U13 Girls Spring Predictions Thread

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Funny that cos he has no rep in getting college placements but fills the NEFC people like btdt so full of sh1t that it's hook line and sinker. What a crock !

Rep is meaningless. He has the goods and real relationships. History at NEFC is meaningless to date as the club has only recently become a power on the girls side and it really has started with his U16 team. Don't know about his sales job, but I can tell you he is connected and respected by college coaches accross the country.

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You are dreaming if you think CH doesn't have better connections than JD. Who is JD? All he is is just a youth soccer coach, plain and simple. CH was the assistant head coach at BC. Don't for a moment buy the Stars koolaide, most college coaches will put a lot more faith in a phone call from a fellow college coach than they will one from a youth coach.

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The difference is that nobody cares about CH's players.

Also, if you think nearly every major college coach in the East and most in the country dont have JDs cell # you are dead wrong. Too many good players over too many years... Hamblin just hasnt been in that position yet.

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You are dreaming if you think CH doesn't have better connections than JD. Who is JD? All he is is just a youth soccer coach, plain and simple. CH was the assistant head coach at BC. Don't for a moment buy the Stars koolaide, most college coaches will put a lot more faith in a phone call from a fellow college coach than they will one from a youth coach.

most ridiculous post in years!!!!!

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most ridiculous post in years!!!!!

LOL. That Koolaide must taste good!!!!!!

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LOL. That Koolaide must taste good!!!!!!

Maybe you drink kool-aide at your club, we drink the POWER-ADE at the BIG club!

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Laughable. Truly laughable.

Families and the girls themselves do all the work. JD, LB, MM, CH, whoever the girls' coach is just helps the process. None of them have any better "connections" or believability or any great boost. Its about the girls them selves and their abilities to perform on the field and how good a job they do selling them selves and how well they play at the specific games the coaches are there to see.

Here is the truth. The families do 95% of the work. Haven't met a DOC yet who was involved in any of it. Too much work to get involved with every player in the program and they certainly aren't going to be making calls for low level prospects. At best they will be involved with the easy, high profile ones. (Who wouldn't like to make calls for them? It pads their resume) The team coach usually helps a bit but don't expect miracles. It depends upon their relationships and who they actually know well enough to get respect from. Don't expect the team coaches to do much selling for the kids and forget about any guidance about what programs would be a good fit. Best case you will get an introduction and the rest will be up to you and your child to figure out. Have fun because it sounds like you all have a lot to learn!!

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..interesting smoke screen you are throwing up but you are pointing at the wrong people.. did you know that jd personally spoke out against having any recruiting restrictions in nep.. are you aware that the stars budget a sizeable amount for recruiting and they use it pretty aggressively.. rumor has it that jd has personally reached out to several of the top players in this age group.. word is he offered the nh girl a two for one deal.. supposedly also told the family he would personally make phone calls to college coaches for her.. one of the other top players is supposedly getting their travel costs picked up.. so if you think anything that anyone is posting here is going to radically change the landscape you are naive

The Stars hype machine clearly is in overdrive. Last week it was the ECNL debate and this week we are elevating JD to the realm of saint hood. Don't any of you understand what is happening here? This is all part of the marketing campaign. Time for a reality check.

The U13 Stars team is not all that strong and if they are going to compete in the top ECNL brackets in the years to come, they will need a substantial talent make over. The Stars brass knows that they don't have any top tier talent and only 3 players on the roster could be considered anywhere near above average talents. None of those are true impact players who project out to be anything but low level prospects and that is not anywhere near enough to compete on the national stage the Stars have selected for this team. The rest of the team is filled with role players who are nothing more than cannon fodder to the Stars. They are there to pay the bills but will never reap any benefits for doing it. The Stars hype machine is out selling hard because they know that unless they fix this team now the wheels are going to come off the bus real fast. Be careful about this situation because joining the team now could be like joining the crew of the Titanic for its maiden voyage.

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The Stars hype machine clearly is in overdrive. Last week it was the ECNL debate and this week we are elevating JD to the realm of saint hood. Don't any of you understand what is happening here? This is all part of the marketing campaign. Time for a reality check.

The U13 Stars team is not all that strong and if they are going to compete in the top ECNL brackets in the years to come, they will need a substantial talent make over. The Stars brass knows that they don't have any top tier talent and only 3 players on the roster could be considered anywhere near above average talents. None of those are true impact players who project out to be anything but low level prospects and that is not anywhere near enough to compete on the national stage the Stars have selected for this team. The rest of the team is filled with role players who are nothing more than cannon fodder to the Stars. They are there to pay the bills but will never reap any benefits for doing it. The Stars hype machine is out selling hard because they know that unless they fix this team now the wheels are going to come off the bus real fast. Be careful about this situation because joining the team now could be like joining the crew of the Titanic for its maiden voyage.

They will attract the best talent b/c they are the Stars. They will produce some and then recruit the rest and build yet another excellent team. I would say NEFC and other "top" clubs are more of a gamble at this point b/c they are unproven and still playing catch up. Yes, they might get there, but not yet. Don't underestimate the power of the Stars, a bit like a black hole but a very strong pull on talent. BTW the Stars U12G are the best team in that age group so even if the 13's aren't there (yet), there are more good Stars teams headed thru the system.

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Rep is meaningless. He has the goods and real relationships. History at NEFC is meaningless to date as the club has only recently become a power on the girls side and it really has started with his U16 team. Don't know about his sales job, but I can tell you he is connected and respected by college coaches accross the country.

Yes like it or not he and his teams have a stellar reputation and consistently produce good teams and players. CH has yet to prove anything.

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Even if you look at Regional Rankings, there is a difference in the Brackets (I listed the State and Regional rankings below). Though, I do agree with many of the unregistered posters on TS, rankings at U13 do not completely give an accurate picture of a team's strength. I did not know Aztecs brought a guest player, but had heard NEFC played with a guest player. NEFC's new team member did not travel with the team this weekend, that could be why they used the regional player from NH/or, maybe they are trying to recruit her to play for NEFC). Either way, it is a tournament, teams use guest players, I am not sure why it is presented so rudely on this thread. SSC used a guest player, their own U13 Premier team goalie played with the Elite team this weekend as the goalie.


Championship Division, SSC 2-1-1 (9-4, GD 5)
FC Sting (NJ 2, R1 2)
Penn Legacy (PAE 1, R1 7)
CRUSA/FC Bucks (PAE 2, R1 13)
Montgomery SC (MD 1, R1 32)


Superior Division, Aztecs 2-1-1 (8-6, GD 2)
FC Revolution (PAE 5 R1 15)
East Meadow (NYE 4, R1 30)
PWSI (VA 2, R1 57)
Beadling Wolfpack (PAW 2, R1 75)


Classic Division, NEFC 2-1-1 (9-4, GD 5)
YMS Premier (PAE 7, R1 18)
Patriots SC (NYE 3, R1 28)
Twin City (NC 6, R3 70)
Beach FC (VA 12, R1 85)

Generally like your post and message. Especially the issue about guest players. We use them all the time. The thing about the rankings is they don't really tell nearly as much as you would like to project. I actually think there is very little separating most of these teams and the differences right now are the result of individual match ups rather than true team strength. For example, NEFC took apart a team 4-0 that was ranked 18 in R1 yet lost a 1-0 game to a team that was ranked 28 in R1. Looking at your league results from last fall they tied your team 1-1. Do any of those results say that team is any less competitive than yours? No, these ranking are merely a function how many tournaments a team is willing to enter. The teams in the tri-state area typically enter a lot more tournaments than your Mass teams because they don't have to travel much to get to them. As you are seeing that doesn't necessarily give them an edge when you play them.

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Yes like it or not he and his teams have a stellar reputation and consistently produce good teams and players. CH has yet to prove anything.

Are you announcing a coaching change?

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It's way too early to say who is going to be what. It is clear though several things have changed in a big way over the last few years.
- Clubs like MPS and NEFC have become destination teams for many talented players and are the "anti-Stars" in many, many ways
- After several years of being the clear front runner in what is now the older ages - U18 and U17, the Stars armor is starting to show some rust with several teams no longer being the talent laden clear front runners. U16 being the poster child for this with the Scorpions being the only truly dominent player
- The talent level in MA is still on the rise which makes it far more difficult to accumulate the kinds of dominent teams that Stars was able to accomplish in the recent past
- The ECNL has had several impacts on the marketplace and in some ways has done the exact opposite of what Stars, Eclipse and the other founders were trying to accomplish and that is clearing space for the next group of clubs regionally and nationally to carve out a strong niche and get into the top showcases and show their abilities on a regional and national stage that was previously next to impossible to accomplish
- The Scorpions, despite being in the ECNL and having a true national power in their U16 team, have seemingly been unable to make much if any gain in stature or move much past their small albeit highly successful small club niche on the south shore
- The Aztecs have been able to keep their head down avoiding the public infighting of the Stars, Scorpions, NEFC and MPS and have gained significant momentum as well and have become a club developing strong players and some real success as well
- The playing field keeps evolving and the one thing that history shows is that there is always clubs on the rise and clubs on the decline, either within small age groups or more sweeping accross the whole club
Relax and enjoy the ride as what you experience today is only a learning moment in a long term journey. It is clear however that a female soccer player in this state has far more choice than just a few years ago and these choices are becoming more clear and a fit can be far easier to find.

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They will attract the best talent b/c they are the Stars. They will produce some and then recruit the rest and build yet another excellent team. I would say NEFC and other "top" clubs are more of a gamble at this point b/c they are unproven and still playing catch up. Yes, they might get there, but not yet. Don't underestimate the power of the Stars, a bit like a black hole but a very strong pull on talent. BTW the Stars U12G are the best team in that age group so even if the 13's aren't there (yet), there are more good Stars teams headed thru the system.

you have got to love the stars.. they are the best at selling a pipe dream.. how is this for logic go to the star because they have always been great... if that doesnt work, we know we are not strong in your age group but the one behind you is awesome... that about sum up what you wrote...

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Yes like it or not he and his teams have a stellar reputation and consistently produce good teams and players. CH has yet to prove anything.

This recurring Stars argument is so silly. Of course JD has a long list of successes. That happens when you start a club by taking effectively an entire state ODP team and start a club. It happens when you take your biggest competitor in an age group and merge it into your club. It happens when you collect the best players in a tri-state area in a short period of time on three age groups. It's history and it's a resume builder. There's no doubt its been successful.

It's a lot harder to build a resume when you start with a small club and work to build it the old fashioned way with an academy program and expansion at younger ages. It takes time for those seeds to show results. No one disputes that.

What you blind supporters of the Stars at these early ages just don't understand is that that success really has absolutely nothing to do with the future success of the Stars teams at U12. 13, 14 and 15. Success as a team is based on a collection of talent and national level success is based on having one or two true game changers. Those game changers are the ones that will go to the great college programs you young parents are dreaming about. Reality is that all but one or two of you are simply that - dreamers.

The ride is about far more than being on the perceived best team, especially one based on prior age groups success. Its about a great fit for your child and a team that makes her happy and helps her get to where she wants to be and can achieve.

Open your eyes. Marketing is intended to make you believe what is not a fact. LEarn the facts for yourselves.