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    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    I think today I'm seeing a big light in the rabbit hole now. I went into one and it was pitch black. My wife said you must go through the darkness in order to find the Light. Soccer and school in socal ((not all distrcts)) will be open and sports might be played after all. I want to give you some hope. Not fluff. I said hole in one of a chance last week if we play this fall. I got some news this morning that made the odds go to just landing on the green. However, it's this green and you only get once chance. If you miss the green, you die. Football can wait until after New Years. Futbol should be played in September ((Surf Cup?)) or ECNL League games in November. That gives all the goats in Socal 5 weeks to get their bodies in soccer shape. Right now, CO, AZ, NV and Texas will kick our asses and we will have zero YNT picks. We’re getting too far behind on the woman side.
    That classification I don't necessarily agree with, low risk would be more appropriate. Let's work with everyone to prove youth soccer is low risk and get things open back up and soccer reclassified. Do your part, follow through, going rouge doesn't help the cause. Mass is where it is partly because people & politicians don't work together better or care enough about making positive change, would rather argue or get on social media to rant about some narrow points of view. Change the narrative, find solutions not problems, debate is fine, vote and interact with the political process to make the changes you think are needed.

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      Originally posted by Guest View Post

      That classification I don't necessarily agree with, low risk would be more appropriate. Let's work with everyone to prove youth soccer is low risk and get things open back up and soccer reclassified. Do your part, follow through, going rouge doesn't help the cause. Mass is where it is partly because people & politicians don't work together better or care enough about making positive change, would rather argue or get on social media to rant about some narrow points of view. Change the narrative, find solutions not problems, debate is fine, vote and interact with the political process to make the changes you think are needed.
      Playing in a specific league isn't a golden ticket - but ECNL apparently manages to send many more girls than GA to D1, accounting for the different populations. ECNL-girls shows as only 27% more clubs, but well over twice the D1 recruits. Seeing as ECNL dominates the top 10, the top 50, and the top 100, this aligns with the thinking that the better team you're on, the more visibility you will have, and the better the chances for recruitment. Does that mean nobody else has a chance? Of course not - not by a long shot. But assuming there are equal chances available across the board doesn't match the easily available info. What the numbers can't show as easily, is for when the specific choices for a player are between a weaker team in a strong bracket, or a stronger team in a weak bracket - which would provide more exposure for a particular player. And another hard to answer conundrum is whether it's better to be a standout starter on a weaker team, or a more marginal player on the best team available.

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        Originally posted by Guest View Post

        Playing in a specific league isn't a golden ticket - but ECNL apparently manages to send many more girls than GA to D1, accounting for the different populations. ECNL-girls shows as only 27% more clubs, but well over twice the D1 recruits. Seeing as ECNL dominates the top 10, the top 50, and the top 100, this aligns with the thinking that the better team you're on, the more visibility you will have, and the better the chances for recruitment. Does that mean nobody else has a chance? Of course not - not by a long shot. But assuming there are equal chances available across the board doesn't match the easily available info. What the numbers can't show as easily, is for when the specific choices for a player are between a weaker team in a strong bracket, or a stronger team in a weak bracket - which would provide more exposure for a particular player. And another hard to answer conundrum is whether it's better to be a standout starter on a weaker team, or a more marginal player on the best team available.
        ECRL does play the same days as ECNL for league games, as others have mentioned. However; most ECRL clubs in ns get shortchanged on the showcase side. There are fewer showcases for ECRL teams compared to the 3 required showcases for ECNL clubs to attend each season. Just last year, ECRL finally had a national playoff (only for the teams who finished in 1st place in their respective league; whereas ECNL invites 44 teams to the “Champions League” playoffs followed by another trip to the Berkshires for the final 8 playoffs (except for the oldest age group who finish the playoffs the same week as the Champions League). So they finally added dedicated ECRL showcases last year, probably in response to the well-organized GA showcases that were attracting ECRL players in hopes of getting exposure. To answer your questions directly, the exposure level is not even close. ECNL, by far, gets the most exposure. The big clubs in north shore have much better ECRL teams than the weaker clubs. These big club players are sometimes getting moved up to the ECNL teams (Bayside, Surf, Bolts) and these big club ECRL teams will beat most of the lesser clubs‘ ECNL sides and nearly all the Socal GA teams. As the players age up around u16 in ECRL, that’s when they realize that exposure to college coaches is lacking, and they start to drive to the weaker ECNL clubs to get that exposure at Showcases. For the most part, if you are going the ECRL route, the best way to get in front of a coach is at the institutions’s ID camp. Lastly, ECRL and ECNL annual costs are the same at the majority of red states.

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          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          ECRL does play the same days as ECNL for league games, as others have mentioned. However; most ECRL clubs in ns get shortchanged on the showcase side. There are fewer showcases for ECRL teams compared to the 3 required showcases for ECNL clubs to attend each season. Just last year, ECRL finally had a national playoff (only for the teams who finished in 1st place in their respective league; whereas ECNL invites 44 teams to the “Champions League” playoffs followed by another trip to the Berkshires for the final 8 playoffs (except for the oldest age group who finish the playoffs the same week as the Champions League). So they finally added dedicated ECRL showcases last year, probably in response to the well-organized GA showcases that were attracting ECRL players in hopes of getting exposure. To answer your questions directly, the exposure level is not even close. ECNL, by far, gets the most exposure. The big clubs in north shore have much better ECRL teams than the weaker clubs. These big club players are sometimes getting moved up to the ECNL teams (Bayside, Surf, Bolts) and these big club ECRL teams will beat most of the lesser clubs‘ ECNL sides and nearly all the Socal GA teams. As the players age up around u16 in ECRL, that’s when they realize that exposure to college coaches is lacking, and they start to drive to the weaker ECNL clubs to get that exposure at Showcases. For the most part, if you are going the ECRL route, the best way to get in front of a coach is at the institutions’s ID camp. Lastly, ECRL and ECNL annual costs are the same at the majority of red states.
          If the goal is to play college soccer, a player can do that with any team they are on frankly. It just depends how much work your kid is willing to do on their own (contacting coaches, attending tons of ID camps, etc) and if they are willing to be realistic and very flexible about the college, college location and level. You as a parent also have to be willing to drive them, support them, etc. An ECRL team may be the right fit and with the right outreach and realistic college goals, it is the best scenario for them. I honestly don’t think ECRL as an overall label will give more exposure than a NPL team, for example. It’s all about how your kid markets themselves.

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            Originally posted by Guest View Post

            If the goal is to play college soccer, a player can do that with any team they are on frankly. It just depends how much work your kid is willing to do on their own (contacting coaches, attending tons of ID camps, etc) and if they are willing to be realistic and very flexible about the college, college location and level. You as a parent also have to be willing to drive them, support them, etc. An ECRL team may be the right fit and with the right outreach and realistic college goals, it is the best scenario for them. I honestly don’t think ECRL as an overall label will give more exposure than a NPL team, for example. It’s all about how your kid markets themselves.
            I thought ECRL was better than GA now? We had an offer for an ECRL team and Surf RI GA. We chose the ECRL team as we heard GA is collapsing and ECRL is now the route for D2 commits.

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              What D2 schools are also good academically?

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                Is Ted Cruz the Zodiac?

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                  Originally posted by Guest View Post
                  What D2 schools are also good academically?
                  This talk of good academically needs to stop. So much BS on your kid going to ivys or colleges with high academics and play soccer… I’ve become friends with people who have graduated from Harvard, Cornell, BC, Yale and URI, UMass, .. no difference in success, happiness, etc. We all work for the same types of companies in finance, play golf, and doing well. No matter where your kid attends college, if they graduate, make connections, do internships they will be successful as well. Side note if our kid chooses Biomed major she will not be playing soccer. Can’t balance the tough majors and play college soccer.

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                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    This talk of good academically needs to stop. So much BS on your kid going to ivys or colleges with high academics and play soccer… I’ve become friends with people who have graduated from Harvard, Cornell, BC, Yale and URI, UMass, .. no difference in success, happiness, etc. We all work for the same types of companies in finance, play golf, and doing well. No matter where your kid attends college, if they graduate, make connections, do internships they will be successful as well. Side note if our kid chooses Biomed major she will not be playing soccer. Can’t balance the tough majors and play college soccer.
                    Totally misleading and frankly dishonest.

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                      Some people believe there is life after soccer because they aren’t going pro and want a rigorous academic curriculum and play soccer. Nobody said it had to be ivys but the statement above that they are all equal is incorrect.

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                        Originally posted by Guest View Post
                        Some people believe there is life after soccer because they aren’t going pro and want a rigorous academic curriculum and play soccer. Nobody said it had to be ivys but the statement above that they are all equal is incorrect.
                        Equal outcomes end of day. Can be just as successful and most importantly happy coming from any college. It’s not the college you attend that makes you successful. It’s the choices you make in college, any college.

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                          I come from a family in which we all have various degrees from various colleges. Your “high academic” to your state school. Not one person stands out as the better off one due to a better college. Some are better parents, some have slightly bigger homes, but end of the day we are all basically in the same place. The focus on kids getting into the “right” college is insane. Let your player choose the college based on their economic, and most importantly future plans.

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                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            Equal outcomes end of day. Can be just as successful and most importantly happy coming from any college. It’s not the college you attend that makes you successful. It’s the choices you make in college, any college.
                            Same could be said of club soccer. Can be just as good at soccer and happy playing in any league, in any club (or no club at all). And yet here we are.

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                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              This talk of good academically needs to stop. So much BS on your kid going to ivys or colleges with high academics and play soccer… I’ve become friends with people who have graduated from Harvard, Cornell, BC, Yale and URI, UMass, .. no difference in success, happiness, etc. We all work for the same types of companies in finance, play golf, and doing well. No matter where your kid attends college, if they graduate, make connections, do internships they will be successful as well. Side note if our kid chooses Biomed major she will not be playing soccer. Can’t balance the tough majors and play college soccer.
                              Ivies are not what they used to be.

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                                The question is specific to D2. Lets hear these D2 schools where kids are successful after? Some state school are good academically but usually not D2

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