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    #46
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    No it isn't.

    Marta is the best player in the World.

    Donovan is the best player in the US.

    I am not sure what is so hard to comprehend here.

    Landon has proven himself in the EPL, which means that he is a world class player But Marta belongs in a higher tier of 'world-class' than Donovan does.
    Now you are sounding just plain dumb. Marta is the best player in the world? Do you think Lionel Messi would agree? And you obviously aren't much of a soccer fan not to know that Donovan continues to play for the LA Galaxy. He was on a 10 week loan to Everton during which the club named him Player of the Month.

    Donovan is considered among the Top 50 players of the 2010 World Cup. While Marta is considered the top women's soccer player in the world, do you seriously think she could compete against Donovan?

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      #47
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Why is it obnoxious as opposed to merely untrue?
      Because it is obviously untrue.

      Because it lacks a general understanding of soccer beyond what immediately meets your eye.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Now you are sounding just plain dumb. Marta is the best player in the world? Do you think Lionel Messi would agree? And you obviously aren't much of a soccer fan not to know that Donovan continues to play for the LA Galaxy. He was on a 10 week loan to Everton during which the club named him Player of the Month.

        Donovan is considered among the Top 50 players of the 2010 World Cup. While Marta is considered the top women's soccer player in the world, do you seriously think she could compete against Donovan?
        The stupid - it hurts! I wasn't even arguing that point! Read the damn thread.

        Obviously I meant that she is the best Women's player in the world. It would be against my premise that I have been maintaining this entire thread to suggest otherwise!

        And I think you are mixing your OPs up ... I wasn't the one who suggested that Donovan still played for EFC... I posted:

        Little behind huh? He has been back at LA since the end of the WC and is currently debating if he wants to back to the EPL.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Now you are sounding just plain dumb. Marta is the best player in the world? Do you think Lionel Messi would agree? And you obviously aren't much of a soccer fan not to know that Donovan continues to play for the LA Galaxy. He was on a 10 week loan to Everton during which the club named him Player of the Month.

          Donovan is considered among the Top 50 players of the 2010 World Cup. While Marta is considered the top women's soccer player in the world, do you seriously think she could compete against Donovan?
          Somebody is having a hard time with the internet today huh?

          He has actually been suggesting that even thou Marta is the best WOMANS player in the world - she still couldn't play in the MLS.

          Please pay attention. This is the internet. Important stuff!

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            #50
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The stupid - it hurts! I wasn't even arguing that point! Read the damn thread.

            Obviously I meant that she is the best Women's player in the world. It would be against my premise that I have been maintaining this entire thread to suggest otherwise!

            And I think you are mixing your OPs up ... I wasn't the one who suggested that Donovan still played for EFC... I posted:
            It appears that you are the one having trouble reading today. Take a look at my post #46 and note what I responding to.

            No it isn't.

            Marta is the best player in the World.

            Donovan is the best player in the US.

            I am not sure what is so hard to comprehend here.

            Landon has proven himself in the EPL, which means that he is a world class player But Marta belongs in a higher tier of 'world-class' than Donovan does.
            If you didn't write that post, then I'm not referring to you. If you are the one who said Marta is the best player in the world and Donovan only the best player in the US who thinks he's sitting the bench at Everton, then I was.

            I repeat, Donovan is considered among the top 50 in the 2010 WC, so he is much more than just the top American player.

            And BTW what top world league has Marta proven herself? You certainly can't be comparing WPS to the EPL. That is not only dumb, it's stupid.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Somebody is having a hard time with the internet today huh?

              He has actually been suggesting that even thou Marta is the best WOMANS player in the world - she still couldn't play in the MLS.

              Please pay attention. This is the internet. Important stuff!
              Huh??? I think you are the one having a difficult internat day.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                No it isn't.

                Marta is the best player in the World.

                Donovan is the best player in the US.

                I am not sure what is so hard to comprehend here.

                Landon has proven himself in the EPL, which means that he is a world class player But Marta belongs in a higher tier of 'world-class' than Donovan does.

                Donovan is world class. It's amazing how much prejudice there is against American soccer players just because they are American. Another soccer bigot.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  And BTW what top world league has Marta proven herself? You certainly can't be comparing WPS to the EPL. That is not only dumb, it's stupid.
                  You're not suggesting she has no international experience?

                  Anyway you overrating Donovan by suggesting he is top 50 in world becasue he may have been voted top 50 wc 10. Which I don't think agrees with my understanding of what I saw in wc 10, but that is neither here nor there.

                  I do think he was contributing at Everton in his mid late twenties which I think is a good start for US soccer. And you're right he is back at LAG, so I am behind the times there sorry about that.

                  Anyway, I think it's kind of interesting to talk about Donovan in the context of gender neutral qualities regarding soccer because here is one that both men and women can possess equally: mental toughness.

                  Earlier I mentioned the horrible dish off with US hopes of getting into round of 16 on the line in '06. That was a play where a much younger Donovan was completely intimidated by his surroundings and made a bad choice on the field which I don't think other players coming from other non-us club development systems would have made. The idea of Marta passing off in that context is completely incomprehensible (I also don't think Donovan would do that now, 4 years later).

                  But to people who sneer at women playing soccer, I think you should open your eyes a little and appreciate the great qualities of the game wherever they may be expressed.

                  And this could lead to a whole 'nother discussion on how the US Club system propogates mentally wimpy players who have to be on elite teams beating competition 8-0 all the time or else they run away and think that the effort isn't worth it....but that's for another thread.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If you didn't write that post, then I'm not referring to you. If you are the one who said Marta is the best player in the world and Donovan only the best player in the US who thinks he's sitting the bench at Everton, then I was.
                    This is incoherent. Did you mean to use the double negative?

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Donovan is world class. It's amazing how much prejudice there is against American soccer players just because they are American. Another soccer bigot.
                      I think it is important to define the term 'World Class' because I think a discrepancy in our definition is causing a lot of our argument.

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