DAP Results

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Another thought. Revs was more recently added to the DAP roster. Does MA really have enough talent to support two DAP teams, especially with the decline in talent in the past few years? Probably not.

There ahould only be one DAP team in MA and because it is free it should be the Revs.
The high school choice will further dilute the pool. There are talented players that chose to play high school this also applies to the pre-DAP teams.

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I think it's a lot easier for a high school freshman to choose DAP then a junior. The ones who never played high school won't care.

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It seems to be the norm in DAP for about 7 or 8
kids to log the majority of start. No doubt,these
players will improve with the confidence that they
will be allowed have poor games and still start
next game. My question is to the other 16 or
so rotating thru just a few positions are these
kids still better off with the DAP team?

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;798758]I think it's a lot easier for a high school freshman to choose DAP then a junior. The ones who never played high school won't

For freshman starting ISL schools this year it is expected from them to play for the school.

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Well very few of them will get waivers and play on DAP, maybe none

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It seems to be the norm in DAP for about 7 or 8
kids to log the majority of start. No doubt,these
players will improve with the confidence that they
will be allowed have poor games and still start
next game. My question is to the other 16 or
so rotating thru just a few positions are these
kids still better off with the DAP team?

This is the interesting issue. Some kids who dont play will want to continue because they like the practices, the level and want to get better. Others lose their confidence and want off or get cut. Parents wonder why a kid would spend a whole weekend on travel (and the cost) to get 10 minutes play and just pull the plug.

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This is where the development theory goes out the
window. Are you going to develop when the coach
deems you one of his starters? Of course you are.
But what about the kids who don't start twenty out
of twenty five games? If it is about pure development
and results are secondary Why is this practice widespread.
why travel for hours train all week to play 10 mins!

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This is where the development theory goes out the
window. Are you going to develop when the coach
deems you one of his starters? Of course you are.
But what about the kids who don't start twenty out
of twenty five games? If it is about pure development
and results are secondary Why is this practice widespread.
why travel for hours train all week to play 10 mins!

This is where I agree with an anti-DAP comment. It is clear that you are not with the DAP and,in fact, probably has a son who has not made either program. My son has been playing for the Academy but won't this coming year to allow him to play with his high school team. My son played in about 40% of the games this past year. One truth is that he would get far more playtime on a non-DAP club team.
I think the DAP idea is great and agree fully with its goals. Many have complained about having too many team i.e. 2 in Massachusetts. My major complaint is that there are too many kids who are rostered (FT) on the team. I see no reason why there needs to be more than 18 kids. For those who are lower than 18, find another team....DAP or nonDAP, but go and get some playtime with great training.

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This is where the development theory goes out the
window. Are you going to develop when the coach
deems you one of his starters? Of course you are.
But what about the kids who don't start twenty out
of twenty five games? If it is about pure development
and results are secondary Why is this practice widespread.
why travel for hours train all week to play 10 mins!

It does seem like some players play a lot!!

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It does seem like some players play a lot!!

And some players play hardly at all. Revs 16s have one defender they started only once. At the end of the season they downgraded him from full time to development status. Is this a way around the requirement that players start a certain percentage of the games?

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25% minimum start requirement, or at least that's what should happen.
http://www.ussoccer.com/teams/develo...-overview.aspx

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But if you look at the game reports, in those 25% starts, these kids are coming out after 20 minutes. And it depends on the competition - the same kid with get a half a game against a low end NE division team. Or - if you look at the Bolts playoff games, benchwarmers got to play in the third game, after the first two losses - a great gesture to give them a going away present when nothing was on the line. Thing is, this is the way it is everywhere. A kid committed to the game will take what he gets and not complain. At U16, its really not about development anyway - that's pretty much done.

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And some players play hardly at all. Revs 16s have one defender they started only once. At the end of the season they downgraded him from full time to development status. Is this a way around the requirement that players start a certain percentage of the games?

What seems to be happening is the players deemed to be top of the roster play and start all
the time.The rest compete for limited time. Clubs are required to start kids a certain percentage of games. However, the games the bottom of the roster play are usually against
the weaker teams coupled with a lot of garbage time in games. So how is this different to how
many of other clubs operate? Where is the total development. Players need to play to improve,
you do so by playing against top teams in pressure situations. On the face of it DAP seems to
run like lots of other clubs.

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And shame on the DAP teams if they have taken a player on and only see him as a
"utility" player. It's supposedly the "best of the best" right? They put kids in for garbage time so the "games played" stats looks decent and meets the mark for the USSF standards.
If its really about development the team should not have such a lopsided amount of kids who play every game (not good for them either if they feel entitled) and those that
don't get enough quality playing time.

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They take on kids thinking the potential is there. When the coaches decide it isn't, its the bench. Some kids quit.. several did quit DAP teams this year. The interesting question is, should a kid at U16 and above be contend to get rostered occasionally and get a few minutes at the end of a game? The mentality of the player, when he's on a team, is to keep trying - to start showing something and earn more time, which is what they're told to do. What I don't get is the point of spending hundreds of dollars and a weekend of travel for 20 minutes on the field. I mean, frankly, the coaches ought to do these kids a favor and cut them (course, they'll replace them with another group of benchwarmers.).. A kid who spends a year of soccer playing 20 minutes here and there is not really getting the experience of enjoying being part of a team. These kids could be doing that on other teams.