NEFC u11 coach classless

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the whole thing that does crack me up (or should i say is disturbing) is how all of these people do come on here bashing him and them being on their high horse thinking they all behave.............like I said, U11 soccer, 5th graders.

Exactly. U11 soccer. 5th graders. And the coach gets tossed?

Talk about being a role model.

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and it starts again.....

who said nick is a role model? he's one of a dozen coaches these kids will have as they continue playing sports. I'm sure you've never lost your temper with your kids. maybe you should join nick on redemption island.

keep it coming.

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Exactly. U11 soccer. 5th graders. And the coach gets tossed?

Talk about being a role model.

I guarantee you yell and scream at the refs. U11. 5th graders. You are posting about it while you work. Move on.

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keep it coming.

who said nick is a role model? he's one of a dozen coaches these kids will have as they continue playing sports. I'm sure you've never lost your temper with your kids. maybe you should join nick on redemption island.

keep it coming.

NEFC U11 parents classless, should be the new title to this thread. You keep trying to defend and indefensible position, and ask to keep it coming. Just shut up and stop feeding the trolls and hopefully this conversation will die off. Deal with it at your club level not here.

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We now know everybody is holier than thou. I have a question for any referees out there. Is there any way for coaches to give feedback on referees and is there any recourse for anybody who consistantly has coaches complaing about them. At any level? The US world cup match from last summer is a good example.

Anybody who has some non, i need to anonymously vent my anger responses, please chime in.

I automatically discount any assessment of a ref by the losing coach. No objectivity is available. It is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Coaches who blame officials for their own behavior are a dime a dozen. Take responsibility for your behavior and learn some self control. Be a role model and act like an adult.

- Cujo

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Again - it is not just NB that has been tossed. The SSS coach LL has been tossed, other coaches have been tossed from different clubs around the state and country. Next week, while I don't wish for it, my guess is another coach is going to get tossed. We make mistakes, but to say it is just an NEFC problem is off base, but people seem to attack the bigger and more successful clubs (Stars, NEFC and MPS).

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Same NEFC channel, Same NEFC time, Same NEFC Complaints

NEFC U11 parents classless, should be the new title to this thread.

Funny thing is NEFC has many coaches posting here.. Stirring up the pot !

Then they have the IP address police going after NEFC parents that bad mouth the club. When they find out your child buried at the end of the bench.

We all know this, so tell us something NEW.. or move on !!

Batman says "POW - BANG - POOF"

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the whole thing that does crack me up (or should i say is disturbing) is how all of these people do come on here bashing him and them being on their high horse thinking they all behave.............like I said, U11 soccer, 5th graders.

What's more disturbing is all the people defending this type of behavior. It's not ok and not everyone behaves in this manner. He does not represent the company he works for in a positive way. If this was a "real world" job, he would be fired. No wonder why more and more refs are leaving Maple.

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Again - it is not just NB that has been tossed. The SSS coach LL has been tossed, other coaches have been tossed from different clubs around the state and country. Next week, while I don't wish for it, my guess is another coach is going to get tossed. We make mistakes, but to say it is just an NEFC problem is off base, but people seem to attack the bigger and more successful clubs (Stars, NEFC and MPS).

Somewhere out there on the web, is a link to the adults ( coaches, parents, spectators etc.) who have been suspended for lenghty periods of time, even forever, from Youth Soccer Activities in America. I wish I could remmeber the link. It isn't a short list.

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We now know everybody is holier than thou. I have a question for any referees out there. Is there any way for coaches to give feedback on referees and is there any recourse for anybody who consistantly has coaches complaing about them. At any level? The US world cup match from last summer is a good example.

Anybody who has some non, i need to anonymously vent my anger responses, please chime in.

I have been involved with growing young referees for a number of years now.
The only realistic way to evaluate their performance is to have another referee watch them. 2 reasons for this.
1) Objectivity. Of course anyone who disagrees with a call is going to rate the referee negatively. That usually renders the entire conversation useless.
2) Expertise. Even neutrals who aren't trained refs can rarely make useful assessments of a ref's performance. They just don't know what to look for. Even if they know the game, and even if they know refereeing, they need a sense of how a referee develops. It's much the same as coaching developing players. Not all "mistakes" are the same. Some are good learning opportunities, others are just failures. The "coach" needs to know the difference.

If anyone is actually serious about improving things (???), here are 2 inexpensive models I have personally witnessed making a difference in youth leagues:
1) Position the assignor at the fields. This works well for clubs that have many contiguous fields. No assignor wants problems. They will instantly identify which refs are making their lives more difficult and move them down the totem pole.
2) Hire roaming assessors. These don't have to be trained fifa badges. They can just be your more experienced referees. Give them the authority to give feedback (discreetly) to the other refs and pass evaluations to the assessor.

OK, I spewed all that because I felt an obligation to all the youth refs out there.
But now I must bring up that this was U11G?
Imagine your league already had a assessment/ranking system in place for its refs.
How much farther down can someone be pushed than U11G?
So, unless this is a ref that needs to be banned for life, I find it hard to imagine any fault lies with the reffing crew.
Where the H#LL are refs supposed to learn????
They don't pop out of their mother's womb wearing a FIFA badge for heaven's sake.

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We now know everybody is holier than thou. I have a question for any referees out there. Is there any way for coaches to give feedback on referees and is there any recourse for anybody who consistantly has coaches complaing about them. At any level? The US world cup match from last summer is a good example.

Anybody who has some non, i need to anonymously vent my anger responses, please chime in.




I have been involved with growing young referees for a number of years now.
The only realistic way to evaluate their performance is to have another referee watch them. 2 reasons for this.
1) Objectivity. Of course anyone who disagrees with a call is going to rate the referee negatively. That usually renders the entire conversation useless.
2) Expertise. Even neutrals who aren't trained refs can rarely make useful assessments of a ref's performance. They just don't know what to look for. Even if they know the game, and even if they know refereeing, they need a sense of how a referee develops. It's much the same as coaching developing players. Not all "mistakes" are the same. Some are good learning opportunities, others are just failures. The "coach" needs to know the difference.

If anyone is actually serious about improving things (???), here are 2 inexpensive models I have personally witnessed making a difference in youth leagues:
1) Position the assignor at the fields. This works well for clubs that have many contiguous fields. No assignor wants problems. They will instantly identify which refs are making their lives more difficult and move them down the totem pole.
2) Hire roaming assessors. These don't have to be trained fifa badges. They can just be your more experienced referees. Give them the authority to give feedback (discreetly) to the other refs and pass evaluations to the assessor.

OK, I spewed all that because I felt an obligation to all the youth refs out there.
But now I must bring up that this was U11G?
Imagine your league already had a assessment/ranking system in place for its refs.
How much farther down can someone be pushed than U11G?
So, unless this is a ref that needs to be banned for life, I find it hard to imagine any fault lies with the reffing crew.
Where the H#LL are refs supposed to learn????
They don't pop out of their mother's womb wearing a FIFA badge for heaven's sake.

Oh, I forgot to mention.....
Of course the ref from the US WC game was assessed and rated.
Not by the US coaches and not in public.
Duh

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I have watched about 8-10 games this spring and have to say that the officiating is much, much better than the high school officials.

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I have been involved with growing young referees for a number of years now.
The only realistic way to evaluate their performance is to have another referee watch them. 2 reasons for this.
1) Objectivity. Of course anyone who disagrees with a call is going to rate the referee negatively. That usually renders the entire conversation useless.
2) Expertise. Even neutrals who aren't trained refs can rarely make useful assessments of a ref's performance. They just don't know what to look for. Even if they know the game, and even if they know refereeing, they need a sense of how a referee develops. It's much the same as coaching developing players. Not all "mistakes" are the same. Some are good learning opportunities, others are just failures. The "coach" needs to know the difference.

If anyone is actually serious about improving things (???), here are 2 inexpensive models I have personally witnessed making a difference in youth leagues:
1) Position the assignor at the fields. This works well for clubs that have many contiguous fields. No assignor wants problems. They will instantly identify which refs are making their lives more difficult and move them down the totem pole.
2) Hire roaming assessors. These don't have to be trained fifa badges. They can just be your more experienced referees. Give them the authority to give feedback (discreetly) to the other refs and pass evaluations to the assessor.

OK, I spewed all that because I felt an obligation to all the youth refs out there.
But now I must bring up that this was U11G?
Imagine your league already had a assessment/ranking system in place for its refs.
How much farther down can someone be pushed than U11G?
So, unless this is a ref that needs to be banned for life, I find it hard to imagine any fault lies with the reffing crew.
Where the H#LL are refs supposed to learn????
They don't pop out of their mother's womb wearing a FIFA badge for heaven's sake.

Good post. I am sorry to say that the expectations of parents, even @ U -11 , for prefection , and as indicated in some posts here becasue money is being shelled out, makes it difficult for young Referees to grow.

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Good post. I am sorry to say that the expectations of parents, even @ U -11 , for prefection , and as indicated in some posts here becasue money is being shelled out, makes it difficult for young Referees to grow.

maybe if there was better oversight at the national level and not all of these damm leagues, then maybe every facet of the game can grow.

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who said nick is a role model? he's one of a dozen coaches these kids will have as they continue playing sports. I'm sure you've never lost your temper with your kids. maybe you should join nick on redemption island.

keep it coming.

How dumb are you? EVERY COACH IS A ROLE MODEL.