Thoughts on ODP

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Wrong again...

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What-ever DB, it does happen, believe it or not...sorry your little Mia got the boot.

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Not with...

Dont hold your breathe waiting for a response

...DB's like you trolling around, you'll find a way to disparage whichever club my daughter played for anyway...GAFL moron.

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Something tells me you are a little person. Is there something wrong with bigger players who are also soccer smart?

No, I'm sure there are plenty of big smart soccer players as well. I see smaller players who just happen to be better technically and smarter passed over all the time. Obviously if everything else is equal you're going to go with a larger/stronger player. Unfortunately that is not always the case.

BTW - No my daughter is not a little person nor am I.

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No, I'm sure there are plenty of big smart soccer players as well. I see smaller players who just happen to be better technically and smarter passed over all the time. Obviously if everything else is equal you're going to go with a larger/stronger player. Unfortunately that is not always the case.

BTW - No my daughter is not a little person nor am I.

All the time where? Sounds like your stretching to try and make your point.

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...DB's like you trolling around, you'll find a way to disparage whichever club my daughter played for anyway...GAFL moron.

Classic. I did not "disparage" any club. I just predicted that you would not disclose any club to the poster because I thought your original post was a bunch of crap

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Bottom line is if your child wants to play beyond high school, they should be doing much more than just club practices to get there. The truly dedicated, soccer loving kid will be asking to do more. Three hours a week of practice and a weekly game is not going to do it. If that's all your child wants to do then perhaps they can play in High School but anything beyond that is unlikely.

Who said anything about 2 hrs. of practice a week the club/team that my daughter plays for does 3 two hr.practices a week plus games and scrimm. and to be honest it is alot when ur talking about school work, honors classes, homework. She is already verbally comit. to a top D1 school and with the intensity of the soccer she participates in u need some down time because of the injury factor.

U people who say play, play, play 24/7 are insane. It is not always the frequency but the intensity and burn out is intense. U talk about the players as if they are machines-stick with ur ODP it will get u nowhere just a waste of time IMO.

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ODP is a rip off plain and simple. You start off with this nomenclature "Olympic" which is the biggest joke then go on to "Develope" which just chokes you up because there is none and then deal with the bogus coaches with the cell phones glued for the select parents.

Thing of the past being run into the ground for paying parents to make them feel warm and toasty with a "look what my kid can do".
A subjective process (yea compare it to NHS you bozo) which gives the kids someplace to go and kick a ball, make friends and feel elite and on the road to soccer stardom.

Every once in a while a truely good player sticks with ODP and they become their poster child but the trend is to go toward the training clubs can provide the competitive level teams for developement. I also understand why some clubs frown on ODP because of the bad habits that are fostered there for the "ID" process.
What top college or I'll say it NT coach wants a player who can't think soccer and play team?

Best post on this thread and I agree 100%.

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Best post on this thread and I agree 100%.

Thanks for your vote, little guy.

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It funny, you sound aweful like the parent side who just quit because it's clear your daughter wasn't getting far with the process.

If a player can't think soccer and play team it's most likely a issue with the club they are on and they are most likely not getting the training they need. I agree for the boys side there is many other paths but on the girls side it is not soo much. ECNL is definately a option for the girls but then you need to get into there ID process too.

I agree that the naming should be more Massachusett State pool rather than ODP. That would be more accurate in many ways. Once a kid is selected for regional then it should be called ODP regional team.

The bottomline, pick your poision the US Soccer or US Club soccer path. Ultimately the kids goals are all over the place and if doesn't work for you than so be it. You can tell me 1000 times ODP is dead but statistics show otherwise.

As college coach told us, "It's like trying to tell me the US PGA is dead and the European PGA is the way to go. It's a matter of what works for you." They are very aware that the talent pool has spread out now. Certain years is stornger in either one of the two paths and tend to draw the talent. Neither path has all of them and they are aware some don't even try to move up either paths due to family situations.

You can spew what you want all over the place but the reality is that there very strong players in the program called ODP. Keep developing in your time away from the club or ODP scene because that is going to be the edge in the long run. If your kid is hoping the few practices a week with club is enough than you are very very wrong. I doubt those who make it to the final stage sit around when they are not with their club. I'm sure they are working constantly to stay on top or someone with better workethic will quickly take their spot.

Can't help but wonder what age bracket you are involved with because all your college coach advise was at odds with the colleges we spoke with who stressed off time to be used towards academics/GPA/ SAT results not to add in more soccer. As a matter of fact most college coaches were concerned of overuse injuries. My daughter is early in the final stage of the recruiting and gratefully done and happy. She only dealt with the most competitive D1 schools.

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Can't help but wonder what age bracket you are involved with because all your college coach advise was at odds with the colleges we spoke with who stressed off time to be used towards academics/GPA/ SAT results not to add in more soccer. As a matter of fact most college coaches were concerned of overuse injuries. My daughter is early in the final stage of the recruiting and gratefully done and happy. She only dealt with the most competitive D1 schools.

Different poster here.

I don't doubt what you say they told you, but their idea if overuse and tours is likely to be very different. Ask them for a copy of their summer workout and I suspect you will quickly see exactly how much they expect you to be doing.

Overall it might be a slight decrease in time but a bi increase in intensity. Better that your daughter learn to put out that effort now when she has time to adjust, than wait until the summer before freshman year and fun out too late how hard they expected her to be working.

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Different poster here.

I don't doubt what you say they told you, but their idea if overuse and tours is likely to be very different. Ask them for a copy of their summer workout and I suspect you will quickly see exactly how much they expect you to be doing.

Overall it might be a slight decrease in time but a bi increase in intensity. Better that your daughter learn to put out that effort now when she has time to adjust, than wait until the summer before freshman year and fun out too late how hard they expected her to be working.

ODP is certainly not that increase in intensity!
Without a doubt the intensity of the college programs are there but include work with PT, gym strength, core training, flexability and so forth. Absolutely not all repetitive ACL-MCL/pulled hamstring soccer prone injury year round.

I know of one girl who on breaks from school/team loses 5 to 10 lbs without trying just because. Anyone watch those Fairfax girls u-tube soccer clips-soccer jeans.

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Can't help but wonder what age bracket you are involved with because all your college coach advise was at odds with the colleges we spoke with who stressed off time to be used towards academics/GPA/ SAT results not to add in more soccer. As a matter of fact most college coaches were concerned of overuse injuries. My daughter is early in the final stage of the recruiting and gratefully done and happy. She only dealt with the most competitive D1 schools.

Love the denial of the intent behind the post. I don't think anyone who has been through it all would even remotely tell anyone that the school piece is not important. It is. Very! So isn't being in being in shape and building speed of play. Don't diminish what is expected at the next level. Anyone who has children playing in college at the D1 level can tell you that they spend a ton of time in the weight room in the off season and that a basic expectation is improve or be gone.

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Love the denial of the intent behind the post. I don't think anyone who has been through it all would even remotely tell anyone that the school piece is not important. It is. Very! So isn't being in being in shape and building speed of play. Don't diminish what is expected at the next level. Anyone who has children playing in college at the D1 level can tell you that they spend a ton of time in the weight room in the off season and that a basic expectation is improve or be gone.

I think we have had enough "thoughts" on ODP. It's good for some but, not for all. Let's move on and celebrate our Holidays with our kids while they are home with us. Enjoy!

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I think we have had enough "thoughts" on ODP. It's good for some but, not for all. Let's move on and celebrate our Holidays with our kids while they are home with us. Enjoy!

Op here, thanks for stating this because its obvious I'm not going to gather much from this. There is to many agendas in youth soccer i guess. Is it this bad in lacrosse?

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Op here, thanks for stating this because its obvious I'm not going to gather much from this. There is to many agendas in youth soccer i guess. Is it this bad in lacrosse?

What are you talking about?!?

Without agendas you would get nothing because nobody would care. You have gotten a lot of good information in this thread. It's up to you to make a decision based on the information given - nobody can tell you what is right for your situation.