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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    While Brandeis may not be an "easy" admit it is not a difficult one either with a 40% acceptance rate. It would be nice to see the program get back to the consistent winning levels coach Coven achieved in the 70s & 80s.
    Thanks for verifying that there is a misperception, which clearly you have as well. The admit rate has fluctuated from below 30% to high 30s. You may define this as "not a difficult one" compared to 12-17% at a Amherst or Williams, and it is true that it is not as tough an admit as those. However, it is a difficult admit especially if you are not a recruit. The pool of applicants is just as important as the admit rate. Most don't get in Brandeis without very strong numbers. Folks out there, especially ones who haven't been through the whole process yet see a school with 32 or 35% and assume that is a cinch. You have to be more than a good student. You have to be a very good to excellent student with acceptable test scores (preferably above 1900 and often above 2050). I know kids with 3.8s and above with SATs north of 2100 who will not get in. And Brandeis is known in academic circles as being superb.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Thanks for verifying that there is a misperception, which clearly you have as well. The admit rate has fluctuated from below 30% to high 30s. You may define this as "not a difficult one" compared to 12-17% at a Amherst or Williams, and it is true that it is not as tough an admit as those. However, it is a difficult admit especially if you are not a recruit. The pool of applicants is just as important as the admit rate. Most don't get in Brandeis without very strong numbers. Folks out there, especially ones who haven't been through the whole process yet see a school with 32 or 35% and assume that is a cinch. You have to be more than a good student. You have to be a very good to excellent student with acceptable test scores (preferably above 1900 and often above 2050). I know kids with 3.8s and above with SATs north of 2100 who will not get in. And Brandeis is known in academic circles as being superb.
      Superb? Seriously. Let's not get carried away. It's a good school, no doubt. But few would put Brandeis in the superb category.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Superb? Seriously. Let's not get carried away. It's a good school, no doubt. But few would put Brandeis in the superb category.
        You must be a brilliant guy and I guess your kids are too.

        Middle 50% on SATs

        CR -- 630-730
        M -- 640-730
        W -- 640-730

        Total = 1910-2190

        % in top 10% high school class -- 84%

        Average High School GPA (rigorous AP/Honors courseload) -- 3.77

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          Another metric folks should consider:

          % graduate in 4 years

          % graduate in 6 years

          Brandeis %'s are 86 and 91

          A place like U Tampa is about 35-40%

          Folks might want to think twice about schools where less than half of entering freshmen ever graduate. You'd be surprised how many schools are below 70%. Anything above 80% is excellent and the 86/91 for Brandeis indeed is superb.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Every comedian would love to have you in his/her audience. You are an easy laugh.
            But I'm not wrong.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Another metric folks should consider:

              % graduate in 4 years

              % graduate in 6 years

              Brandeis %'s are 86 and 91

              A place like U Tampa is about 35-40%

              Folks might want to think twice about schools where less than half of entering freshmen ever graduate. You'd be surprised how many schools are below 70%. Anything above 80% is excellent and the 86/91 for Brandeis indeed is superb.
              Yes....Brandeis is superb when compared to U Tampa. Well done. You seem to suffer from our general societal ill where where we need to give trophies to everyone. I tend to think that the term superb is rarely used except in exceptional circumstances. According to a couple of widely quoted third part rankings (US New & World Report and Forbes), Brandeis is ranked 33rd and 55th among national universities. Not exactly rarified air.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Yes....Brandeis is superb when compared to U Tampa. Well done. You seem to suffer from our general societal ill where where we need to give trophies to everyone. I tend to think that the term superb is rarely used except in exceptional circumstances. According to a couple of widely quoted third part rankings (US New & World Report and Forbes), Brandeis is ranked 33rd and 55th among national universities. Not exactly rarified air.
                You are an absolute imbecile. I am sure you could not get in Brandeis.

                #33 in US News is a very good ranking. Look at the 2-3 above and below.

                The Forbes rankings are a joke. They have Ivies and small Ivies in the 100s.

                Look at other schools you consider acceptable and compare the data I gave you.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Yes....Brandeis is superb when compared to U Tampa. Well done. You seem to suffer from our general societal ill where where we need to give trophies to everyone. I tend to think that the term superb is rarely used except in exceptional circumstances. According to a couple of widely quoted third part rankings (US New & World Report and Forbes), Brandeis is ranked 33rd and 55th among national universities. Not exactly rarified air.
                  Oh my gosh. Not the trophies for all thing again!

                  Where did you graduate from, sir? And your law or doctoral degree?

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Oh my gosh. Not the trophies for all thing again!

                    Where did you graduate from, sir? And your law or doctoral degree?
                    The school I attended has nothing to do with whether Brandeis is considered a superb school. But I will point out that it is ranked more highly than Brandeis according to those publications cited above. It must be considered super superb in your world....

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                      So you want to play the rankings game?

                      Princeton Review 2013

                      Brandeis Admissions Selectivity rating of 98

                      Brown, Wesleyan, Bowdoin also 98

                      Duke, Tufts 97

                      Dartmouth, Cornell, Boston College 96

                      Bates, Colby 94

                      Conn College 93

                      Trinity 92

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The school I attended has nothing to do with whether Brandeis is considered a superb school. But I will point out that it is ranked more highly than Brandeis according to those publications cited above. It must be considered super superb in your world....
                        Try us.

                        Vanderbilt? Rice? UVA? Cal-Berkeley? Northwestern? Johns Hopkins? Cornell?

                        I think the guy also said known as superb "in academic circles."

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You must be a brilliant guy and I guess your kids are too.

                          Middle 50% on SATs

                          CR -- 630-730
                          M -- 640-730
                          W -- 640-730

                          Total = 1910-2190

                          % in top 10% high school class -- 84%

                          Average High School GPA (rigorous AP/Honors courseload) -- 3.77

                          Brandeis common data set for 2011-2012 is lower than what you are presenting. Have I misperceived anything here?
                          http://www.brandeis.edu/opir/institu...S2011_2012.pdf

                          25th - 75th
                          CR 600 - 710
                          M 630 - 740
                          W 630 - 720

                          Total = 1860-2170

                          Tufts 2040-2260
                          BC 1930-2150
                          NE 1850-2130
                          BU 1780-2050

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Brandeis common data set for 2011-2012 is lower than what you are presenting. Have I misperceived anything here?
                            http://www.brandeis.edu/opir/institu...S2011_2012.pdf

                            25th - 75th
                            CR 600 - 710
                            M 630 - 740
                            W 630 - 720

                            Total = 1860-2170

                            Tufts 2040-2260
                            BC 1930-2150
                            NE 1850-2130
                            BU 1780-2050
                            Yes, there is something you are misperceiving. Your numbers are for ENROLLED, not ADMITTED. My numbers came straight out of the 2013 Princeton Review.

                            But even with your numbers, out of the schools you mentioned, Brandeis at the 75th percentile is only behind Tufts, and of course nationally, all of those schools are viewed as very good, excellent, superb, you choose the word.

                            BTW, did you notice in your data set that over 56% of enrolled students had high school GPAs above 3.75? The percentages below 3.5 are quite low. The transfers data is interesting, as average students usually aren't looking at Brandeis as a transfer option -- 531 applications, 149 admitted, 54 enrolled.

                            Some of you out there have no clue. Many who don't know anything sneeze at a school like Northeastern. It has an acceptance rate in the low to mid 30s and is dropping yearly. As their yield moves up, those numbers are going to drop further. My oldest with a 2100 and 3.9 got in there 3 years ago and was offered 16K in merit. This year one of my kids with higher SATs and an even higher GPA was admitted but offered zero money. Both years very top-end students in their graduating classes were waitlisted or denied. But don't worry too much. If your kid has a 2150 or higher, a 3.8 GPA with all As or all As and a B in 4-5 AP classes senior year, he or she will have a decent shot at a NEU acceptance letter.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Yes, there is something you are misperceiving. Your numbers are for ENROLLED, not ADMITTED. My numbers came straight out of the 2013 Princeton Review.

                              But even with your numbers, out of the schools you mentioned, Brandeis at the 75th percentile is only behind Tufts, and of course nationally, all of those schools are viewed as very good, excellent, superb, you choose the word.

                              BTW, did you notice in your data set that over 56% of enrolled students had high school GPAs above 3.75? The percentages below 3.5 are quite low. The transfers data is interesting, as average students usually aren't looking at Brandeis as a transfer option -- 531 applications, 149 admitted, 54 enrolled.

                              Some of you out there have no clue. Many who don't know anything sneeze at a school like Northeastern. It has an acceptance rate in the low to mid 30s and is dropping yearly. As their yield moves up, those numbers are going to drop further. My oldest with a 2100 and 3.9 got in there 3 years ago and was offered 16K in merit. This year one of my kids with higher SATs and an even higher GPA was admitted but offered zero money. Both years very top-end students in their graduating classes were waitlisted or denied. But don't worry too much. If your kid has a 2150 or higher, a 3.8 GPA with all As or all As and a B in 4-5 AP classes senior year, he or she will have a decent shot at a NEU acceptance letter.
                              i sure hope one of you in this Brandeis debate actually has someone at Brandeis or about to matriculate at Brandies. Let's put it to rest--unbiased observer--Brandeis is a very good college--taking it any further is splitting hairs. Let's get back on the Thread Topic HS Class of 2013.

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                                Brandeis is the Harvard of the Waltham Weston Newton area

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