Setting the Record Straight: FC Stars Blue

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The fact that players move “up” from Blue regional to White tells you everything you need to know about the regional “brand.” If you’re nervous about your kid being replaced by a regional kid you should leave the ECNL anyway— a player should welcome the challenge and meet it.

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not true as we know regional players who moved up so maybe you are wrong about other age groups? There’s always movement between u13-u15 from regional up to national.

There isn’t “always” movement up from regional. And after u14, it’s extremely rare.

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Not clear to me what people are trying to claim or counter-claim here. Conversations re: movement and ECRL keep crossing over.
Movement: It heats up in 6th grade and ends entering 9th grade (up, down, over). By HS upward movement is rare, down happens, but players typically choose to switch clubs, and a couple outsiders come in each year.
ECRL: It is the level that it is. No branding changes the actual level, and no college coach has nor will confuse the two. But... there is undoubtedly a halo.

The owners of outside clubs hate The Halo and will disparage ECRL and all parents that buy into The Scam. Why pay more and travel more for the same level?
What these owners don't realize is the product is not soccer development, nor is it convenience/affordability. The product is experience and hope.

Many parents (not all) WANT to pay a premium for the affiliation with and similar experience to ECNL (travel is a +), and they hold out hope that their kid will be The One who benefits from the club-coach network formed around ECNL recruiting. Hey, You never know!

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For the individuals, they want the best possible outcome which is college offers but also being successful now. This is how kids on competitive teams are. It is not zero-sum. They want both.

Stars is/was a good club but they are not PDA, are not competing for national titles and in reality can barely compete for regular season conference wins. Splitting the talent and logistical support across too many teams is detrimental to their brand, but as long as they can fill 4 -5 teams per age group, they will be profitable and thats what counts for them. All this while the kids run around playing in a toxic dustbowl surrounded by storage bins and porta potties. They can and should do better, but as long as the $ rolls in, what is the motivation?

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The product is experience and hope.

Many parents (not all) WANT to pay a premium for the affiliation with and similar experience to ECNL (travel is a +), and they hold out hope that their kid will be The One who benefits from the club-coach network formed around ECNL recruiting. Hey, You never know!

Bookmark that post! Though more accurately, "The product is hope." Because many clubs offer experience, in terms of the soccer, travel tournaments, and team experience.

Interesting because the Lottery is also selling hope. And the odds are very long.

"The product is hope."

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For the individuals, they want the best possible outcome which is college offers but also being successful now. This is how kids on competitive teams are. It is not zero-sum. They want both.

Stars is/was a good club but they are not PDA, are not competing for national titles and in reality can barely compete for regular season conference wins. Splitting the talent and logistical support across too many teams is detrimental to their brand, but as long as they can fill 4 -5 teams per age group, they will be profitable and thats what counts for them. All this while the kids run around playing in a toxic dustbowl surrounded by storage bins and porta potties. They can and should do better, but as long as the $ rolls in, what is the motivation?

PDA serves the NYC area market. Simply put the gene pool is better.
Boston suburbs full of families headed up by beta males and moms who majored in women's studies.

Stars has so many teams because they need to till a lot of fields to yield a crop for Blue to compete nationally.
PDA is working with nutrient rich soil. NJ is full of Alpha males with wives who know how to keep themselves up.
That ethos carries over into the kids.

Stop blaming the dust bowl at Stars - ever been to Zarephath?.
The problem is your weak seed.

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For the individuals, they want the best possible outcome which is college offers but also being successful now. This is how kids on competitive teams are. It is not zero-sum. They want both.

Stars is/was a good club but they are not PDA, are not competing for national titles and in reality can barely compete for regular season conference wins. Splitting the talent and logistical support across too many teams is detrimental to their brand, but as long as they can fill 4 -5 teams per age group, they will be profitable and thats what counts for them. All this while the kids run around playing in a toxic dustbowl surrounded by storage bins and porta potties. They can and should do better, but as long as the $ rolls in, what is the motivation?

The talent is not spread across 4-5 teams. The top talent is consolidated on 1 team, Stars Blue. Some other kids on other teams may be talented but intention is to stack one team. Other points are valid. They have not competed for national finals lately. Conference wins are rare. And yes, Stars is profitable. However, why is national failure caused by profitability? I am 100% positive that the national powerhouse clubs are also profitable. Look at other variables such as population density, soccer culture in other parts of the country, ability to play year round outdoors.

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Zarepath is a swamp, which is sorta better than a toxic dustbowl of silico concrete debris.

The point about beta dads and women's studies major moms is pretty f'ing funny, and unfortunately has too much truth in it.

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The talent is not spread across 4-5 teams. The top talent is consolidated on 1 team, Stars Blue. Some other kids on other teams may be talented but intention is to stack one team. Other points are valid. They have not competed for national finals lately. Conference wins are rare. And yes, Stars is profitable. However, why is national failure caused by profitability? I am 100% positive that the national powerhouse clubs are also profitable. Look at other variables such as population density, soccer culture in other parts of the country, ability to play year round outdoors.

Lots of other variables... #WeakSeed

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PDA serves the NYC area market. Simply put the gene pool is better.
Boston suburbs full of families headed up by beta males and moms who majored in women's studies.

Stars has so many teams because they need to till a lot of fields to yield a crop for Blue to compete nationally.
PDA is working with nutrient rich soil. NJ is full of Alpha males with wives who know how to keep themselves up.
That ethos carries over into the kids.

Stop blaming the dust bowl at Stars - ever been to Zarephath?.
The problem is your weak seed.

Gene pool is bigger not necessarily better. Although your observation about women’s studies is interesting, I believe CA has more women’s study majors and they do quite well.

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Gene pool is bigger not necessarily better. Although your observation about women’s studies is interesting, I believe CA has more women’s study majors and they do quite well.

In Northern CA, yes. But they don't do well soccer widse.
The Good CA playes come from SoCal. You met Trinity Rodman's mom?

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In Northern CA, yes. But they don't do well soccer widse.
The Good CA playes come from SoCal. You met Trinity Rodman's mom?

MVLA far enough north for you?

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We know you are a bitter 07 parent. Success will be the commitments. We will track closely.

Just list the power 5s. Any player can go mid - low major from any club in the state.

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Just list the power 5s. Any player can go mid - low major from any club in the state.

If true, why aren't we seeing that on rosters of those programs?

You know why...it's not true, that's why. Some players? Yes. Any? Comically a real hard NO

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MVLA far enough north for you?

Is that where Trinity's mom lives now?