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    #76
    Originally posted by Guest View Post

    There is already a solid core of players on both Stars White and Stars Blue who aren't going anywhere. They may shift back and forth a bit but that is irrelevant. The bottom x percent of their rosters will be cut by U15.

    How will the empty spots be filled???

    1. There are an exceedingly rare few freakishly good forwards out there who will go wherever they want. You'd already know if your kid was one.

    2. There will be a small number of fine soccer players who will be unexpectedly blessed by puberty and develop into monsters. They too will be taken into ECNL. Good luck if you're counting on that.

    3. The remainder of the roster will be filled by GA players at the very top of their team's roster who want to move to ECNL. A la 2007 Stars Blue last May.

    This is it. Story repeats every year. Despite biased parents angrily insisting otherwise. Not hate, not delusion, just plain ugly truth.
    The 07 group has been mentioned a couple times now. So let’s talk about where they were at this age U12. We’re any of them playing at non-ECNL/GA clubs back then? Answer is Yes.

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      #77
      This thread is about 2010, why are you continuing to bring up 2007. Different time, different players, coaches, and clubs have changes since your 2007 were u12.
      It's exciting to see how the club landscape is changing. GA teams are starting to show their strength as predicted with NEFC and SSS teams. I don't think GA players will be jumping ship to ECNL teams.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        This thread is about 2010, why are you continuing to bring up 2007. Different time, different players, coaches, and clubs have changes since your 2007 were u12.
        It's exciting to see how the club landscape is changing. GA teams are starting to show their strength as predicted with NEFC and SSS teams. I don't think GA players will be jumping ship to ECNL teams.
        This post won’t age well. Guaranteed.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Guest View Post
          This thread is about 2010, why are you continuing to bring up 2007. Different time, different players, coaches, and clubs have changes since your 2007 were u12.
          It's exciting to see how the club landscape is changing. GA teams are starting to show their strength as predicted with NEFC and SSS teams. I don't think GA players will be jumping ship to ECNL teams.
          Because the 2007 age group is one of a kind... the best ever. No other age group comes close to 2007 in terms of girls soccer in Massachusetts.

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            #80
            Predictions, delusions, egos, poor kids who just want to play competitive ball.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              The 07 group has been mentioned a couple times now. So let’s talk about where they were at this age U12. We’re any of them playing at non-ECNL/GA clubs back then? Answer is Yes.
              They took the Blue core, added some elite players from White, then recruited a bunch from NEFC and SSS. Maybe a sprinkle of unicorn here or there. They didn't dip into the NPL pool is what I'm trying to explain to you.

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                #82
                Originally posted by Guest View Post
                This thread is about 2010, why are you continuing to bring up 2007.
                You clearly haven't done your reading. Go to the 07 thread and get going. We'll see you in about 6 months once you're done reading it.

                To summarize - the 07 parents went through a "mighty uLittle" phase with alot of squaking, sarcasm, and critical opinions. Then the kids got to high school and they learned the plain, ugly truth the hard way.

                Some of us learned from their (poor) example and are a bit less naive. At least, so far people have been respectful of most clubs (except Scorpions and Juve, but that's normal) and also haven't yet dragged either coaches or 12 year old girls through the mud. Bravo 2010 parents/coaches/etc.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  They took the Blue core, added some elite players from White, then recruited a bunch from NEFC and SSS. Maybe a sprinkle of unicorn here or there. They didn't dip into the NPL pool is what I'm trying to explain to you.
                  Atleast one was in NPL at U12. Thanks for explaining.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post

                    Atleast one was in NPL at U12. Thanks for explaining.
                    One out of 21? That definitely seems like a trend.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      One out of 21? That definitely seems like a trend.
                      Lol

                      And I did say 1 or 2 unicorns. Hilarious rebuttal.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        Lol

                        And I did say 1 or 2 unicorns. Hilarious rebuttal.
                        You don’t need to be a unicorn but you do have to be truly talented. Each of the 2010 teams have had players come in from ‘lower’ clubs in the past year. Each of them has multiple players that know they are on the chopping block. If you have a great 2010, the time to move is now. All of the reasons listed above as to why the switch is difficult will only become more difficult.

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                          #87
                          Can't read 6 pages but in case it's not obvious, comparing clubs at U12 only tells part of the story as by U15 many players will have moved. The forwards and the goal keepers in particular, the entire big club model is based on raiding other clubs. It's not that they produce better players, but that they aggregate them onto one team.

                          Someone mentioned commutes to practice etc. Unless you're thinking a club is a one-year stepping stone to another club - think about whether it's worth the time for you and the kid. That may depend on whether there are carpool families nearby.

                          Did you talk about roster sizes? Think about what kind of playing time your kid is going to get, and in what position, on a roster of 21+ at the level you are targeting.

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                            #88
                            I’m the OP, just need solid advice…From the advice here it sounds like if a player is offered a spot on ECNL -R, don’t take that spot because they might likely get stuck there as there is little movement up from Regional to National. If your child hopes to be National one day, maybe post maturity, it’s better to keep them developing on their current smaller club teams? For example if you have a Juve player getting solid playing time on a Juve team and developing well, liking the coach, don’t bother going over to the bigger ECNL type club unless they offer your kid on a National ECNL team with plenty of playing time? Hmmm so avoid the ECNLR ? Due to possibly less development, minutes on the field and costs? I think that’s what I’m getting from the 6 pages?

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post
                              I’m the OP, just need solid advice…From the advice here it sounds like if a player is offered a spot on ECNL -R, don’t take that spot because they might likely get stuck there as there is little movement up from Regional to National. If your child hopes to be National one day, maybe post maturity, it’s better to keep them developing on their current smaller club teams? For example if you have a Juve player getting solid playing time on a Juve team and developing well, liking the coach, don’t bother going over to the bigger ECNL type club unless they offer your kid on a National ECNL team with plenty of playing time? Hmmm so avoid the ECNLR ? Due to possibly less development, minutes on the field and costs? I think that’s what I’m getting from the 6 pages?
                              If your player is clearly the most "talented" on her current team, it's time to move on. ECNL-R players very rarely get the call up to the national team. GA is above ECNL-R for the most part, so if she doesn't get placed on a national team at Stars or Scorpions, head to SSS, NEFC, or Seacoast, if you're primarily looking for a solid club, exposure, and high-end coaching. If her end game is to be a college player someday, you want to be at one of the 5 clubs listed above, as it will be hard to get her on a top roster the longer you wait.

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                                #90
                                So this whole thread should start with what town you live in and how far are you willing to drive.

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