Transferring Colleges?

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Totally unenlightened. And you are wrong about subs. SOme programs play 14 players per game many successful programs with coaches that have proven track records play more in NE 10. Just look at the boxscores and you will see some schools with very few subs (2-4 with few minutes) and others with 5-7+ ( for about 50 - 100% more minutes).

It's interesting how the successful coaches realize that you can't play your best 11 for 90 minutes and be competitive late season when you have a schedule that requires 18 games played in 8 weeks. St Rose is a good example of a school that has a very liberal subbing style and has been consistently successful year after year.

Oh and I do assess my kids abilities pretty well and have concluded the coach is either playing favorites, or is under some kind of pressure to assign minutes to kids that has little to do with putting out the most competitive team.

My kid is one of the very fittest kids on the team and scores high on strength tests and middle distance running on the team. As in, finishing first. Please don't talk to me about my kid being in shape. My kid trained for 4 months before coming to this school. Should my kid be starting? No. Should my kid be doing more than passing out water bottles? Yes. I have seen the team play and my kid could be contributing more but is simply not being considered, along with 13 other kids who are tourists on game day.

It's easy to spot a superstar. But when you are dealing with mixed skill players, coaches do not always assess the plusses and minuses correctly. And there are only two superstars on this team, everyone else is working on something.

If as a coach you do not track fitness and provide an outline of a fitness program you are missing out on an important part of the competitive equation. I would not "leave it to the kids."

....oh and the schools that sub usually put in their subs whether the game is close or not because it is a structured part of their game strategy and does not depend on the score. It is only the coaches that run their starters into dust that will only sub when its garbage time.

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It seems that what you see and what coach sees is completely different. As someone experienced in this stuff here is an advice:take your kid to a less competitive and lower division school and move on. If the same happens tell her to suck it up or quit college soccer. Saint Rose disputes recruits with Siena. They can sub the whole 11 and still be as good as the rest. Their depth is about triple or more than of the majority of NE-10 schools almost all the kids are in scholarship. I am very familiar with that team. They have a great chance to be national champions. How many teams can say that? Let me guess they are successful because the coach subs a lot. Be for real!

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It seems that what you see and what coach sees is completely different. As someone experienced in this stuff here is an advice:take your kid to a less competitive and lower division school and move on. If the same happens tell her to suck it up or quit college soccer. Saint Rose disputes recruits with Siena. They can sub the whole 11 and still be as good as the rest. Their depth is about triple or more than of the majority of NE-10 schools almost all the kids are in scholarship. I am very familiar with that team. They have a great chance to be national champions. How many teams can say that? Let me guess they are successful because the coach subs a lot. Be for real!

Male or female?

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Saint Rose disputes recruits with Siena.

What does this mean?

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What does this mean?

Siena (D1) and St. Rose recruit the best players in Albany region. Plenty times St. Rose wins the battle. Basically St. Rose is an above average D1 caliber soccer team playing in D2.

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It seems that what you see and what coach sees is completely different. As someone experienced in this stuff here is an advice:take your kid to a less competitive and lower division school and move on. If the same happens tell her to suck it up or quit college soccer. Saint Rose disputes recruits with Siena. They can sub the whole 11 and still be as good as the rest. Their depth is about triple or more than of the majority of NE-10 schools almost all the kids are in scholarship. I am very familiar with that team. They have a great chance to be national champions. How many teams can say that? Let me guess they are successful because the coach subs a lot. Be for real!

Why do you think subbing is not a factor in how teams play in November?

There are plenty of other non-national ranked teams in NE10 that also sub more than 2-4. I guess they are all gifted with infinitely deep rosters? Or a schedule of laughers? Merrimack, UML, Stonehill, all sub liberally. The teams that are contenders for the tourny year after year seem sub more liberally than others. One exception is FP.

And, one reason that St Rose is successful is because coach reduces the miles on her starters.

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Fp ??

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Siena (D1) and St. Rose recruit the best players in Albany region. Plenty times St. Rose wins the battle. Basically St. Rose is an above average D1 caliber soccer team playing in D2.

All those players from Alley Cats?

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Fp ??

Franklin Pierce

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All those players from Alley Cats?

Not all players from upsate. St Rose gets a lot from central MA.

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2011 St. Rose recruits:

Guzman, Cenayda F Oklahoma City, OK D'Feeters

Minkoff, Lauren GK Cherry Hill, NJ Penn Fusion

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It seems that what you see and what coach sees is completely different. As someone experienced in this stuff here is an advice:take your kid to a less competitive and lower division school and move on. If the same happens tell her to suck it up or quit college soccer. Saint Rose disputes recruits with Siena. They can sub the whole 11 and still be as good as the rest. Their depth is about triple or more than of the majority of NE-10 schools almost all the kids are in scholarship. I am very familiar with that team. They have a great chance to be national champions. How many teams can say that? Let me guess they are successful because the coach subs a lot. Be for real!

Very familiar with the St Rose women's team--the coach subs liberally because she can! The 2nd 10 are just as good as the 1st 10 which cannot be said for any of the rest of the NE-10 or probably any other school in the Northeast Region. They are a fully funded women's soccer program and success breeds success. However, even with their success not everyone in the program is happy (just like any other program) as someone who played alot more as a freshman may not be playing that much now as an upperclassman. On any team beauty is in the eye of the Coach--they play who they want and when they want--and unlike high school there is no one to complain to. The college coach only cares about winning and if he/she thought they had quality depth which could give them 7 additional players playing 30 minutes a game as subs they would do so in a heartbeat if there was no drop off in performance/production. If they are winning and the more players play the better team chemistry is and the better to prepare for injuries during season and for next year.

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East Region (Women's)
1. Saint Rose 19-0-0 19-0-0
2. Franklin Pierce 13-4-1 13-4-1
3. American International 13-5-1 13-5-1
4. C.W. Post 11-1-4 10-1-4
5. Merrimack 12-4-3 12-4-3
6. Southern Connecticut State 8-6-3 8-6-3
7. Bridgeport 13-3-1 13-3-1
8. Stonehill 8-8-2 8-8-2
9. Queens (New York) 11-6-1 11-4-1
10. Southern New Hampshire 10-7-1 10-7-1

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The college coach only cares about winning and if he/she thought they had quality depth which could give them 7 additional players playing 30 minutes a game as subs they would do so in a heartbeat if there was no drop off in performance/production.

Right, well it's not always black and white. Coaches have to make decisions that involve tradeoffs. For example, some starters know the game, but are slow. Some subs don't know the game, but are strong and fast. Some like to kick the ball, some like to play defense. Some are comfortable in the center, some like room on the side. There will always be choices and tradeoffs. The questions is, do you sit kids down for the whole season, because they don't match starter attributes point by point or not?

It will always depend on the coach. Some coaches are adaptive to the abilities on their roster, some aren't. Some work with what they have, some are contemptuous of kids because they are not the players they want them to be or don't fit in their formations. They actually punish them for it.

Anyway, you know what? This thread is off track. The original question was when and how to transfer. I guess the answer is if the kid is unhappy, don't wait leave as quickly as possible, after one semester possibly.

Is it true that providing a release is a non-issue from institutions if the kid did not receive athletic money? Thanks.

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I am sure that players that don't play on game day can go to the practice field and do some running in their own. Coaches can't do anything extra with anyone on a game day. It is called: your kid needs to be R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-L-E. She/he is 18 (you need to realize this!!!) and must know that being fit it is her/his choice. Did you daughter/son present herself in the best shape at preaseason and then it went downhill? By the way you are not paying the coach...the school is paying him/her to put the best team together. Maybe your kid doesn't help. Did you ever think about that? Playing for a competitive college program is a previlege not a right.

You make a couple good points but for the most part your arguments don't hold water. First of all, it is in the coaches best interest to set up an appropriate fitness program for the entire squad. Only a fool of a coach would assume that his team is always doing what is best for the team. Fitness is not a choice for a soccer player - It is M-A-N-D-A-T-O-R-Y (nice touch, don't you think).

Of course the families are paying the coach. No families = No money = No coach. Maybe you are one of those that thinks that you are not paying your state representative, but you are. And last of all - Sure it is a privilege to play college sports but it is also a privilege for the school to have talented young athletes represent them on the playing field.