Stars White and Scorpions ECNL are Watered Down Crap

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This thread is what’s wrong with scorpions. Sorry you f’d up and lost a player who smartened up and walked away from the nonsense. Grow up. Signed, someone who knows what happened. Step away from this thread coach or it’s on blast.

the girl who’s mother started this thread was not offered a spot for next year whether she wanted to come back or not is irrelevant. She didnt start and was probably like 8th or 9th best player. Im sure Scorpions will be just fine without her.

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Not sure why Stars White or Scorpions even exist in ECNL other than for a gross money grab. Seriously, in every single age bracket these two teams are bottom dwellers. Every age group in BOTH ECNLN and ECNLR. What's the point? Why do it? Are you just trying to ruin soccer for a bunch of girls? Take a look at the U16 ECNL Regional team for Scorpions, the situation is really bad with 71 goals conceded and only 10 scored. In total across all age groups Stars White ECNL National have a combined goal differential of -149. Scorpions ECNL National across all age groups have a combined goal differential of -23. Stars White ECNL Regional teams across all age groups have a combined goal differential of -57 while Scorpions ECNL Regional teams have a combined goal differential of -93. This is not good for girls soccer. Just drop these teams down a level to fair competition so these players can grow and enjoy the game. This beyond concerning.

Just feel bad for the person who wakes up
early in the morning and the first thing they do is post negative about other clubs. Imagine being this angry? I cant Ok you convinced me not to go Stars or Scorpions. Thank you very much. Hopefully whoever posted this got their hate out and will get a good nights sleep.

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Not sure why Stars White or Scorpions even exist in ECNL other than for a gross money grab. Seriously, in every single age bracket these two teams are bottom dwellers. Every age group in BOTH ECNLN and ECNLR. What's the point? Why do it? Are you just trying to ruin soccer for a bunch of girls? Take a look at the U16 ECNL Regional team for Scorpions, the situation is really bad with 71 goals conceded and only 10 scored. In total across all age groups Stars White ECNL National have a combined goal differential of -149. Scorpions ECNL National across all age groups have a combined goal differential of -23. Stars White ECNL Regional teams across all age groups have a combined goal differential of -57 while Scorpions ECNL Regional teams have a combined goal differential of -93. This is not good for girls soccer. Just drop these teams down a level to fair competition so these players can grow and enjoy the game. This beyond concerning.

so ex stars and scorpions lady what's your suggestion? Are you personally going to petition the ECNL board to move Stars and Scorpions down to the GA or IMPACT? That would not go well for you since Stars has a ton of say in ECNL. Good luck though. You can do it!

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For New England (picture below as a triangle)

Top
#1 Stars Blue National
#2 GA (NEFC or SSS depending on birth year)

Middle-Top
#3 Stars White National
#4 Scorpions National

Middle
#5 Stars ECNL Regional teams (ECRL) and IMPACT teams
#6 EDP, DPL ODP, all the rest of the alphabet soup

Bottom (90% of players)
All other regional teams, NECSL
Local Town competitive travel teams.

That's the order for the u little parents in New England.
Don't worry about the rest of the garbage on this thread.
Elite 64 might get added to this but they are to knew to rank.

Look at Regional White AND blue's ECRL scores - They lose to that "alphabet soup" often.

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Parents are really starting to learn that ECNL means nothing if you're not in ECNL Champions League, cause there and only there is where you find the scouting machine.

And with Scorpion's recent descent into lower mediocrity, parents have figured out that even GA is a better landing spot (assuming you make GA Champions League).

Note: Stars White parents get to hold out hope of moving to Blue. Otherwise, they'd be better off at GA too.

Stars White parent here. Parent of a kid who came from GA, played 5 games in ECNL, got seen by the D1 school she was pursuing, and has accepted their generous offer. In summary, your post is pure bullshlt.

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i am quite certain Scorpions has a winning record vs. Stars White in both ECNL and ECNL-R and it isn't close

Split in our age group this year.

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Stars White parent here. Parent of a kid who came from GA, played 5 games in ECNL, got seen by the D1 school she was pursuing, and has accepted their generous offer. In summary, your post is pure bullshlt.

Congrats to your D.

What percentage of her team got scholarships to D1?
What percentage of Stars Blue got scholarships to D1?
What percentage of NEFC GA got scholarships to D1?

I'd also like to point out you admit your D spent 99% of her career at GA, but you're giving all credit to ECNL club. Aren't you a peach?

BS, I think not.

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For New England (picture below as a triangle)

Top
#1 Stars Blue National
#2 GA (NEFC or SSS depending on birth year)

Middle-Top
#3 Stars White National
#4 Scorpions National

Middle
#5 Stars ECNL Regional teams (ECRL) and IMPACT teams
#6 EDP, DPL ODP, all the rest of the alphabet soup

Bottom (90% of players)
All other regional teams, NECSL
Local Town competitive travel teams.

That's the order for the u little parents in New England.
Don't worry about the rest of the garbage on this thread.
Elite 64 might get added to this but they are to knew to rank.

This is generally valid.

I'd say DPL is equivalent to Impact and ECRL but it's a quibble.

Think of how much better that Middle tier would be with just a single NPL league.

Imagine if USYS actually stayed in their lane, which is that bottom tier representing 90% of youth soccer? Elite64 is a pitiful money grab.

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Congrats to your D.

What percentage of her team got scholarships to D1?
What percentage of Stars Blue got scholarships to D1?
What percentage of NEFC GA got scholarships to D1?

I'd also like to point out you admit your D spent 99% of her career at GA, but you're giving all credit to ECNL club. Aren't you a peach?

BS, I think not.

I don't know as I don't talk about financials with other parents. Do you? Right now half of the age group are committed
I don't know as I don't know any of the Blue parents, but I believe it's over half so far, with most (not all) going to "better" soccer schools than White
I don't know as I don't know any parents from NEFC so how would I, or anyone, know their scholarship situation? I have no direct correlation to NEFC, other than playing my D playing them 2-3 times per year (with just about a .500 record in that time)

I've stated in the past, her GA team developed her, but her ECNL team got her recruited. Sad fact, but true. I really wish it were different as we enjoyed our time there. But, if a club develops a player in the woods, and nobody is there to see it, does it matter? As for being a peach, better to be one than eat one, right Duane Allman?

More importantly, a statement was made, I provided details that proved it to be incorrect. No more, no less.

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You're all over the map. R teams is a separate issue than ECNL teams being watered down. R teams are simply the old NPL league rebranded under the ECNL umbrella (not every region had that set up under NPL but now it's consistent across all clubs). It's the league's B teams. Most of the players are B league players, so eliminating R teams won't really help improve the level of play in ECNLO.

Is ECNL watered down? Perhaps, not really, who knows. The landscape is watered down overall with too many leagues and not enough talent. ECNL didn't introduce GDA/GAL, GDA did. ECNL/R didn't introduce EDP, EDP did. Each league is battling it out for talent and supremacy. The good thing for the consumer is they have lots of options. The bad thing for consumers is it's hard to read the landscape and figure out where your kid belongs.

It's obvious the intention of this bitter person who started this thread was to get parents fighting with each other. Whoever started this thread should seek help. I've found your posts and reposts quite on the money in the past day. Thoughtful and non confrontational. I'm sure it makes the OP angered, but oh well. Good luck and well done.

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It's obvious the intention of this bitter person who started this thread was to get parents fighting with each other. Whoever started this thread should seek help. I've found your posts and reposts quite on the money in the past day. Thoughtful and non confrontational. I'm sure it makes the OP angered, but oh well. Good luck and well done.

aw thanks...I'm blushing lol

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Congrats to your D.

What percentage of her team got scholarships to D1?
What percentage of Stars Blue got scholarships to D1?
What percentage of NEFC GA got scholarships to D1?

I'd also like to point out you admit your D spent 99% of her career at GA, but you're giving all credit to ECNL club. Aren't you a peach?

BS, I think not.

Obviously not that poster but

- easy enough for you to look up where players wind up and more importantly whether or not they actually have successful college careers
- no one knows scholarship info but the family and school and there's a kazillion different variables at play
- if families are happy with their individual outcomes, who give a crap but them? If they landed a spot at a fantastic D3 they love is that a worse outcome than getting book money at Branch State Campus U?

Clearly you are a bitter GAL club owner that doesn't like losing players to ECNL. Improve your product and more might stay.

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aw thanks...I'm blushing lol

yah sometimes, yes even on this dumpster called ts, facts do outweigh bitter opinions of someone that has an ax to grind. I often wonder what is the point of a parent obviously so angry over club soccer that they would post such an unhinged post? Never makes sense to me. I feel bad for this OP. I know they are really been on the brunt of the responses, but there seems to be a deep ceded problem here. My honest thoughts would be to advise the OP to get off of ts as soon as possible! Sad just sad.

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'Don't worry mom, after she fails to break through the core of that NEFC team who've played together since they were 7, there's still Bayside. You are Bayside angry through and through.

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yah sometimes, yes even on this dumpster called ts, facts do outweigh bitter opinions of someone that has an ax to grind. I often wonder what is the point of a parent obviously so angry over club soccer that they would post such an unhinged post? Never makes sense to me. I feel bad for this OP. I know they are really been on the brunt of the responses, but there seems to be a deep ceded problem here. My honest thoughts would be to advise the OP to get off of ts as soon as possible! Sad just sad.

You should feel worse for their kid. Angry bitter parents more often than not produce angry bitter offspring. No doubt a cut player will be hurt, but a parent stewing mad over it isn't going to help them get over it and move on