2011 Boys Soccer Verbal Commitments

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Well.....it's almost September.

Can we expect to find a large number of PGs???

Get lost. No one cares

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Well, you cared enough to read the thread and take the time to reply.

Was it worth it for you? Did you enjoy the time and effort involved to post a negative message that contributed absolutely nothing? Did you thump your chest with pride after posting your comment?

Try to aim a little higher. You can't be a miserable SOB all your life.

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Well, you cared enough to read the thread and take the time to reply.

Was it worth it for you? Did you enjoy the time and effort involved to post a negative message that contributed absolutely nothing? Did you thump your chest with pride after posting your comment?

Try to aim a little higher. You can't be a miserable SOB all your life.

It's worked this long for him ...why change now?

Interesting that there are so few posting versus last year.

Good luck wherever the kids end up

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Well?

Is the final PGs list bigger than the commits list?

What is the final tally on number of players for whom DAP played a decisive role in their commitments? How many where you could say that for D1 commitments?

I know DAP is dominating recruiting nationwide, but there seems to be little evidence from this year's crop of MA-specific players that DAP made any difference that makes a difference in our area.

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Well?

Is the final PGs list bigger than the commits list?

What is the final tally on number of players for whom DAP played a decisive role in their commitments? How many where you could say that for D1 commitments?

I know DAP is dominating recruiting nationwide, but there seems to be little evidence from this year's crop of MA-specific players that DAP made any difference that makes a difference in our area.

You haven't been reading the forum much. Players in Massacusetts are terrible. There's something in the water or the atmosphere that prevents them from being as good as other players in other parts of the country. Our clubs are terrible. More terrible, apparently, than other clubs in other parts of the country. That can be the only explanation, right?

You want to make quantifiable judgements based on the reporting of college choices of some players. You want to make these judgements without the least bit of consideration or understanding of what factors led a family to make a decision. All for what? To be able to critisize a program that you don't participate in?

Perhaps you can get with the prestige hunting parents of NESCAC schools and ask them some specific questions. Ask them why some of them posted on ESPN Rise that their kids played for a DAP, when, in fact, they didn't. Ask them why they never sought to correct it when we all know for certain that had they been a DAP player and ESPN didn't mention that, that they would have sent three increasingly angry e-mails a day until it got corrected. Ask these parents why perceived prestige of institution was the dominant factor in the college selection process. Ask them how much input their kids had in the decision. Ask them if they even considered an institution that doesn't appear in the top three of some national magazine's flawed ranking.

Then maybe you get some answers.

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It's just a guess and anecdotal, but I think what's different in Mass. is its a more education oriented state than a lot of others to the south and west. Lot of parents here get midway through high school, realize soccer should be moved down the priority list and advise their kids that way. In a lot of the US, that's not happening as much. That's why we seem to have more young players with potential (U10-U14) and relatively fewer who realized that potential. I'm not saying the clubs do their jobs. If the DOCs of the big clubs like Bolts held onto their jobs on the basis of results, you'd see some turnover and better coaching. Right now its all about protecting the money train.

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You haven't been reading the forum much. Players in Massacusetts are terrible. There's something in the water or the atmosphere that prevents them from being as good as other players in other parts of the country. Our clubs are terrible. More terrible, apparently, than other clubs in other parts of the country. That can be the only explanation, right?

You want to make quantifiable judgements based on the reporting of college choices of some players. You want to make these judgements without the least bit of consideration or understanding of what factors led a family to make a decision. All for what? To be able to critisize a program that you don't participate in?

Perhaps you can get with the prestige hunting parents of NESCAC schools and ask them some specific questions. Ask them why some of them posted on ESPN Rise that their kids played for a DAP, when, in fact, they didn't. Ask them why they never sought to correct it when we all know for certain that had they been a DAP player and ESPN didn't mention that, that they would have sent three increasingly angry e-mails a day until it got corrected. Ask these parents why perceived prestige of institution was the dominant factor in the college selection process. Ask them how much input their kids had in the decision. Ask them if they even considered an institution that doesn't appear in the top three of some national magazine's flawed ranking.

Then maybe you get some answers.

How about the mere fact that most high school students (both boys & girls, both athletes and non-athletes) typically will attend a college located within a 2 to 3 hour drive from home at most--not all, but a very large majority. College coaches know this stay close to home mentality/emotion which tugs at the prospective player. Thus, there are very few Mass boy soccer players who typically enroll outside of New England and/or are recruited hard by D1 schools outside our area (not to mention the large pool of qualified male soccer player candidates from the other Regions) . Also, there are only so many D1 soccer programs within New England on the men's side. Add to the equation that there is VERY, VERY LITTLE soccer $$$ on the men's side (especially in New England). Add to the equation that many of the top New England colleges are destination schools with high % of nonNew England applications (including male soccer players who want to go to school here). Ultimately, you end up with the fact that most of the top tier male Massachusetts soccer players end up playing D2 or D3 in New England, not D1. Whether this is from lack of talent, lack of coaching/training, pure college choices (large vs small--urban vs rural...), or is it just a stigma attached to Massachusetts male soccer players? However, I have seen Massachusetts teams over the years play against some of the best teams at these national tournaments and DAP showcases and the Mass boys can play with these teams from accross the country--not saying Mass is better, but certainly there is enough talent here which is as good as other regions, and certainly as good as the other states in Region 1. Why the Mass boys don't get the $$$ scholarship opportunities when available--I don't know because I know some of the "scholarship players" from other States in Region 1 who are going to big D1 soccer schools and there are a number of players from Mass who are IMHO just as good. The players from NJ, NY, MD and VA all seem to be heading to D1 schools---why?--we will never know, however the Clubs from these other states seem to be tied in very tightly with the Eastern D1 schools while the Mass clubs don't appear to have such pull/influence. Also, many of these states have a big State U who does have significant men's soccer $$$ to give out, yet our own UMass has only 2 scholarships on the men's side. However, if soccer will not be your "vocation" in life and you are receiving little or no soccer scholarship $$$ because there is little or none available, then why go the D1 route unless the D1 school is the #1 school choice for a # of other valid reasons to attend, but soccer is not the #1 reason. This player will be attempting to attend the best school for him for all the typical college selection reasons, not just soccer--get into the school you WANT to attend especially if you cannot play soccer (the "if you get hurt and can't play what school do you want to be attending scenario"). This scenario is a little different on the women's side because the women's side in college, as a result of Title IX, has significantly more soccer $$$$ than the men's side, thus the Mass girls certainly have a more lucrative financial pull/advantage to attend at D1--even outside Mass--and the Mass girls have done a tremendous job and deservidly have received numerous soccer $$$ scholarships. Ultimately, don't go searching for the D1 soccer scholarship because on the men's side there are very, very few available--whether you play DAP or non-DAP. If you can utilize soccer to gain an advantage in gaining admission to the college of your choice, then fantastic. If you decide to play college soccer at whatever level D1, D2 or D3, then congratulations and enjoy it, but remember it is a privilege and an extreme committment. Regardless of where the HS Class of 2011 boys played--DAP or non-DAP--best of luck to all of you as you head on to college--enjoy your four years--it's been fun watching you play all these years.

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So how are they doing?

it's almost September and the HS Class of 2011 Boys have been in pre-season and some may have played a game by now. Any news of possible playing time for any of the frosh this coming college season?

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That's one of the healthiest things I've seen written in these forums in some time.

How about the mere fact that most high school students (both boys & girls, both athletes and non-athletes) typically will attend a college located within a 2 to 3 hour drive from home at most--not all, but a very large majority. College coaches know this stay close to home mentality/emotion which tugs at the prospective player. Thus, there are very few Mass boy soccer players who typically enroll outside of New England and/or are recruited hard by D1 schools outside our area (not to mention the large pool of qualified male soccer player candidates from the other Regions) . Also, there are only so many D1 soccer programs within New England on the men's side. Add to the equation that there is VERY, VERY LITTLE soccer $$$ on the men's side (especially in New England). Add to the equation that many of the top New England colleges are destination schools with high % of nonNew England applications (including male soccer players who want to go to school here). Ultimately, you end up with the fact that most of the top tier male Massachusetts soccer players end up playing D2 or D3 in New England, not D1. Whether this is from lack of talent, lack of coaching/training, pure college choices (large vs small--urban vs rural...), or is it just a stigma attached to Massachusetts male soccer players? However, I have seen Massachusetts teams over the years play against some of the best teams at these national tournaments and DAP showcases and the Mass boys can play with these teams from accross the country--not saying Mass is better, but certainly there is enough talent here which is as good as other regions, and certainly as good as the other states in Region 1. Why the Mass boys don't get the $$$ scholarship opportunities when available--I don't know because I know some of the "scholarship players" from other States in Region 1 who are going to big D1 soccer schools and there are a number of players from Mass who are IMHO just as good. The players from NJ, NY, MD and VA all seem to be heading to D1 schools---why?--we will never know, however the Clubs from these other states seem to be tied in very tightly with the Eastern D1 schools while the Mass clubs don't appear to have such pull/influence. Also, many of these states have a big State U who does have significant men's soccer $$$ to give out, yet our own UMass has only 2 scholarships on the men's side. However, if soccer will not be your "vocation" in life and you are receiving little or no soccer scholarship $$$ because there is little or none available, then why go the D1 route unless the D1 school is the #1 school choice for a # of other valid reasons to attend, but soccer is not the #1 reason. This player will be attempting to attend the best school for him for all the typical college selection reasons, not just soccer--get into the school you WANT to attend especially if you cannot play soccer (the "if you get hurt and can't play what school do you want to be attending scenario"). This scenario is a little different on the women's side because the women's side in college, as a result of Title IX, has significantly more soccer $$$$ than the men's side, thus the Mass girls certainly have a more lucrative financial pull/advantage to attend at D1--even outside Mass--and the Mass girls have done a tremendous job and deservidly have received numerous soccer $$$ scholarships. Ultimately, don't go searching for the D1 soccer scholarship because on the men's side there are very, very few available--whether you play DAP or non-DAP. If you can utilize soccer to gain an advantage in gaining admission to the college of your choice, then fantastic. If you decide to play college soccer at whatever level D1, D2 or D3, then congratulations and enjoy it, but remember it is a privilege and an extreme committment. Regardless of where the HS Class of 2011 boys played--DAP or non-DAP--best of luck to all of you as you head on to college--enjoy your four years--it's been fun watching you play all these years.

Well done.

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Some D1 News

it's almost September and the HS Class of 2011 Boys have been in pre-season and some may have played a game by now. Any news of possible playing time for any of the frosh this coming college season?

Buttersworth/HC/Started in their first game
Maqubela/BC/Sub in one of two games
DiFronzo/BC/Not in yet
Bielski/UNH/Not in yet
Miller/Bucknell/Not in yet

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Buttersworth/HC/Started in their first game
Maqubela/BC/Sub in one of two games
DiFronzo/BC/Not in yet
Bielski/UNH/Not in yet
Miller/Bucknell/Not in yet

Any new update on this years college frosh?

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=college+soccer

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Massasoit appears to have a better roster than any D3 team in the state! Wow!

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Massasoit appears to have a better roster than any D3 team in the state! Wow!

I'm sorry. You're the parent of which Massasoit player again?

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I'm sorry. You're the parent of which Massasoit player again?

None.....but I'll claim Baptista, any of the Brockton all-stars, or the Weymouth kid.