Is it really play GA or ECNL or nothing?

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I think people misunderstood when I said that you need to play for a winning team. Also I agree that recruiters recruit for positions or players not teams.

Here's recruiters order of priority.

1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team
3. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked "other" team
4. Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
5. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league
6 Everything else. Finding Players at random tournamants, or walkons, local leagues etc

I realize some parents want to discount winning. But this is a fundamental part of playing a game.

Nope.

1. Players on an ECNL team who fit their positional need
2. Players on an GA team who fit their positional need
3. Players from another league who fit their positional need

I mean, you can keep typing it over and over but it doesn't make it right. My experience tells me so.

Nobody discounts winning, but also realize that your attempts to discredit individual players for the faults of the collective team are folly.

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fixed it for you:
(Remove #3 and add those other teams you are trying to include into number 6, everything else.)

D1 and D2 (and too Ivy D3)
1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team

D2 and D3
3.Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
4. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league

high school and community college
6 Everything else.

Not OP.

This is 99.99% true. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
If your kid is the 0.01% unicorn, good for you. But you still have a tough path.

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fixed it for you:
(Remove #3 and add those other teams you are trying to include into number 6, everything else.)

D1 and D2 (and too Ivy D3)
1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team

D2 and D3
3.Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
4. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league

high school and community college
6 Everything else.

So in this chucklehead's mind nobody plays D1 unless you are on a highly ranked ECNL or GA team.

Love the internet and the idea people can say whatever they want and act like it's true.

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fixed it for you:
(Remove #3 and add those other teams you are trying to include into number 6, everything else.)

D1 and D2 (and too Ivy D3)
1. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked ECNL team
2. Players for a specific position on a highly ranked GA team

D2 and D3
3.Players for a specific position from lower ranked ECNL, GA, Other teams
4. Players from highly ranked DPL or ECRL or whatever B league

high school and community college
6 Everything else.

I agree with the changes + I'm sure there are several from lower levels that end up D1 and I'm also sure there's sever from the top teams that choose to do D2 D3.

I just get tired of the XYZ pompom squad saying XYZ league is the only way into college soccer. Yes, it's a huge advantage for players to get noticed but just being in XYZ league isn't enough. You need to be a stand out player on a stand out team to get noticed.

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LOL I'm literally looking at FC Stars Commitment page, and am seeing two dozen players from the last two years from Stars WHITE committed to D1 schools. Nobody in their right mind would consider that program "highly ranked". Hell, friggin' SEACOAST puts players in the ACC and other D1 schools for crying out loud.

Not sure where the latest campaign is coming from but it sure is entertaining, in a driving by the scene of a car crash kind of way....

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I agree with the changes + I'm sure there are several from lower levels that end up D1 and I'm also sure there's sever from the top teams that choose to do D2 D3.

I just get tired of the XYZ pompom squad saying XYZ league is the only way into college soccer. Yes, it's a huge advantage for players to get noticed but just being in XYZ league isn't enough. You need to be a stand out player on a stand out team to get noticed.

Nobody, literally nobody, says it's the only way. The only person making absolute statements are those that list out the ways to play and where from, and list the "lowly ranked teams" going into D2 and D3. THAT's the idiot you should be looking out for.

Oh, wait, that's you....

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LOL I'm literally looking at FC Stars Commitment page, and am seeing two dozen players from the last two years from Stars WHITE committed to D1 schools. Nobody in their right mind would consider that program "highly ranked". Hell, friggin' SEACOAST puts players in the ACC and other D1 schools for crying out loud.

Not sure where the latest campaign is coming from but it sure is entertaining, in a driving by the scene of a car crash kind of way....

Some clubs have very good connections into Universities.

If colleges choose to bring on friends of friends thats how it is. Willl their teams do better than other colleges that are actually working to recruit the highest level talent?

Probabaly not.

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Some clubs have very good connections into Universities.

If colleges choose to bring on friends of friends thats how it is. Willl their teams do better than other colleges that are actually working to recruit the highest level talent?

Probabaly not.

Sounds like a lot of words to say "You don't need to play on a high level team to play at a D1 school" without actually saying it.

You can think whatever you want. You can think there is a NT-level player in Limestone, Maine right now that would blow the socks off any player. You are certainly welcome to think it, but until such time as it's known, it's just a thought and not reality. No single coach will put his job on the line to take a player they don't feel is better just because some club coach tells them to, and instead go with an unproven player. Seriously, you think that How do you leave your house with conspiracies like this rummaging around in that empty bucket on your shoulders?

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Sounds like a lot of words to say "You don't need to play on a high level team to play at a D1 school" without actually saying it.

You can think whatever you want. You can think there is a NT-level player in Limestone, Maine right now that would blow the socks off any player. You are certainly welcome to think it, but until such time as it's known, it's just a thought and not reality. No single coach will put his job on the line to take a player they don't feel is better just because some club coach tells them to, and instead go with an unproven player. Seriously, you think that How do you leave your house with conspiracies like this rummaging around in that empty bucket on your shoulders?

Ummm... I'm the one saying that you need to be on a highly ranked team and be a stand out player to get noticed by recruiters.

"No single coach will put his job on the line to take a player they don't feel is better just because some club coach"

Happens all the time. College coaches have all kinds of connections into top youth programs. In many clubs there's actually a college liaison whos also working at the college as an assistant coach. This person's getting paid to push the youth clubs players onto the colleges team.

BTW stupid people attack others directly vs going after their positions on topics

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Ummm... I'm the one saying that you need to be on a highly ranked team and be a stand out player to get noticed by recruiters.

"No single coach will put his job on the line to take a player they don't feel is better just because some club coach"

Happens all the time. College coaches have all kinds of connections into top youth programs. In many clubs there's actually a college liaison whos also working at the college as an assistant coach. This person's getting paid to push the youth clubs players onto the colleges team.

BTW stupid people attack others directly vs going after their positions on topics

So, you are saying that because they took a player sent by a club, that player is automatically less skilled then someone in a lesser league. No facts to that, no body of work, just your feelings.

Again, offers came in to my kid, who played on a crappy team, from several directions. Since you are now saying the clubs are a conduit, one of those schools has never had a player from her club before. One, I am not sure of, but three definitely do. And, why not....people hire from known resources all the time.

I won't speak of hypotheticals, I will speak only in facts: You do NOT need to play on a highly ranked team to play in college. And, I'll reiterate, coaches WILL contact you and WILL try to get you to commit, without any conduit from the club. All factual, not hypothetical. Just because you wish it doesn't make it true.

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So, you are saying that because they took a player sent by a club, that player is automatically less skilled then someone in a lesser league. No facts to that, no body of work, just your feelings.

Again, offers came in to my kid, who played on a crappy team, from several directions. Since you are now saying the clubs are a conduit, one of those schools has never had a player from her club before. One, I am not sure of, but three definitely do. And, why not....people hire from known resources all the time.

I won't speak of hypotheticals, I will speak only in facts: You do NOT need to play on a highly ranked team to play in college. And, I'll reiterate, coaches WILL contact you and WILL try to get you to commit, without any conduit from the club. All factual, not hypothetical. Just because you wish it doesn't make it true.

I'll add, my D has a teammate who played on likely the worst ECNL team of all time, and who's club never sent someone to that school before. That girl had (as I was told) ten different offers from schools down the East Coast. How does that happen??

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"Hey coach, how have you been. I wanted to ask you about such and such player. What do you think?"

"She's good, she'll fit your style. I know they had a tough year but she was a bright spot for them."

"Thank you, I trust you opinion as you haven't steered me wrong".


vs.

"Hello Coach, let me introduce myself. I am contacting you from XYZ school and wanted to ask you about such and such a player."

"Oh she's wonderful. We are killing it and she's the leader on the team and we'd never win the backyard rec league without her."

"Great, nice to know. I haven't seen her play against great competition. What can you tell me about how she handles the tough times?"

"There are no tough times. We are killing it, like I said. You should see her play, if you haven't. She can really boot it."


Who do you go with?

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I'll add, my D has a teammate who played on likely the worst ECNL team of all time, and who's club never sent someone to that school before. That girl had (as I was told) ten different offers from schools down the East Coast. How does that happen??

Funny how that happens, ain't it? Good players who market themselves will find homes. Their club team doesn't have to define them.

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Crazy that people are writing about D1 as if they are all the same. There is a huge variation across D1, and every other division.

But then crazy is what TS is all about.

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Crazy that people are writing about D1 as if they are all the same. There is a huge variation across D1, and every other division.

But then crazy is what TS is all about.

Even on many D1 rosters there will be variations from the top 5 starters to thr bottom 5 benchwarmers. Less so at top programs which have deep benches but definitely lower level programs.

Then there's the reality that some D3 teams and players definitely could compete in D1. Not a ton of overlap but ots absolutely there.

Yeah I know, I committed a TS sin saying all of that