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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't agree with it either and if their only defense is a white paper, that is sad. Personnally saw this with our town travel program and like the sudbury program they were not very good. More goofing off than anything else and 1/2 speed everything.

    At least at the club level the kids start to take it more serious and if the whole team is focused then the quality improves. Sure you can have a 2-1 or 3-1 ratio but it really depends on what is being taught in the practice to determine if there is anything being gained.

    What I would do is look at the actual coaches credentials to determine what is the best path for your child.

    It's ok if he/she is not licensed if they have played the game at some competitive level for a town program. I think you know the answer is to stick with club and play town for the fun time soccer. THe fun soccer is neccessary to keep the kiddo's happy. ;)
    fun soccer for my kid is playing good, competitive soccer. The travel team is in Division 3 - we've watched a few of their games - let's just say the level of play leaves a lot to be desired. So sadly, we are going to stick with club. This mandate that you can't play both town academy and club soccer is a travesty and a disservice not only to kids like my son but all the players in the academy team.

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      #17
      You should consider your son only playing academy. My son is in the top academy team. Although we are only in division 2, BAYs, the players are comparable to good MAPLE team and the coaching is just excellent. Besides, he'll build stronger bonds with his fellow Sudbury kids and your drives to practice will be much shorter.

      I know several Sudbury players in that U10 team that switched to a green division MAPLE team a couple years ago and I can tell you that their skill level is no better than the middle tier players on our academy team.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        fun soccer for my kid is playing good, competitive soccer. The travel team is in Division 3 - we've watched a few of their games - let's just say the level of play leaves a lot to be desired. So sadly, we are going to stick with club. This mandate that you can't play both town academy and club soccer is a travesty and a disservice not only to kids like my son but all the players in the academy team.
        I think they have this rule to keep parents like you from signing up, be happy playing for your club team and stop trashing their program. if it is so bad why do care so much about be excluded - please don't respond - hopefully this sour grapes thread ends.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I think they have this rule to keep parents like you from signing up, be happy playing for your club team and stop trashing their program. if it is so bad why do care so much about be excluded - please don't respond - hopefully this sour grapes thread ends.
          different poster. This is a soccer forum. He or she is allowed to talk about a town soccer program especially one that is not fair to club players. He posted links and quotes from the sudbury soccer site that make his case pretty valid. I have a son playing in Division 1 BAYS for Natick and he does club. If we lived in Sudbury he would not have that option to play for his top town team and do club and that would really suck. I certainly would raise hell about it.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            We just moved to Sudbury and my son wants to do town travel and club. The top town travel team is the Academy team. I think he can easily make this team as he plays in a top, undefeated MAPLE team and is their top scorer. But the academy team has this strict rule that you can't play Academy and Club soccer- so he's going to have to choose. I don't understand the rationale for this. Soccer is his only sport. They say it's about limiting the amount of one sport activity but I don't buy it. Besides I think it's wrong for towns to dictate what one chooses to do for sports. Any thoughts? Does any other town do this type of nonsense?
            If your son is a good player and has a passion for the game, ditch town soccer. Waste of time in the long run

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Newton parent here. Sudbury used to have a strong boys team. We used to play them in BAYs U10 Division 1A. Good team but then they dropped off the map. makes sense now.
              Same on the girls side. Sudbury used to be a Bays powerhouse with teams at the top of both Div 1 and 2 every year in every age group. Now they are an utter joke, an easy W. All the good players have gone the club route (most were already there but did both). I could maybe understand the program in poorer community but Sudbury is extremly affluent. While there may a be few kids who make high school varsity that never play club, in any large school the majority are club players. L-S is no different. Except, those club players will not get to compete on the same team before HS. Someone sold that town a bill of goods.

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                #22
                Are parent really starting threads with "my son plays d1 bays" at U10? Yeah, I think parent coaches and parents in general are the problem. Let Sudbury do their thing, most town teams are poorly run anyways so it's an easy excuse for a quality player to skip it.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Are parent really starting threads with "my son plays d1 bays" at U10? Yeah, I think parent coaches and parents in general are the problem. Let Sudbury do their thing, most town teams are poorly run anyways so it's an easy excuse for a quality player to skip it.
                  Thats not the point Snidely. Sudbury does not allow club players. Like or not, even at U14 Div 1 bays teams are loaded with club players

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You should consider your son only playing academy. My son is in the top academy team. Although we are only in division 2, BAYs, the players are comparable to good MAPLE team and the coaching is just excellent. Besides, he'll build stronger bonds with his fellow Sudbury kids and your drives to practice will be much shorter.

                    I know several Sudbury players in that U10 team that switched to a green division MAPLE team a couple years ago and I can tell you that their skill level is no better than the middle tier players on our academy team.
                    Yes, that green division team is JBSA. I beg to differ on your skills assessment of those players. One of their best player's skills was so bad his dad secretly signed him up with a club n Boston for training and games. Oh, btw, come play us sometime. To the OP, if you really want your son to get the best soccer training and games in this area, stay away from Sudbury soccer. Stick with club, do ODP and District Select.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Are parent really starting threads with "my son plays d1 bays" at U10? Yeah, I think parent coaches and parents in general are the problem. Let Sudbury do their thing, most town teams are poorly run anyways so it's an easy excuse for a quality player to skip it.
                      Well Sudbury tried to stuff 4 teams in the top 2 groups in Bays U10 boys last year and completely mucked up the brackets. Why BAYS allowed one delusional knucklehead to do this hard to figure but a real bully willing to throw a temper tantrum to get the placements he wanted. Aside from the top team, the rest were repeatedly walloped by double digits. Among the boys they now known as the "Sudbury Suds".

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                        #26
                        Wrong

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Same on the girls side. Sudbury used to be a Bays powerhouse with teams at the top of both Div 1 and 2 every year in every age group. Now they are an utter joke, an easy W. All the good players have gone the club route (most were already there but did both). I could maybe understand the program in poorer community but Sudbury is extremly affluent. While there may a be few kids who make high school varsity that never play club, in any large school the majority are club players. L-S is no different. Except, those club players will not get to compete on the same team before HS. Someone sold that town a bill of goods.
                        About not playing together before LS: the very top 7th and 8th graders, from top of Stars/MPS/ U14 Sudbury academy squad play together on the middle school team, and dominated..... At least half the girls come from squad....

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I know several Sudbury players in that U10 team that switched to a green division MAPLE team a couple years ago and I can tell you that their skill level is no better than the middle tier players on our academy team.
                          At U10, teams were grouped geographically, weren't they? So there was no particular difference between the level of play in Green and in any other division.

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                            #28
                            Your child can still play town travel just not on the academy team if they play club? I'm sure if your child is real good the town will change there minds. There are different rules for good players.
                            As strange as it sounds I think the town some what right. They are making the person choose What most parents/kids do sign up for travel town soccer and then miss most of the practices or games. Making them choose makes it easier for every one involved.

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                              #29
                              not an uncommon problem for town teams...In my town as long as the club players showed up for games that is all we cared about....it wasn't like they were on the corner smoking they were playing high level soccer....It also gave the lower level kids a chance to touch the ball in practice...There were benefits both ways...silly power trips for some ex B Ball coaches

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                At U10, teams were grouped geographically, weren't they? So there was no particular difference between the level of play in Green and in any other division.
                                sorry- didn't word this correctly. they switched to MAPLE team at U10 which is currently in MAPLE green (U12).

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