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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The DAP is getting a lot of attention, and there are a lot of ardent defenders. Seems like would be fair for you folks to post the final outcomes for 2011 DAP graduates. D1? D2? D3? Professional? No college? PG year? This is supposedly a national program that we as soccer fans all have a stake in, right? Then why the secret society act? Let's see the actual results for Massachusetts DAP kids.
    Did you ever read the book Right Stuff by Tom Wolf or see the movie? The plot there was the winnowing process that goes into the "right stuff" to become the first astronauts. All the characters were talented and ambitious, but as the skills and commitment got more and more demanding, only a few had "he right stuff" to move on. It isn't different with soccer, as kids move up the ladder some have the "right stuff" and others don't. In the end, there;s a lot more failure than success.

    But I don't sense that's what you are looking for, you want a number to judge success or failure by. How many DAP players turn professional, how many DAP players play Division I soccer, how many DAP players don't go to college.

    You tell us the question and some one will get you the answer.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It's September Mr. DAP!!!

      Where's the beef???
      If, by "beef", you still want us to believe that anything lower than D1 is a failure, then I'm hoping you choke on a chicken bone.

      If your inquiry is more about how the freshmen are getting on at the schools they chose to attend, then I'm sure many people will be happy to reply and let usall know.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Did you ever read the book Right Stuff by Tom Wolf or see the movie? The plot there was the winnowing process that goes into the "right stuff" to become the first astronauts. All the characters were talented and ambitious, but as the skills and commitment got more and more demanding, only a few had "he right stuff" to move on. It isn't different with soccer, as kids move up the ladder some have the "right stuff" and others don't. In the end, there;s a lot more failure than success.

        But I don't sense that's what you are looking for, you want a number to judge success or failure by. How many DAP players turn professional, how many DAP players play Division I soccer, how many DAP players don't go to college.

        You tell us the question and some one will get you the answer.
        I don't think the question was in code. Just list the rostered players from 2011 grads and their destinations this year. Not that hard. We basically get that from Stars and Scorps every year. What's to hide?

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I don't think the question was in code. Just list the rostered players from 2011 grads and their destinations this year. Not that hard. We basically get that from Stars and Scorps every year. What's to hide?
          If you go back in the thread and see where/college the HS Class of 2011 was heading and then check the college statistics you'll see that a number of the Class of 2011 (both DAP and non-DAP) are playing at their respective colleges (all levels) and doing well.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            If you go back in the thread and see where/college the HS Class of 2011 was heading and then check the college statistics you'll see that a number of the Class of 2011 (both DAP and non-DAP) are playing at their respective colleges (all levels) and doing well.
            Oh, so NOW you want to include non-DAP????

            I already know the non-DAP group is very well represented, esp in D3. The question is about DAP. I would think a national, very public, and very acclaimed program like DAP would be dying to post the results. No? Is that not the case? And again, we don't need to hear about RI kids, PG kids, or kids committed before they started with DAP.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Oh, so NOW you want to include non-DAP????

              I already know the non-DAP group is very well represented, esp in D3. The question is about DAP. I would think a national, very public, and very acclaimed program like DAP would be dying to post the results. No? Is that not the case? And again, we don't need to hear about RI kids, PG kids, or kids committed before they started with DAP.
              Wow. Not the OP and not a DAP guy, but let it go. They are onto college and a number (yes, both non-DAP and DAP) seem to be doing well so far in the college game. congratulations to all of them and continued success.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Wow. Not the OP and not a DAP guy, but let it go. They are onto college and a number (yes, both non-DAP and DAP) seem to be doing well so far in the college game. congratulations to all of them and continued success.
                So, seriously, you think it is unreasonable to ask for a list of destinations for DAP graduates? There are entire threads about how great DAP is and kids giving up HS soccer for DAP, and you think asking for outcome data is out of line? I would think it is an obligation. I know this much. If the outcome data was outstanding we would see it in spades. Just sayin'.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Oh, so NOW you want to include non-DAP????

                  I already know the non-DAP group is very well represented, esp in D3. The question is about DAP. I would think a national, very public, and very acclaimed program like DAP would be dying to post the results. No? Is that not the case? And again, we don't need to hear about RI kids, PG kids, or kids committed before they started with DAP.
                  Geez, you are an insufferable bastard. Every school posts its roster on line. If you're THAT curious what schools these boys are attending, the information is there for you.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If you go back in the thread and see where/college the HS Class of 2011 was heading and then check the college statistics you'll see that a number of the Class of 2011 (both DAP and non-DAP) are playing at their respective colleges (all levels) and doing well.
                    See above. Agree go the college websites and check it for yourself and report back to us if you want to know that bad.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Geez, you are an insufferable bastard. Every school posts its roster on line. If you're THAT curious what schools these boys are attending, the information is there for you.
                      Pretty violent response. So I take it you don't believe an organization like DAP should publish their destination outcomes on a yearly basis? The consumers and potential consumers should just keep coming without any outcome data? Is this a secret society or a national organization?

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Pretty violent response. So I take it you don't believe an organization like DAP should publish their destination outcomes on a yearly basis? The consumers and potential consumers should just keep coming without any outcome data? Is this a secret society or a national organization?
                        It's a soccer business no more and no less just like the non-DAP Clubs. If you don't like how they do business then don't participate. If you want to know every little nitty gritty detail about players in HS and College, then read the girls soccer threads because over there no stone is left unturned.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Pretty violent response. So I take it you don't believe an organization like DAP should publish their destination outcomes on a yearly basis? The consumers and potential consumers should just keep coming without any outcome data? Is this a secret society or a national organization?
                          No, I don't believe DAP has any obligation to post where participants go to college. Why would they? The goal of DAP is develop players for the national team. I believe they issue press releases when players come through DAP into national teams. That information is on USSOCCER.com.

                          Consumers and potential consumers? Uh, no. Not the point.

                          Secret society......Man, you really have to find something to do with your free time. Your obsession over this (non) issue is a little creepy and disturbing.

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                            2011 mass players d1

                            CD: 5 gp 5 gs 4 goals big east rookie of the week Cincinnati
                            MK: 5 gp 5 gs Umass
                            BA: 2 gp 0 gs UVM
                            JK: 0 gp 0 gs PC
                            TB: 6 gp 6 gs 1 asst PC
                            TM: 3 gp 0 gs BC
                            MD: 1 gp 0 gs BC
                            AB: 6 gp 6 gs HC
                            CB: 3 gp 0 gs UNH
                            JM: 1 gp 0 gs Bucknell
                            AM: 0 gp 0 gs Colgate
                            CB: 0 gp 0 gs Iona
                            MG 2 gp 0 gs Drexel

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                              ^ Thanks. I started to do it but couldn't find some of the GS info so I gave up. Very helpful.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                CD: 5 gp 5 gs 4 goals big east rookie of the week Cincinnati
                                MK: 5 gp 5 gs Umass
                                BA: 2 gp 0 gs UVM
                                JK: 0 gp 0 gs PC
                                TB: 6 gp 6 gs 1 asst PC
                                TM: 3 gp 0 gs BC
                                MD: 1 gp 0 gs BC
                                AB: 6 gp 6 gs HC
                                CB: 3 gp 0 gs UNH
                                JM: 1 gp 0 gs Bucknell
                                AM: 0 gp 0 gs Colgate
                                CB: 0 gp 0 gs Iona
                                MG 2 gp 0 gs Drexel
                                Thought I would reciprocate for a few D3 and D2 names taken from last Spring's TS listing plus added any frosh Mass names while scanning these teams rosters only. I am sure there are many other D2 and D3 Mass players out there, but limited quick look at the TS list only.
                                Some are not on rosters--don't know why--just reporting games played/started to date--don't know who is hurt and who just isn't playing.....


                                SM - Belmont Hill - Stars - Wesleyan-not on roster

                                TM - Phillips Academy - Bolts - Williams-roster

                                AB - Brooks - Bolts DAP - Williams--roster 3GP-3GS

                                LF - Belmont Hill(9th)/Peabody(10-12th) - Bolts DAP - Wheaton-roster 7GP-7GS

                                MR-Framingham/Bridgeton--Wheaton-roster 7GP-7GS
                                SG, Belchertown--Wheaton--roster 3GP-0GS
                                DD, Bourne--Wheaton--roster 5GP--5GS
                                GS -- PG at NMH - Revs DAP -- Tufts--roster 3GP-3GS

                                MM - Middlesex - Bolts - Tufts--roster 3GP-0GS

                                BB - Winchester - Blast - Wesleyan--roster 3GP-3GS

                                RC - Winchester - Blast/Bolts - Wheaton--not on roster

                                DS - Middlesex- FC Stars - Middlebury--not on roster

                                TB - Middlesex - Inter FC - Colby--not on roster

                                JS - Brooks - Bolts DAP - Colby--roster 3GP-1GS
                                KC-Brookline-Colby--roster 3GP-0GS
                                AW-Phillips Andover--Colby roster--3 GP-0GS
                                NR--Colby--BB&N-roster
                                JO--Colby--SJPrep--roster
                                GB--colby--Medway--3GP --0GS
                                BK--Colby--Nashoba--roster
                                BS--Colby--Duxbury--roster
                                PQ--Colby--Rivers--roster

                                ZG (2010) - Thayer(HS)/Hotchkiss(PG) - Crusaders - Williams--roster 3GP--0GS

                                JK - Masconomet - Bolts - Trinity--roster
                                TS--Somerset-Deerfield--Trinity--roster 3GP--0GS

                                DG MF Salem, Mass. Bishop Fenwick SF Vikings Conn College--roster 1GP--1GS
                                DK--St Sebs-Blazers--conn Coll--roster 1 GP--0GS
                                KO--Wellsley--MPS--Conn Coll--roster 3 GP--3GS
                                KC - Norton - NEFC - SNHU--roster 5GP--5GS

                                NC - Sandwich - MPS Crusaders - SNHU--not on roster

                                CP - Ludlow - ? - SNHU--roster 4GP--2 GS

                                LN - NMH - Seacoast - Kenyon--not on roster
                                RM--Natick--Stars--Kenyon--roster--6GP--2GS
                                NP--SilverLake--Kenyon--roster--4 GP--1 GS

                                AN- Concord-Carlisle- No Club- Bates--not on roster

                                WT- Concord-Carlisle- Blazers- Bates--not on roster

                                BW- Concord-Carlisle- No Club- Emory--not on roster

                                ZT--Bates--Ipswich--Milton Ac--roster 1 GP--0GS
                                JS--Bates--Whitmean Hanson--roster 3 GP--1 GS
                                AB -- Cape Cod Academy -- Crusaders United -- Brandeis--roster

                                KJ -- Bourne -- Crusaders United -- Trinity--roster

                                AS -- Marshfield -- Crusaders United -- Rochester--roster 4GP--2GS
                                SDB--Acton-Box--Rocherster--roster--2 GP--0GS

                                MW -- Weymouth -- Crusaders United – Bates--roster

                                TS - Nauset - Crusaders – Brandies--roster--4 GP--0GS
                                FA--Exeter--Brandeis--roster 2 GP--0GS
                                EB--Nantucket--Brandeis--roster
                                ST--Catholic Mem--Brandeis--roster
                                GL--Methuen--Tilton--Brandeis--roster
                                RL--Weymouth--Crusaders/Bolts--roster--4 GP--1GS

                                PLK - Phillips Academy - Revs DAP - Tufts--roster--3 GP--0GS
                                KV--St Marks--tufts--roster
                                NW--Winchester--Tufts--roster

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