Can someone discuss the benefits of D3 soccer.

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So then you are just a troll? Isn't that even funnier?

nope. keep asking. Im sure you will get great advice from strangers.

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So probably not that demanding. Cool, best of both worlds!

Do you have any data to support the premise that more selective colleges are actually more demanding once enrolled?

I have had 3 kids at 3 tiers of schools including Ivy. Guess what? the one who used soccer to got into Ivy ain’t the smartest, and she has had nowhere near the workload of her sister who went Patriot. Just saying.

Oh, and my son’s lax bro pals (he wasn’t as good as them) who went G’town and Williams… those knuckleheads did just fine.

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This ia a MA focused board. Most people aren't leaving Boston to go live in the middle of Anytown USA. Therefore they will be in professions and cities filled with people who do know Johns Hopkins, MIT, Middlebury, Bowdoin, Williams, Amherst etc. I have been involved with multiple businesses from Fortune 500- start ups that went to IPO. No one cared if you played D1 soccer Baylor or Alcorn State but the certainly cared if you went to Williams or MIT.

Gee-zuss. Took you like 5 days to come up with that answer AND you only proved you answer comments in isolation and have no ability to maintain context. #Dolt.

We’ve moved on. it’s widely accepted that except for select transplants no one knows Bowdoin is a good school is TX nor anywhere in the SEC, or AZ or … You get the point

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At most strong-academic schools, STEM classes (particularly engineering) are graded on a curve (eg. average grade is a B, half the class above it, half the class below it), and those who are just "managing" it, are competing against those who are focused 100% on it. Good luck with that...

Your kid mist have deeply disappointed you, because you try so hard to invalidate the experiences that others have actually had.

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Do you have any data to support the premise that more selective colleges are actually more demanding once enrolled?

I have had 3 kids at 3 tiers of schools including Ivy. Guess what? the one who used soccer to got into Ivy ain’t the smartest, and she has had nowhere near the workload of her sister who went Patriot. Just saying.

Oh, and my son’s lax bro pals (he wasn’t as good as them) who went G’town and Williams… those knuckleheads did just fine.

Cs get degrees. But internships, leadership roles, community service etc get you interviews

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Do you have any data to support the premise that more selective colleges are actually more demanding once enrolled?

I have had 3 kids at 3 tiers of schools including Ivy. Guess what? the one who used soccer to got into Ivy ain’t the smartest, and she has had nowhere near the workload of her sister who went Patriot. Just saying.

Oh, and my son’s lax bro pals (he wasn’t as good as them) who went G’town and Williams… those knuckleheads did just fine.

What are their respective majors?

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Your kid mist have deeply disappointed you, because you try so hard to invalidate the experiences that others have actually had.

What did I say that invalidated anyone else’s experiences?

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What did I say that invalidated anyone else’s experiences?

Your questions continue to imply that D1 athletes are missing out . Some are for sure, but many are doing just fine

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You severely overestimate the brand reach of east coast D3 schools not named MIT and JHU.

^This^ and there's plenty of people on the East Coast who aren't familiar with (or impressed by) the bevy of LACs constantly mentioned on these boards.

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Do you have any data to support the premise that more selective colleges are actually more demanding once enrolled?

I have had 3 kids at 3 tiers of schools including Ivy. Guess what? the one who used soccer to got into Ivy ain’t the smartest, and she has had nowhere near the workload of her sister who went Patriot. Just saying.

Oh, and my son’s lax bro pals (he wasn’t as good as them) who went G’town and Williams… those knuckleheads did just fine.

With respect to Ivy League schools students do not get the benefit of the doubt and must have a high GPA’ and have high test scores. When you said she used soccer to get into Ivy I am not buying especially when you said your daughter is not the smartest. Ivy coaches have lists of players that they will support for admission and the incoming group has to meet the requirements as a group. I know of instances of coaches asking players to retake ACT/SAT so the cumulative average goes up but a kid like yours who you said is not the smartest wouldn’t get into an Ivy soccer that I know of.

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Your questions continue to imply that D1 athletes are missing out . Some are for sure, but many are doing just fine

But all I did was comment on the competitiveness of some STEM majors. How does that invalidate anyone’s experience?

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^This^ and there's plenty of people on the East Coast who aren't familiar with (or impressed by) the bevy of LACs constantly mentioned on these boards.

Why is brand recognition such a big deal to you?

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Why is brand recognition such a big deal to you?

And who cares what thr general public knows? It's about hiring managers and grad school admissions officers. A few years of working and no one cares where you went to school. Better schools open more doors initially. After that it's up to the individual to push ahead

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With respect to Ivy League schools students do not get the benefit of the doubt and must have a high GPA’ and have high test scores. When you said she used soccer to get into Ivy I am not buying especially when you said your daughter is not the smartest. Ivy coaches have lists of players that they will support for admission and the incoming group has to meet the requirements as a group. I know of instances of coaches asking players to retake ACT/SAT so the cumulative average goes up but a kid like yours who you said is not the smartest wouldn’t get into an Ivy soccer that I know of.

Here you go again trying to invalidate people who are only sharing their experiences. I will clarify that “not the smartest” meant of my 3 kids, and I see how that was likely read by most to mean a general statement. She had very good grades and OK test scores. There is absolutely a high standard for Ivy. They asked her for transcripts after freshman year with updates every semester of sophomore year along with test scores taken multiple times sophomore year.

By most standards she was academically strong, and that only met the Ivy floor. I’m pretty confident coach support was necessary for admission. As you point out there is a requirement for The Group to meet the standard. Teams must reflect the standards of the college both on Academic Index (AI) and DEI. Coach made it very clear that she had his/her support, and she should keep taking SAT/ACT to raise scores so the last two recruits could be better soccer players instead of AI boosters. Under this model it is very likely that one family’s experience with Ivy academic standards could be different than anothers based on where they fall in the portfolio

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With respect to Ivy League schools students do not get the benefit of the doubt and must have a high GPA’ and have high test scores. When you said she used soccer to get into Ivy I am not buying especially when you said your daughter is not the smartest. Ivy coaches have lists of players that they will support for admission and the incoming group has to meet the requirements as a group. I know of instances of coaches asking players to retake ACT/SAT so the cumulative average goes up but a kid like yours who you said is not the smartest wouldn’t get into an Ivy soccer that I know of.

Not the poster but Ivies have latitude on admitting athletes that aren't at the same level as regular admits. So do most top schools schools. How much they're willing to bend depends on the school (some wont bend, others a lot), the coach's influence and how badly they want the athlete