Globes HS v.mls story

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REVS / MLSN isn't something you should give up college for let alone HS.

Why/why not?

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You fit the blowing smoke up the backside part of the description. If you are not getting paid, it at least seems to be your hobby.

You can view every Tufts rosters back to 2009. There is no such player. Whoever said that is making things up.

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Boring, predictable yet incorrect response. He would not have needed Revs, or skipping HS, to ride the bench at Tufts.

“pursue a potential professional opportunity” gives it all away, you are part of the con.

If there were say 3 teams in Eastern New England, and they played teams from elsewhere in the Northeast (like ECNL), it might make sense. 7 teams does not make sense.

If it were based on an honest assessment of their skills and potential, it might make sense. Instead, it’s just about filling up seven rosters.

I'm the poster of the "boring, predictable yet incorrect response." My incorrect response was about a GK (who others have suggested probably doesn't actually even exist) who supposedly had smoke blown at him when there were only 3 teams in eastern NE. Nothing to do with filling up 7 rosters.

Not every kid that steps on to a bigger stage (sorry, while probably a lot of fun, your HS is not a big stage) is going to ultimately make it. That fictional kid would not know if he had the "goods" had he not taken that opportunity. If it was the right decision for him, why are you bothered? Unless you are a HS coach dependent on a rich talent pipeline falling in your lap that has now gone dry, I am very confused as to why decisions these kids are making troubles you so much. LMK, I am genuinely curious.

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Boring, predictable yet incorrect response. He would not have needed Revs, or skipping HS, to ride the bench at Tufts.

Class of 2023 Revs commitments:

Boston College x 2
Boston University
Georgetown
Providence
Vermont x 2
Virginia
Wake Forest

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All so they can play at Endicott. Unless you're at the Revs don't succumb to the pressure to do MLSN unless you really don't want HS soccer. It is watered down and the "payoffs " are limited.

Funny because high school kick ball is about as watered down and technically lacking as town youth soccer.

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Not every kid that steps on to a bigger stage (sorry, while probably a lot of fun, your HS is not a big stage) is going to ultimately make it. That fictional kid would not know if he had the "goods" had he not taken that opportunity. If it was the right decision for him, why are you bothered?

1) We are not discussing that kid. We are discussing the article. None of the nitpicking about that changes the core truths here. Anybody who claims to really believe that there are seven rosters full of boys who might have “the goods” in ENE who should take that “opportunity” because it is so much better than the alternatives available to them - well, they are absolutely blowing smoke.

2) The part of your post quoted above is exactly the rationalization for overselling what being on one of these teams can do for a kid. And it’s being sold to way too many boys. Presumably, that is what you tell yourself so you can sleep at night, and not think about how you are running a scam.

3) The right decision for him? Without looking at all the kids who go through the program, you have no idea of what the right decision was for kids. But you should.

4) If there was some honest assessment of the potential of kids at the front end of this program, it would be more than blowing smoke. But with 7 teams it’s a sales effort, not a soccer program.

and let me answer the best subjection you’re about to post, “ the only way they can find out if they have the goods just is to sign up.” Nope.

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Class of 2023 Revs commitments:

Boston College x 2
Boston University
Georgetown
Providence
Vermont x 2
Virginia
Wake Forest

This shows pretty much the opposite of the point you seem to be trying to make.

First, adding more teams doesn’t automatically add more high level talent or a large amount of additional commitments. It won’t be a whole lot different next year or the year after that.

Second, listing just nine commitments, as good as some may be, raises a question. What happened to all the other kids who went through their program, all the kids who started - where did they end up? That’s the only way to know whether these kids made “the right decision for them.”

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1) We are not discussing that kid. We are discussing the article. None of the nitpicking about that changes the core truths here. Anybody who claims to really believe that there are seven rosters full of boys who might have “the goods” in ENE who should take that “opportunity” because it is so much better than the alternatives available to them - well, they are absolutely blowing smoke.

2) The part of your post quoted above is exactly the rationalization for overselling what being on one of these teams can do for a kid. And it’s being sold to way too many boys. Presumably, that is what you tell yourself so you can sleep at night, and not think about how you are running a scam.

3) The right decision for him? Without looking at all the kids who go through the program, you have no idea of what the right decision was for kids. But you should.

4) If there was some honest assessment of the potential of kids at the front end of this program, it would be more than blowing smoke. But with 7 teams it’s a sales effort, not a soccer program.

and let me answer the best subjection you’re about to post, “ the only way they can find out if they have the goods just is to sign up.” Nope.

What D1 schools did your public high school players go on to play soccer at? How many D1 college coaches come to scout the games?

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This shows pretty much the opposite of the point you seem to be trying to make.

First, adding more teams doesn’t automatically add more high level talent or a large amount of additional commitments. It won’t be a whole lot different next year or the year after that.

Second, listing just nine commitments, as good as some may be, raises a question. What happened to all the other kids who went through their program, all the kids who started - where did they end up? That’s the only way to know whether these kids made “the right decision for them.”

To add, you are making a leap that anyone NOT listed here should've just stayed and played HS. You have no idea if that is true or not.

The only fact known is those players are going to those schools. It's not even a known fact they wouldn't have gone to these schools had they not played Revs.

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Second, listing just nine commitments, as good as some may be, raises a question. What happened to all the other kids who went through their program, all the kids who started - where did they end up? That’s the only way to know whether these kids made “the right decision for them.”

I believe every graduating player went to a top D1 college or received a professional contract.

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The only fact known is those players are going to those schools. It's not even a known fact they wouldn't have gone to these schools had they not played Revs.

Every player committed to those schools in the New England played MLS Next and/or attended a prep school.

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To add, you are making a leap that anyone NOT listed here should've just stayed and played HS. You have no idea if that is true or not.

The only fact known is those players are going to those schools. It's not even a known fact they wouldn't have gone to these schools had they not played Revs.

JB from Surf has sent a few boys to D1 programs from public high schools: One to Vermont and another to Stonehill.

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Here are the 64 New England Class of 2023 D1 commitments.

Army 1 Bayside FC/La Salle Academy
Army 1 Northfield Mount Hermon
Army 1 Bayside FC
Bellarmine 1 South Kent School
Boston College 1 Revolution Academy
Boston College 1 Revolution Academy
Boston College 1 South Kent School
Boston College 1 Hartford Athletic Academy/Loomis Chaffee
Boston College 1 Seacoast United
Boston University 1 Revolution Academy
Bryant 1 Bayside FC/LaSalle Academy
Central Conn. State 1 FSA FC
Central Conn. State 1 Beachside SC
Colgate 1 NEFC/Worcester Academy
Colgate 1 Beachside Soccer Club
Dayton 1 Oakwood/Hotchkiss
Fordham 1 South Kent School
Georgetown 1 Revolution Academy
Harvard 1 Boston Bolts/Roxbury Latin
Harvard 1 Boston Bolts/Boston Latin
Holy Cross 1 Boston Bolts/Woburn High School
Lafayette 1 Williston Northampton
Lehigh 1 Seacoast/Brewster Academy
Loyola Marymount 1 South Kent School
Loyola Marymount 1 South Kent School
Merrimack 1 Bridgton Academy
Merrimack 1 Bayside FC
New Hampshire 1 Loomis Chaffee
New Hampshire 1 Seacoast United
New Hampshire 1 Juventus West/Avon Old Farms
New Hampshire 1 Seacoast United
North Carolina 1 Westminster
North Carolina State 1 Williston Northampton
Penn 1 New England Surf
Penn State 1 Boston Bolts
Providence 1 Bayside FC
Providence 1 Boston Bolts/Milton Academy
Providence 1 Bayside FC
Providence 1 Revolution Academy
Providence 1 South Kent
Quinnipiac 1 Avon Old Farms
Rhode Island 1 Bayside FC
Rhode Island 1 Beachside Soccer Club
Rhode Island 1 FSA FC/Conard High School
Rhode Island 1 NEFC/Worcester Academy
Rider 1 Worcester Academy
St. John's 1 Bridgton Academy
St. John's 1 Aztec/Brooks
St. John's 1 Bridgton Academy
Stonehill 1 NEFC/Worcester Academy
Stonehill 1 New England Surf
UConn 1 FSA FC/ Hall
UConn 1 FSA FC/Loomis Chaffee
UMass 1 FSA FC
Vermont 1 Worcester Academy
Vermont 1 Revolution Academy
Vermont 1 Worcester Academy
Vermont 1 Revolution Academy
Virginia 1 Revolution Academy
Virginia Tech 1 Boston Bolts
Wake Forest 1 Revolution Academy
Washington 1 Seacoast United/Brooks
Yale 1 Northfield Mount Hermon
Yale 1 Seacoast United/St. Paul's

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1) We are not discussing that kid. We are discussing the article. None of the nitpicking about that changes the core truths here. Anybody who claims to really believe that there are seven rosters full of boys who might have “the goods” in ENE who should take that “opportunity” because it is so much better than the alternatives available to them - well, they are absolutely blowing smoke.

2) The part of your post quoted above is exactly the rationalization for overselling what being on one of these teams can do for a kid. And it’s being sold to way too many boys. Presumably, that is what you tell yourself so you can sleep at night, and not think about how you are running a scam.

3) The right decision for him? Without looking at all the kids who go through the program, you have no idea of what the right decision was for kids. But you should.

4) If there was some honest assessment of the potential of kids at the front end of this program, it would be more than blowing smoke. But with 7 teams it’s a sales effort, not a soccer program.

and let me answer the best subjection you’re about to post, “ the only way they can find out if they have the goods just is to sign up.” Nope.

I was definitely discussing the fictious kid in my initial post. Not sure who you think I am, but I can assure you I am not that guy.

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To add, you are making a leap that anyone NOT listed here should've just stayed and played HS. You have no idea if that is true or not.

No, it's the poster above that made a leap, that one must sign up. "That fictional kid would not know if he had the "goods" had he not taken that opportunity" was the comment. That is always the rationalization and sales pitch. And in this context, that is presented as the primary justification for this type of program. It claims there are no other good alternatives, and this program will in fact tell you if you have the "goods" in a way you wouldn't know if you didn't sign up, and didn't know going in.