Minimum amount of playing time to stay on a team? What is a reasonable expectation/amount to remain? Kid has a spot so that’s not the issue. Deciding to stay and suck if up with minimal playing time, or just play with non club kids in the off season (high school age). Better to not play much or to play a lot but against/with weak competition? Could go to another club but plays other sports every season so it’s hard to fully commit.
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As long as the player meets the criteria pre-defined by the coach, I would say 50% playing minutes.Originally posted by Guest View Post
If the player is unable to meet the coach's criteria, then definitely below 50% and as low as 20%.Comment
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That’s what I’ve been thinking. Driving an hour or two for 20 something is not good. Some players get even less. At a recent tournament some (luckily not mine) didn’t play at all. Nobody on the team is a bad player. Of course some are better but still…Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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I don’t believe the criteria is clearly stated. Will pick my kid and some teammates brains. Hate having to decide winter/next spring play now before the high school season even begins. So many things could change.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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Usually this is made explicit in the contract that you sign with the club, if not you should ask before signing. Now, if you break the contract, for example by not showing up to practices, then zero minutes of playing time is not unheard of. There's a level of commitment that the player must meet in order to earn playing minutes. The idea that your kid should play considerable minutes just because you payed the bill is wrong. It's club soccer right?Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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I've never seen playing time guidelines in a club contract. What clubs have this?Originally posted by Guest View Post
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Never seen it either. I'm skeptical because clubs put the bare minimum in writing so they won't be held accountable.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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If the goal is to stay in shape and competitive for HS, then the questions are what is the high school team like, in terms of quality of players - club players? Good club players? What about the competition in the league? Think about what's right, in light of that.
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Related comment: A couple of years ago, my D's team got a new coach, and he had a preference for bigger/stronger players. My D was definitely on the smaller side, so she started the season coming off the bench and getting significantly less playing time than most of the other players on the team. She wasn't happy about it, so I encouraged her to ask the coach what she needed to do to earn more playing time. He gave her some goals (eg. "win more balls, don't turn the ball over"), and she focused on those things. By mid-season the coach put her in the starting lineup and she was getting more time than about half the team.
Moral of the story is: you can earn more playing time by getting a clear understanding of what the coach wants from you and making real strides to do better at those things. It doesn't always work out, but worth giving it a go even just for the life lesson.Comment
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If your high school age player is on a top team, I'd expect a minimum of 33% but at least 50% for showcases. If you have a scout coming to a particular game, then the coach should play ball with you and keep your kid in longer for that one.Comment
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High school team has many club. Off season team (besides summer) will be weak. Few good players but not many. My kid would be very strong. Great for confidence but not competition.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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No excuse on a less competitive team to not give kids half a game - let alone when families travel far distances and the kids are putting in the effort.Originally posted by Guest View PostComment
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Cool story bro but the thread op's kid has already been there a full season, plus the coach clearly cares more about winning since he sat some players for a tournament. Is that worth grinding out another year? It's probably best to move on. There are plenty of options out there if you're not gunning for the top leagues/teams and want some balance with other life activities. EDP, ECLR, Impact yada yada yadaOriginally posted by Guest View PostComment
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If HS soccer is important to your player, it seems worth trying to find a situation where your player gets better in the spring season. Because most of the rest of the HS team, and the HS team's competition, will be getting better over the winter/spring.Originally posted by Guest View Post
Or maybe there's another sport for the spring.
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