Stars White and Scorpions ECNL are Watered Down Crap

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C’mon. Hell 05 beat Starts Blue 05 Regional 1-0 and it wasn’t even that close. Nobody considers that club much of a danger.

White Nationals scrimmage up v the Regionals and always win. Never mind playing v same age group

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Stars white have some problems but everyone knows that Scorpions are nothing but a farm team.

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Stars white have some problems but everyone knows that Scorpions are nothing but a farm team.

True.

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White Nationals scrimmage up v the Regionals and always win. Never mind playing v same age group

NPL teams beat the regionals. What’s your point?

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Not necessarily true. Depending on the age bracket, white national is closer to blue or white regional than to blue national. In any case, FC Stars ECNL White is probably in average one of the worst ECNL teams in the region:
U13: 9/9
U14: 9/9
U15: 6/9
U16: 8/9
U17: 6/9
U18/19: 7/9

Facts. Truth.

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C’mon. Hell 05 beat Starts Blue 05 Regional 1-0 and it wasn’t even that close. Nobody considers that club much of a danger.

White Nationals scrimmage up v the Regionals and always win. Never mind playing v same age group

Don't let this lady get to you. She has a major axe to grind with Stars. It didnt end well. She lasted a year with the scorpions before it became evident she wasn’t welcomed back and now onto NEFC so take umbrance in the fact that there will be a thread about Stars Scorpions and NEFC come this time next year.

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Parents are really starting to learn that ECNL means nothing if you're not in ECNL Champions League, cause there and only there is where you find the scouting machine.

And with Scorpion's recent descent into lower mediocrity, parents have figured out that even GA is a better landing spot (assuming you make GA Champions League).

Note: Stars White parents get to hold out hope of moving to Blue. Otherwise, they'd be better off at GA too.

This. Blue or bust.

But Blue would rather look to other clubs for talent (for good reason)

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This. Blue or bust.

But Blue would rather look to other clubs for talent (for good reason)

Stop with this nonsensical knock about developing talent - on any club. In the u-little ages, families choose whatever club is convenient. Each club ‘develops’ their own little crop of 2-5 great players based mainly on dumb luck of who walks through the door. Then when that little core moves to 9v9 and 11v11, the surrounding cast can’t keep up and they move to GA or ECNL. It is true of all clubs. Stars or NEFC don’t have some magic to turn every 6yo that walks through their door into studs, nor do they have any lesser ability than any other club. Most of the youth development depends on the individual kids genetics, desire and work ethic.

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Stop with this nonsensical knock about developing talent - on any club. In the u-little ages, families choose whatever club is convenient. Each club ‘develops’ their own little crop of 2-5 great players based mainly on dumb luck of who walks through the door. Then when that little core moves to 9v9 and 11v11, the surrounding cast can’t keep up and they move to GA or ECNL. It is true of all clubs. Stars or NEFC don’t have some magic to turn every 6yo that walks through their door into studs, nor do they have any lesser ability than any other club. Most of the youth development depends on the individual kids genetics, desire and work ethic.

One of the few things that TS agrees on is that coaching is critically important to development. It varies wildly by club, especially between the bigger clubs and the mom and pop clubs. In case you didn't figure it out, this means most people will say you're wrong. I hope you find that helpful and informative...

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One of the few things that TS agrees on is that coaching is critically important to development. It varies wildly by club, especially between the bigger clubs and the mom and pop clubs. In case you didn't figure it out, this means most people will say you're wrong. I hope you find that helpful and informative...

You want to avoid bad coaches but beyond that I think you are overstating this. Look through an ECNL roster and identify which initial club the kid came from. You will find certain clubs represented more than others but that is likely because the family gravitated to a known name. Among the others you will find many smaller clubs. Some of which most people have disregarded as poorer clubs. People bash Bayside constantly and yet there are bayside kids on rosters. Capital Alliance, FCUSA, Green Lions, Liverpool etc…

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You want to avoid bad coaches but beyond that I think you are overstating this. Look through an ECNL roster and identify which initial club the kid came from. You will find certain clubs represented more than others but that is likely because the family gravitated to a known name. Among the others you will find many smaller clubs. Some of which most people have disregarded as poorer clubs. People bash Bayside constantly and yet there are bayside kids on rosters. Capital Alliance, FCUSA, Green Lions, Liverpool etc…

Sure, if you go back far enough. That's the idea of not every club having a team in certain leagues. They aggregate talent.

Half our current roster are Stars lifers, but the others came from all over when they were young. 90% have been w/ Stars for the last 4 years in some capacity, though

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There appear to be a few knowledgeable parties in this thread, so I wonder if we can switch gears and actually chat about this. Some of these teams we're speaking of will have players who have had the same coach for multiple consecutive years. Then you have this OP example that will likely have 6 to 7 coaches by the time she starts playing in Mendon. Whether you're with a great coach or a mediocre one, isn't it beneficial to experience some diversity?

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There appear to be a few knowledgeable parties in this thread, so I wonder if we can switch gears and actually chat about this. Some of these teams we're speaking of will have players who have had the same coach for multiple consecutive years. Then you have this OP example that will likely have 6 to 7 coaches by the time she starts playing in Mendon. Whether you're with a great coach or a mediocre one, isn't it beneficial to experience some diversity?

Is it? Lots of people say that, but we may be shopping for clubs if/when our current coach stops coaching our younger kid's team. Best of the several coaches either of our two kids has ever had, by far.

In some cases, the HS coach might provide another coaching perspective. There are some good ones.

Unfortunately our HS program has a coach whose style is kick and run ... oops, I mean, "direct." Which worked when he was lucky enough to have 2-3 absolute superstars, but doesn't work against the top competitors with the current players, who are merely very good to excellent.

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There appear to be a few knowledgeable parties in this thread, so I wonder if we can switch gears and actually chat about this. Some of these teams we're speaking of will have players who have had the same coach for multiple consecutive years. Then you have this OP example that will likely have 6 to 7 coaches by the time she starts playing in Mendon. Whether you're with a great coach or a mediocre one, isn't it beneficial to experience some diversity?

I'd say that a club should move players through different coaches as they age (every 2 years or so) but the play style should be consistent within the club.

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I'd say that a club should move players through different coaches as they age (every 2 years or so) but the play style should be consistent within the club.

Two years is kind of the guideline . Not every coach is good with all age groups, but also it's good for players to have different coaching styles etc.