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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    These West parents have never had any class. Doesn't matter what league they play in or what club they belong to they act like fools.
    I think JD has to go down there and threaten to take their lifeline away if this keeps up . Remember they are like are step children , not the real Stars.

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      no the biggest failure was from a grown adult jeering a hurt CHILD. It is not ok. it is not understandable, and it is taunting, and disgusting.

      That is the biggest failure. Then comes the coach yelling respond. It does not matter what happened with the ref, or in the game before that. An adult spectator should have control of their mouth. You can't blame the ref, or the aggressive behavior for making you out to be an over involved, hand wringing, maniac on the sidelines. Think for a moment if it were you child.

      I agree that the first ball was clearly a 50/50, and the second was a clean tackle. If you can't take physical play, perhaps your little Abby has aged out of COMPETITIVE soccer. I am tired of ignorant parents not understanding that just because someone ends up on the ground, or hurt, does not mean it was dirty.
      But what if you are just as biased? Imagine you are one of quiet parents on the other team watching this all unfold, and you see this player as overly aggressive. You think these are dangerous fouls. You've got this jerky mom on your team flipping out, and it's embarrassing, but you too think things are getting out of control. Then all _ell breaks lose, jerky patent says something stupid, kid is hurt, and meanwhile you're thinking that that was an accident just waiting to happen and thank goodness your player didn't get taken out. Just because a parent was a jerk does not mean your player wasn't out of line. I still place this whole incident squarely in the laps of the coaches. They are the ones calling the shots here.

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        #48
        There are ill-behaved parents in every age group, and on EVERY team, regardless of origin. It is unfortunate that this girl got hurt.

        Refs need to control the game; parents need to control themselves; and coaches need to control their players.

        Incidents like this are not limited to Stars West or any other team, NEFC included.

        The sad thing is that instead of offering condolences or support to the injured player, people instead will use this incident to perpetuate and foster continued ill will toward a given CLUB, like the Stars---

        Grow up. The OP had an agenda. And it certainly wasn't to offer support to the girl who broke her leg.

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          #49
          Precisely. there were no fouls called. No cards. Everyone is wrong in this situation except the Stars West, players, coaches and parents. Hope you are getting a real good mental picture because they acted like idiots and now are trying to defend it.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            But what if you are just as biased? Imagine you are one of quiet parents on the other team watching this all unfold, and you see this player as overly aggressive. You think these are dangerous fouls. You've got this jerky mom on your team flipping out, and it's embarrassing, but you too think things are getting out of control. Then all _ell breaks lose, jerky patent says something stupid, kid is hurt, and meanwhile you're thinking that that was an accident just waiting to happen and thank goodness your player didn't get taken out. Just because a parent was a jerk does not mean your player wasn't out of line. I still place this whole incident squarely in the laps of the coaches. They are the ones calling the shots here.
            Once again the player did NOTHING wrong. If the player did nothing wrong why are you pointing fingers at CH saying he did somthing wrong? Did you hear him yell out to the player to take out one of the West players? What happened here is the West players were getting beaten pretty soundly and their parents were upset about it. They acted badly. Don't try to turn this back on NEFC.

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              #51
              There is plenty of blame to go around.

              Until the powers that be institute and enforce a zero tolerance policy on the sidelines this sort of garbage will contiue and will continue to get worse.

              Shut these insane parents up and let the kids play.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Precisely. there were no fouls called. No cards. Everyone is wrong in this situation except the Stars West, players, coaches and parents. Hope you are getting a real good mental picture because they acted like idiots and now are trying to defend it.
                The no fouls or cards is not impressive, in case you were wondering. I've sat through blood bathes that were without fouls or cards, and I have boys.

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                  #53
                  Gee, I thought things like this weren't going to happen in the "elite" NEP, you know, with the good refs and all.

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                    #54
                    Stars parents always like to blame the "stars bashing" when it comes to someone pointing out their bad behavior. I don't have a horse in the race, I am a Bolts parent. I am just saying that this parent was completely out of line, and you can not condone her behavior or what led her to that point. I am not bashing the Stars I am bashing this one lady, and I am saying that any of you that justify her emotional response are just as bad.

                    I don't have a bias. I think sportsmanship is what we ought to strive for, and if no foul was called, then we "pull up our skirts" and play on. Parents don't get to call the fouls, the ref does.

                    A coach that yells "respond" about a physical game should be questioned about his intent. I would be concerned about the message he is sending to the girls. Once again every time little Abby falls, is not a foul. It looked to me like the Stars were being muscled off of the ball, and were getting more and more frustrated, the coach in his utter frustration, yells "respond", and his players cause a girl's leg to be broken, and as a parting shot a parent heckles an injured player.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Once again the player did NOTHING wrong. If the player did nothing wrong why are you pointing fingers at CH saying he did somthing wrong? Did you hear him yell out to the player to take out one of the West players? What happened here is the West players were getting beaten pretty soundly and their parents were upset about it. They acted badly. Don't try to turn this back on NEFC.
                      The person who started this thread was an NEFC parent who was ripped about this injury and the response of the jerky Stars West parent. They started this thread specifically to run down Stars West. I am not with either team, but having read all these posts, the sane, more balanced ones (no, not you) present a picture of a game that got out of control. Your insistence that your player did NOTHING wrong is telling. Regardless, a strong, aggressive player is out for the season, which is a huge lose to her team and a heartbreaker for her.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The no fouls or cards is not impressive, in case you were wondering. I've sat through blood bathes that were without fouls or cards, and I have boys.
                        As I have, but if the official is letting them play then it kind of hard under those circumstances to pick on a player and call them dirty just because they are bigger and stronger than the rest. How can anyone lay blame on anyone other than the official in that situation. It was a physical game. I saw West players punching that girl in the back as well. Should that somehow be put out there to justify an aggressive slide tackle? If the official didn't call fouls who are we to start isolating specific plays or players and condemn them?

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You are an absolute idiot. She didn't throw her self at anyone. She tried to cut across the defenders face to the ball and the defender stepped on her foot and tripped her. Looked like a cheap hit to me.
                          And your calling the West parents unclassy. You are one to talk. She threw herself at the first couple of players and it should have been corrected there. You are the idiot if you didn't see that.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            As I have, but if the official is letting them play then it kind of hard under those circumstances to pick on a player and call them dirty just because they are bigger and stronger than the rest. How can anyone lay blame on anyone other than the official in that situation. It was a physical game. I saw West players punching that girl in the back as well. Should that somehow be put out there to justify an aggressive slide tackle? If the official didn't call fouls who are we to start isolating specific plays or players and condemn them?
                            Uh, aren't you the people who are basically accusing the other teams coach of practically telling his players to attack your player and break her leg? Have you READ these posts?? Nasty, over the top accusations and calling out people is something your team seems very comfortable with.

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                              #59
                              kpw6rf

                              This story, or at least similar ones, are more common than we all care to admit. I will not mention club names, it is the story that matters. Team A was the favorite to win and came out of the gate playing some pretty nasty soccer. Team B played hard for the first half and most of the second, and was still playing a clean game. With 10-15 minutes left one of the players on the team B must have decided that she saw enough of her teametes being beaten on, tripped, pushed, everything short of being shot. For the next 5 minutes it was time for retribution. Suddenly the referee could see and the girl on team B got tossed from the game.

                              Here are the lessons:
                              1. Refs have to learn there is no" home court " advantage. A dirty play is a dirty play no matter the team. Stop the dirty play immediately.
                              2. For you parents that encourage your own kid to be nasty there is always somebody nastier and when your own "nasty" kid gets taken out don't cry about it.
                              3. You will never know who the "nastier kid" is until it is too late for somebody, it could be the nasty kid on your team that gets severely hurt.
                              4. Re-read the second sentence of lesson number 1.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This story, or at least similar ones, are more common than we all care to admit. I will not mention club names, it is the story that matters. Team A was the favorite to win and came out of the gate playing some pretty nasty soccer. Team B played hard for the first half and most of the second, and was still playing a clean game. With 10-15 minutes left one of the players on the team B must have decided that she saw enough of her teametes being beaten on, tripped, pushed, everything short of being shot. For the next 5 minutes it was time for retribution. Suddenly the referee could see and the girl on team B got tossed from the game.

                                Here are the lessons:
                                1. Refs have to learn there is no" home court " advantage. A dirty play is a dirty play no matter the team. Stop the dirty play immediately.
                                2. For you parents that encourage your own kid to be nasty there is always somebody nastier and when your own "nasty" kid gets taken out don't cry about it.
                                3. You will never know who the "nastier kid" is until it is too late for somebody, it could be the nasty kid on your team that gets severely hurt.
                                4. Re-read the second sentence of lesson number 1.
                                Are you from MA?

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