2011 Boys Soccer Verbal Commitments

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I don't know anything about your criteria. Except what you choose to post. If you don't want to open yourself up to criticism, then don't post your personal stuff. We don't sympathize with you. Hell, we don't even respect you.

I think you've got the wrong poster. I haven't posted anything about my kid.

It is interesting, though, that posters are attacking one particular kid when literally hundreds of kids' choices have been posted on this site.

You are the one caught up in a maze of arrogance that you can't see and will never find your way out of.

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I think you've got the wrong poster. I haven't posted anything about my kid.

It is interesting, though, that posters are attacking one particular kid when literally hundreds of kids' choices have been posted on this site.

You are the one caught up in a maze of arrogance that you can't see and will never find your way out of.

Do you have the ability to think outside a thimble?

All people arrogant enough to think we care where their kids are going to college were called out. One particular poster who posted a particularly arrogant explanation was called out as an example. And rightly so in my opinion, with the way that read.

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literally hundreds of kids'

maybe 30, not hundreds

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maybe 30, not hundreds

I said "this site"....not this thread...check out 2010s, commitmentsss, etc

To the poster above, you DO care....way too much... that's why you and your ilk spend so much time padding resumes online, highlighting U12 training/vacation trips to Europe and hop on the PG/gap train when your desperate and pathetic obsessed dreams fall short. You make everyone else look like pictures of modesty.

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I know you don't want to believe it, but some people just keep their information off of this forum - they just don't want to go through all the grief some of you put the players through. My child (and many of his friends) are indeed committed to some pretty great schools. Before you ask - yes, they will be playing soccer.

You honey, are the one who keeps talking about "my child". For all the reasons you mention, no normal parent puts their kid out there for the anonymous ridicule thrown around on this website. You on the otherhand, continually bring up your kid and his maturity, how good he is despite not playing DAP or being on any list anywhere, how great a student he is despite not chasing a DI school. You never miss an opportunitty to remind us - over and over again.... The only difference between you and the parent you are so hung up on is your anonymity.

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You honey, are the one who keeps talking about "my child". For all the reasons you mention, no normal parent puts their kid out there for the anonymous ridicule thrown around on this website. You on the otherhand, continually bring up your kid and his maturity, how good he is despite not playing DAP or being on any list anywhere, how great a student he is despite not chasing a DI school. You never miss an opportunitty to remind us - over and over again.... The only difference between you and the parent you are so hung up on is your anonymity.

I was agreeing with you, except for one thing. The person you quoted is a DAP person, as are the others who are attacking someone whose crime was responding to a vicious poster. The story here is wonderfully elite club relations gone south.

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I said "this site"....not this thread...check out 2010s, commitmentsss, etc

To the poster above, you DO care....way too much... that's why you and your ilk spend so much time padding resumes online, highlighting U12 training/vacation trips to Europe and hop on the PG/gap train when your desperate and pathetic obsessed dreams fall short. You make everyone else look like pictures of modesty.

You're an ass. Only two types of people care. One group wants to know so they can boast about their kids accomplishments. The other group wants to know so they can tear down the choices and decisions of others. Your dreams are not your kid's dreams. But hey-these people can boast about where therir kid goes at swanky obnoxious cocktail parties.

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You're an ass. Only two types of people care. One group wants to know so they can boast about their kids accomplishments. The other group wants to know so they can tear down the choices and decisions of others. Your dreams are not your kid's dreams. But hey-these people can boast about where therir kid goes at swanky obnoxious cocktail parties.

A third smaller group cares but unfortunately they are mostly drowned out. Many of us non-soccer gods look to see how players we have seen and know wind up to get a reality based view of what reasonable expectations our own players should have. Speaking for myself, it cuts through a lot of the hype from coaches, clubs, other parents, etc. When my son took a look at where players wound up who he played with and against, he had a pretty good idea about where he might fit into the whole picture.

Unfortunately, the two groups you mention are much louder and nastier as a whole.

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A third smaller group cares but unfortunately they are mostly drowned out. Many of us non-soccer gods look to see how players we have seen and know wind up to get a reality based view of what reasonable expectations our own players should have. Speaking for myself, it cuts through a lot of the hype from coaches, clubs, other parents, etc. When my son took a look at where players wound up who he played with and against, he had a pretty good idea about where he might fit into the whole picture.

Unfortunately, the two groups you mention are much louder and nastier as a whole.

But there are a lot of people that pick schools for hosts of non soccer reasons: Location, size, majors, study abroad programs, etc. You can't judge where your son falls on the soccer scale because tghe kids you are using for comaprison are making decisions based on other factors. As they should. Picking a school because of it's name, reputation, or just athletic offering more often than not leads to an unhappy experience.

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But there are a lot of people that pick schools for hosts of non soccer reasons: Location, size, majors, study abroad programs, etc. You can't judge where your son falls on the soccer scale because tghe kids you are using for comaprison are making decisions based on other factors. As they should. Picking a school because of it's name, reputation, or just athletic offering more often than not leads to an unhappy experience.

I should have mentioned that where others went just set up tracking who made squads, who played, etc. There were some nice summaries last fall based on 2010 commitments. It really clarified how good a player you needed to be to see the field at various schools in various conferences.

of course other issues come into play in school choice, but if soccer is even part of the equation then this is an unvarnished way to evaluate what it takes.

Tell me - if they were two or three players that owned your child's team and even yours as an individual every time they played for years, then you saw that those players saw the field yet struggled for time in their first year at college, wouldn't you find that illuminating?

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I should have mentioned that where others went just set up tracking who made squads, who played, etc. There were some nice summaries last fall based on 2010 commitments. It really clarified how good a player you needed to be to see the field at various schools in various conferences.

of course other issues come into play in school choice, but if soccer is even part of the equation then this is an unvarnished way to evaluate what it takes.

Tell me - if they were two or three players that owned your child's team and even yours as an individual every time they played for years, then you saw that those players saw the field yet struggled for time in their first year at college, wouldn't you find that illuminating?

Of course it would be illuminating, but you there are other factors: returning players, psoitions, style of play, etc. The best advice we've heard is to make sure the kid would be happy academically if they broke a leg and couldn't play. We've watched players we know commit early, find out they hated the school and the soccer, and have transferred. You just hope people make the right decisions for the right reasons. But I see a lot of parents forcing kids to schools with a certain prestige, or kids picking schools 98% for soccer and not enough consideration given to the academic and social aspects.

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I should have mentioned that where others went just set up tracking who made squads, who played, etc. There were some nice summaries last fall based on 2010 commitments. It really clarified how good a player you needed to be to see the field at various schools in various conferences.

of course other issues come into play in school choice, but if soccer is even part of the equation then this is an unvarnished way to evaluate what it takes.

Tell me - if they were two or three players that owned your child's team and even yours as an individual every time they played for years, then you saw that those players saw the field yet struggled for time in their first year at college, wouldn't you find that illuminating?

There are a lot of different agendas and rationalizations going on here, but the answer to your question is "Yes, absolutely." Finding out that a kid your kid has played against, that you always assumed would be a good D1 players, is now now struggling to get a commitment to a good D3 or has gone to a D3 and is not getting much playing time....all of that is very illuminating. And I guarantee you that most parents of kids on higher level MAPLE D1 teams and in the specialty leagues (Region 1, pre-DAP, DAP, ECNL, etc) assume their kids are on track for D1 even if they are not expecting a ton of athletic scholarship money. Of course the vast majority of them are wrong, and nothing corrects perceptions better than seeing a player you really respect have to fight his way just to get into a D3 scenario.

The side chatter about fit and location and such of course matters, but the truth is that these folks learned something along the way. If the kid was good enough, they'd find a fit and location and majors and social life that roughly jived with the level of soccer talent....especially since many of these very people spent years chasing the soccer dream. They land where they land for a reason. UNC-level impact players don't go to Williams or Trinity or SNHU or Bryn Mawr. If someone tells you he is the exception smile kindly but do not for a second believe him.

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You're an ass. Only two types of people care. One group wants to know so they can boast about their kids accomplishments. The other group wants to know so they can tear down the choices and decisions of others. Your dreams are not your kid's dreams. But hey-these people can boast about where therir kid goes at swanky obnoxious cocktail parties.

So I guess this means you won't be allowing the Bolts (or your new DAP team?) to post your commitment on their website, right? Just like you never posted a mountain of resume stats or heavily pursued a TopDrawer ranking?

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There are a lot of different agendas and rationalizations going on here, but the answer to your question is "Yes, absolutely." Finding out that a kid your kid has played against, that you always assumed would be a good D1 players, is now now struggling to get a commitment to a good D3 or has gone to a D3 and is not getting much playing time....all of that is very illuminating. And I guarantee you that most parents of kids on higher level MAPLE D1 teams and in the specialty leagues (Region 1, pre-DAP, DAP, ECNL, etc) assume their kids are on track for D1 even if they are not expecting a ton of athletic scholarship money. Of course the vast majority of them are wrong, and nothing corrects perceptions better than seeing a player you really respect have to fight his way just to get into a D3 scenario.

The side chatter about fit and location and such of course matters, but the truth is that these folks learned something along the way. If the kid was good enough, they'd find a fit and location and majors and social life that roughly jived with the level of soccer talent....especially since many of these very people spent years chasing the soccer dream. They land where they land for a reason. UNC-level impact players don't go to Williams or Trinity or SNHU or Bryn Mawr. If someone tells you he is the exception smile kindly but do not for a second believe him.

Some kids, especially at D1 realize the time committment and bow out. Or they want to study abroad but a spring season prevents that. Or maybe they just tire of the daily grind and decide to spend more time on academic, social activities, fraternities, etc. It happens. People change.

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There are a lot of different agendas and rationalizations going on here, but the answer to your question is "Yes, absolutely." Finding out that a kid your kid has played against, that you always assumed would be a good D1 players, is now now struggling to get a commitment to a good D3 or has gone to a D3 and is not getting much playing time....all of that is very illuminating. And I guarantee you that most parents of kids on higher level MAPLE D1 teams and in the specialty leagues (Region 1, pre-DAP, DAP, ECNL, etc) assume their kids are on track for D1 even if they are not expecting a ton of athletic scholarship money. Of course the vast majority of them are wrong, and nothing corrects perceptions better than seeing a player you really respect have to fight his way just to get into a D3 scenario.

The side chatter about fit and location and such of course matters, but the truth is that these folks learned something along the way. If the kid was good enough, they'd find a fit and location and majors and social life that roughly jived with the level of soccer talent....especially since many of these very people spent years chasing the soccer dream. They land where they land for a reason. UNC-level impact players don't go to Williams or Trinity or SNHU or Bryn Mawr. If someone tells you he is the exception smile kindly but do not for a second believe him.

That is basically my point. Seeing in flesh and blood terms what it takes to play at various levels cuts through a lot of rationalizations. You are quite right. Those chasing the dream typically overestimate. Sure, an occasional kid might not go D1 because he/she has heart set o0n a semester away, but they are outnumbered by the parents who are not realistic for years, get their own egos out on the line (why I don't know), then twist themselves into pretzels later with rationalizations.