sent an "invitation" but only to the D1 & D2 athletes and their families. It was a real mess...

Wow, if this is true, this mom must be bat crazy. Must be a stressful life.

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Some people don't like to be shown they're wrong, but as much as it pains you - Liberty is a Division 1 school, not D3

https://www.liberty.edu/athletics/

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A thriving athletics program has been an integral part of Liberty University’s vision from the beginning, and today Liberty has 20 NCAA Division I athletic teams, 40+ Club Sports teams, and 20 intramural sports.

Liberty League is what they are talking about. D3

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I have question can someone please name a HS that are having kids that aren’t signing NLI “faking” they are?
It is also crazy to think that this really bothers people this much?
In the big picture of life how many people care if they are signing something or not around these kids towns or schools?
Its a few pictures that people will forget in a few days and no one is going to get hurt.
Also how many kids that are signing their commitment stay at the same college for 4 years?
Do the schools have to bring the kids back and do a reshoot if the change colleges?

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Some people don't like to be shown they're wrong, but as much as it pains you - Liberty is a Division 1 school, not D3

https://www.liberty.edu/athletics/

Liberty Flames

A thriving athletics program has been an integral part of Liberty University’s vision from the beginning, and today Liberty has 20 NCAA Division I athletic teams, 40+ Club Sports teams, and 20 intramural sports.

Are you really this dumb?

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I have question can someone please name a HS that are having kids that aren’t signing NLI “faking” they are?
It is also crazy to think that this really bothers people this much?
In the big picture of life how many people care if they are signing something or not around these kids towns or schools?
Its a few pictures that people will forget in a few days and no one is going to get hurt.
Also how many kids that are signing their commitment stay at the same college for 4 years?
Do the schools have to bring the kids back and do a reshoot if the change colleges?

I think the practice at HS has subsided. They have figured out the stand-in-your-sweatshirt thing. The practice on social media continues, and the TS debate rages on…

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Has anyone ever gotten "gracefully" out of a D1 verbal commitment? And how?

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I have question can someone please name a HS that are having kids that aren’t signing NLI “faking” they are?
It is also crazy to think that this really bothers people this much?
In the big picture of life how many people care if they are signing something or not around these kids towns or schools?
Its a few pictures that people will forget in a few days and no one is going to get hurt.
Also how many kids that are signing their commitment stay at the same college for 4 years?
Do the schools have to bring the kids back and do a reshoot if the change colleges?

Any kid even standing in their sweatshirt on NLI day in November, claiming they are committed, is faking it. NLI day is to sign NLIs and commemorate athletes that are making their official commitment, not "verbal". The NCAA designates a day in May for all other athletes.
Not a single person has answered why it's deemed unacceptable for D3 athletes to wait until the day that NCAA has devoted to D athletes, to publicize their official commitment.

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Wow, if this is true, this mom must be bat crazy. Must be a stressful life.

No crazier than the mom on here stomping her feet demanding her D3 kid be allowed to fake sign an NLI.

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Has anyone ever gotten "gracefully" out of a D1 verbal commitment? And how?

The good news for the player is that you can get out. It is not uncommon, it is uncomfortable. Ultimately the coach doesn't want a bad fit either and they might have another recruit and would welcome the money back.
The binder for the "commitment" is really just the reputation of the college/college coach, especially if that player is from a pipeline league. The player is supposed to take themselves off the market and similarly the club coach, who also has a reputation to maintain, should not continue to shop a player after commitment.

Things happen tho. Honesty is the always the best answer. Simply explain what changed and be honest about what college she is now choosing, and why.
The verbal really is just words, until you sign the NLI. Once NLI is signed, no one can make you attend that college, nor are your parents on the hook for the remainder of tuition owed, but another athletic scholarship is off the table for at least a year.
This is why we have NLI Signing Days with pictures off grounds of the destination college and in presence of trusted advisors (parents, principal, etc.). I assume years ago some higher ticket athletes (football, baseball) claimed coercion and took better deals.

Short answer: Your player can do whatever she wants. A commitment is not indentured studentude

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The good news for the player is that you can get out. It is not uncommon, it is uncomfortable. Ultimately the coach doesn't want a bad fit either and they might have another recruit and would welcome the money back.
The binder for the "commitment" is really just the reputation of the college/college coach, especially if that player is from a pipeline league. The player is supposed to take themselves off the market and similarly the club coach, who also has a reputation to maintain, should not continue to shop a player after commitment.

Things happen tho. Honesty is the always the best answer. Simply explain what changed and be honest about what college she is now choosing, and why.
The verbal really is just words, until you sign the NLI. Once NLI is signed, no one can make you attend that college, nor are your parents on the hook for the remainder of tuition owed, but another athletic scholarship is off the table for at least a year.
This is why we have NLI Signing Days with pictures off grounds of the destination college and in presence of trusted advisors (parents, principal, etc.). I assume years ago some higher ticket athletes (football, baseball) claimed coercion and took better deals.

Short answer: Your player can do whatever she wants. A commitment is not indentured studentude

I also know of Coaches “walking back” verbal commitments when they found a better player for that position. Yes, that happens as well.

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I also know of Coaches “walking back” verbal commitments when they found a better player for that position. Yes, that happens as well.

It does although not often. A reputation for doing that ultimately hurts recruiting. Players can bow out of a verbal no problem. They even can bow out of an NLI - it's not a good look to hold athletes hostage if something changed for them. If a coach leaves they are allowed to look elsewhere if they want. A school cannot reneg on NLI unless the recruited athlete did something really awful that violated school or team polices (say posted racist crap on social media etc)

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Any kid even standing in their sweatshirt on NLI day in November, claiming they are committed, is faking it. NLI day is to sign NLIs and commemorate athletes that are making their official commitment, not "verbal". The NCAA designates a day in May for all other athletes.
Not a single person has answered why it's deemed unacceptable for D3 athletes to wait until the day that NCAA has devoted to D athletes, to publicize their official commitment.

Amazing how much this bothers you... sad