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    This is spot on in my opinion, development needs to trump winning in our youth system - Development needs to replace winning

    Quit sacrificing the developing careers of top youth players for the sake of the almighty win!!

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    This is spot on in my opinion, development needs to trump winning in our youth system - Development needs to replace winning

    Quit sacrificing the developing careers of top youth players for the sake of the almighty win!!
    Will never happen. Our governing body refuses to address the issue

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      This is spot on in my opinion, development needs to trump winning in our youth system - Development needs to replace winning

      Quit sacrificing the developing careers of top youth players for the sake of the almighty win!!
      I understand what Reyna is trying to do, but do you realize the likelihood that ALL those coaches would buy into his ideas??

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I understand what Reyna is trying to do, but do you realize the likelihood that ALL those coaches would buy into his ideas??
        Too much money for them to lose.

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          #5
          when they stop keeping score is when that will happen....

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            when they stop keeping score is when that will happen....
            Really, I agree. Practice is practice. Its games where the speed of play picks up. Its in games where the marks are tighter and the tackles harder. Its in games where you get the pay off of the hard work of training. Its in games where the successful coaching comes home to roost in the outcome. Is the issue really winning or untrained eyes that can't distinguish between good soccer and not, except by the final score?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Really, I agree. Practice is practice. Its games where the speed of play picks up. Its in games where the marks are tighter and the tackles harder. Its in games where you get the pay off of the hard work of training. Its in games where the successful coaching comes home to roost in the outcome. Is the issue really winning or untrained eyes that can't distinguish between good soccer and not, except by the final score?
              The issue is that you play to win the game. That's what a game is. It is a competition. All this talk of development is great, and certainly the win should be directed towards good play, and a lose should be considered better than a "bad" win, but still, in the end, the point is to win the game. If the kids weren't competitive, they wouldn't show up. You have to let them compete or they won't show up in the future. No scores? I think you have forgotten a little thing called human nature. You play a game to win. That's why you play.

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                #8
                This is from a MPS parent from experiences over the years with kids playing for MPS.

                MPS coaches at a younger ages do not stress out the kids to win games. All the players get equal time of play and kids switch positions. You will not see kids ridding the bench at younger age groups in order for the team to win. MPS at each age group have training objectives, goal and practice outline for each age group of what the kids need to get as far as training. The coaches are also full time coaches that go to the office and discuss what they are going to do for training and players. The atmosphere at the practices and games are friendly. It reminds me of when my son played soccer over in Europe during the summer with organized scrimmages.

                This year MPS did very well with their U16 Region 1 team and played in the playoffs and came in 3rd out of 16 teams. Also 6 players were offered spots on the U16 DAP teams, 5 New England Revolution DAP team, the most players selected from one club and player from the Bolts U16 DAP team but turned it down to play with MPS Region 1 team.

                Tryouts are coming up for all those interested.

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                  #9
                  Which MPS U16B team, Crusaders, Bulldogs, Knights, Phoenix, or is it a combination of players? Did they play Region 1 or in the sub-regional league? Where do they practice? Are all the players offered DAP spots accepting them, and if so will the team remain competitive?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Will never happen. Our governing body refuses to address the issue
                    Actually, it's teh parents who seek the glory of league championships and state cup wins that prevents clubs focusing on development. When little Landon's team or Little Mia's team doesn't come in first, the family is off to the team that did win.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The issue is that you play to win the game. That's what a game is. It is a competition. All this talk of development is great, and certainly the win should be directed towards good play, and a lose should be considered better than a "bad" win, but still, in the end, the point is to win the game. If the kids weren't competitive, they wouldn't show up. You have to let them compete or they won't show up in the future. No scores? I think you have forgotten a little thing called human nature. You play a game to win. That's why you play.
                      And this post makes my pint in the previous post about the parents looking to win.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Which MPS U16B team, Crusaders, Bulldogs, Knights, Phoenix, or is it a combination of players? Did they play Region 1 or in the sub-regional league? Where do they practice? Are all the players offered DAP spots accepting them, and if so will the team remain competitive?

                        It was the U16 Bulldogs team that played Region 1.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The issue is that you play to win the game. That's what a game is. It is a competition. All this talk of development is great, and certainly the win should be directed towards good play, and a lose should be considered better than a "bad" win, but still, in the end, the point is to win the game. If the kids weren't competitive, they wouldn't show up. You have to let them compete or they won't show up in the future. No scores? I think you have forgotten a little thing called human nature. You play a game to win. That's why you play.

                          When teams focus on winning, kids will not get equal playing time, coaches discourage kids to try foot skills and the their development is effected. Coaches look at bigger faster stronger kids with less skills over smaller technical skilled players in order to win at younger ages.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It was the U16 Bulldogs team that played Region 1.
                            Are the players accepting the DAP roster spots? If so, what happens to the competitiveness of the team?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              This is from a MPS parent from experiences over the years with kids playing for MPS.

                              MPS coaches at a younger ages do not stress out the kids to win games. All the players get equal time of play and kids switch positions. You will not see kids ridding the bench at younger age groups in order for the team to win. MPS at each age group have training objectives, goal and practice outline for each age group of what the kids need to get as far as training. The coaches are also full time coaches that go to the office and discuss what they are going to do for training and players. The atmosphere at the practices and games are friendly. It reminds me of when my son played soccer over in Europe during the summer with organized scrimmages.

                              This year MPS did very well with their U16 Region 1 team and played in the playoffs and came in 3rd out of 16 teams. Also 6 players were offered spots on the U16 DAP teams, 5 New England Revolution DAP team, the most players selected from one club and player from the Bolts U16 DAP team but turned it down to play with MPS Region 1 team.

                              Tryouts are coming up for all those interested.


                              I like MPS, but don't be so naive. On the whole, I think their top youth teams are as good as any other team with very good skills....but.....this past Winter and in many of the NEP games that I have seen, the U10 MPS coach is playing to win. There has been no switching up of positions and the goalie stays the same.
                              .....but......I like the idea that coaches can encourage the players to play to win. Why not??? We don't want them going out to play to lose. However, at this young age, I like the development of kids at all positions.

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