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    Have to figure the only reason someone would fight so hard to deny the costs is they don't want their wife to find out how much they spent on soccer just so Johnny can ride the pine at Babson.

    Don't know where everyone lives but Wellesley to Foxboro is 22 miles one way and Westboro to Newton is 26. We all know people driving greater distances than that. Federal mileage rate is $.555 this year. 7000 miles for soccer in a year is not a crazy number. No one is spending a heck of a lot less than that unless they live at the fields.

    If you look at that budget the thing that drives the cost so high is the private stuff. That is were it really gets nuts but 2 practices a week is not going to get it done if you really are chasing a scholly. One thing they forgot is they didn't put the cost for recruiting camps in. Those add up quickly.

    If you are chasing the dream no way you are not opening your wallet wide.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Discuss away. Every person who visits the site should read these dire warnings -- from someone who elects to pay 30K apparently but won't respond to that -- at least 10 times a day and on as many threads as possible. And we should make up some stories about other kids on our team paying even more than 4K year for gas. The truly fascinating thing is what you of all people are doing here all the time. You are like a guy passing out religious pamphlets on the street. Shouldn't you be mapping out strategies for your next bball game or trying to get reduced-rate tickets for your next national event?
      No, instead we should ignore reality so everyone can line up like leemings. Cost is a legit issue. If money doesn't factor into your decision then you should just ignore the posts about it. Pretty simple actually.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Because the clubs to NOT pay zero money for those fields!
        As somebody who seems to know, would you please
        tell us how much they pay.I am sure the clubs who
        use the city facility's at Millineum field must be
        paying big fees to the city right? Why are these
        for profit teams allowed to use these facility's
        in the first place?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          As somebody who seems to know, would you please
          tell us how much they pay.I am sure the clubs who
          use the city facility's at Millineum field must be
          paying big fees to the city right? Why are these
          for profit teams allowed to use these facility's
          in the first place?
          Youth soccer is a business now. You should know how Boston works. Someone paid someone to look the other way. Pretty simple solution actually. If you think you are getting screwed because of that, move to another club.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Youth soccer is a business now. You should know how Boston works. Someone paid someone to look the other way. Pretty simple solution actually. If you think you are getting screwed because of that, move to another club.
            Still waiting to hear how much these clubs pay for
            the use of these facilitys. I am surprised that this
            issue has not been brought up before. Surely it is
            not the policy of the local authority to allow public
            fields to be used at little or no cost by a for profit
            organization. I bet lots of clubs would like to have
            that kind of cozy deal!!

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Still waiting to hear how much these clubs pay for
              the use of these facilitys. I am surprised that this
              issue has not been brought up before. Surely it is
              not the policy of the local authority to allow public
              fields to be used at little or no cost by a for profit
              organization. I bet lots of clubs would like to have
              that kind of cozy deal!!
              Suggest you bring it up with Mayor Menino. Youre just pissed the club you work for can't afford to give you a christmas bonus. Sux to work for a basement dweller.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Suggest you bring it up with Mayor Menino. Youre just pissed the club you work for can't afford to give you a christmas bonus. Sux to work for a basement dweller.
                Don't work for any club, don't like city fields being used
                by private business STILL waiting for how much these
                clubs who charge thousands of dollars in club fees are
                paying. At least many of the other clubs can point to
                the high cost of field rentals in relation to there fees.
                Seems that a few clubs don't like the lid being lifted
                on this little inside deal.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Don't work for any club, don't like city fields being used
                  by private business STILL waiting for how much these
                  clubs who charge thousands of dollars in club fees are
                  paying. At least many of the other clubs can point to
                  the high cost of field rentals in relation to there fees.
                  Seems that a few clubs don't like the lid being lifted
                  on this little inside deal.
                  Who uses that park for practices? The next question is where do they practice in the winter?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Still waiting to hear how much these clubs pay for
                    the use of these facilitys. I am surprised that this
                    issue has not been brought up before. Surely it is
                    not the policy of the local authority to allow public
                    fields to be used at little or no cost by a for profit
                    organization. I bet lots of clubs would like to have
                    that kind of cozy deal!!
                    O.P., I was not referring to city fields. Have no idea on that one.

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                      Some facts to support a prior point: for boys, we know there are ~50 club teams in Mass. per age group, x 20 kids per team = 1000 club soccer players finishing high school each year and the subject of this discussion. We also know that ~100 Mass. boys per year go to college intending to play soccer. Therefore it seems fair to say that most of those playing club soccer would be doing it even if college soccer did not exist.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Have to figure the only reason someone would fight so hard to deny the costs is they don't want their wife to find out how much they spent on soccer just so Johnny can ride the pine at Babson.

                        Don't know where everyone lives but Wellesley to Foxboro is 22 miles one way and Westboro to Newton is 26. We all know people driving greater distances than that. Federal mileage rate is $.555 this year. 7000 miles for soccer in a year is not a crazy number. No one is spending a heck of a lot less than that unless they live at the fields.

                        If you look at that budget the thing that drives the cost so high is the private stuff. That is were it really gets nuts but 2 practices a week is not going to get it done if you really are chasing a scholly. One thing they forgot is they didn't put the cost for recruiting camps in. Those add up quickly.

                        If you are chasing the dream no way you are not opening your wallet wide.
                        Something overlooked in all these cost posts is what the cost is compared to the alternative. If club soccer did not exist, the child would have another interest that would probably involve driving. Also, tournament travel is often combined into vacation or college visits, travel cost for which soccer is a substitute, not an increase.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Some facts to support a prior point: for boys, we know there are ~50 club teams in Mass. per age group, x 20 kids per team = 1000 club soccer players finishing high school each year and the subject of this discussion. We also know that ~100 Mass. boys per year go to college intending to play soccer. Therefore it seems fair to say that most of those playing club soccer would be doing it even if college soccer did not exist.
                          There is a big difference between playing for the experience of it all and pursuing the high level track like DAP/ECNL. For the former all it really takes is a high school team and a cohesive/ sustainable MAPLE team. No travel. No big expenses. It's just for fun. Doubt anyone argues that one. The latter is really what the discussion is all about. Being on the college scholarship hunt is a huge commitment not only in terms of money but time and energy as well. The crux of this most recent discussion about commitments and cost is far connected than some want to acknowledge. Anyone who is ending up on a commitment list is not getting there by going the "fun route". Unfortunately the discussion about commitments envariably boils down to one about whether the end justified the means. It sux because it does unfairly put the kid in the bullseye but if you are going to put them up as an example of what might be possible like the one poster admitted to doing they really need to fill in the blanks to complete the picture. Let's face it if a parent spent 70-80k during the youth soccer years and their kid ended up as a practice player as many of the players on these lists do the accomplishment some people are trying posture did not actually happen. That is why these commitment threads suck. They do nothing but set false expectations and injure the innocent along the way.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            O.P., I was not referring to city fields. Have no idea on that one.
                            Does anybody know the names of the clubs that
                            have free facility's in the city of Boston, and how
                            much these clubs charge.Because if you factor
                            in the free fields these Club teams could be at
                            the top of the heap when it comes to club
                            fees..

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Something overlooked in all these cost posts is what the cost is compared to the alternative. If club soccer did not exist, the child would have another interest that would probably involve driving. Also, tournament travel is often combined into vacation or college visits, travel cost for which soccer is a substitute, not an increase.
                              Difference between Dance Mom's and Youth Soccer Mom's is those dance kids are already making money doing it and clearly have the talent to be professional dancers when they grow up (if they still have the stomach for dancing). In the equivalent soccer show everyone would know that Maddie was the only one who was going to get anything from enduring all of the craziness and the rest of the kids were destined to end up with little to show for the experience except the memories. You can rationalize a whole bunch of this away if you like but then you miss a great opportunity to adjust any wayward expectations. The people like me who end up posting bitterly about their youth soccer experience invariably are the ones that got to the end then realized how out of whack their early decisions were and how much their ignorance cost them. Just trying to save a few of you a little money and a lot of frustration. Feel free to ignore the advice if it doesn't jive with the way you see things.

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                                Field cost

                                Most establishments book fields on 2-hour block time to guarantee the time and coordinate scheduling.
                                For tournaments, for example, Lancaster will make you rent a minimum number of fields for a minimum amount of time.
                                All that being said, a 2-hour time block on a turf field will run about 250 to 300 dollars.
                                Moderate sized clubs will spend approximately 175,000 dollars per year on fields.

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