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And think you are so smart. Face it you have unhappy peeps. -
Carpools???Comment
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Blackberry's and wireless laptops? I would look for the parent on the side lines typing away on the phone, then you will know who the unhappy parent is.Comment
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There may be problems (as there have been with other teams as well) but there are "others" participating here. Those that are unhappy should leave - others have before and others will after. But you don't have to go after someone's livelihood on an anonymous forum.
Don't go after kids; don't go after people's livelihood. Seems like those are pretty basic "don'ts" that many feel free to ignore while anonymous.Comment
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White flag waving haComment
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Where did you see a white flag? I see a poster pointing out that teams have problems and also pointing out it is wrong to mess with someone's income anonymously. Apparently you think it is okay. Good luck with that.Comment
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You make a good point, but it has to be weighed against other's right to know what goes on even if it is just a minority point of view. It could save someone from stepping into what could be a hornets nest.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Since you bring up the point of someone's livelihood, this certainly suggests that club soccer has become a business. Successful businesses respond to their customers. That doesn't mean that someone's livelihood should be lost though, just that there needs to be some corrections and that may simply be to listen to what the expectations of the customer is.Comment
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This is not just an issue with this team, although this team's parents are obviously taking action. However, ask any official who has done this coach's games and you'll be told the sideline behavior can be over the top. This coach might benefit from some anger management courses or taking some time off from the game.Comment
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Over the top is putting it mildly! Lets go BOLTS!!!Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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It seems that people aren't very happy that this coach has beaten their team in the past or has taken players from their team. You guys should move on, let me ask if he's so bad why does he have 20 on his roster? thats what I saw today. Also saw him sit there for both games and didn't say a word(except for the end of the second game having a heated conversation with the Rays coach, who didn't shroud himself in glory today either). Also you are ready to take his players with open arms! what are we looking for here? Character destruction? maybe (he coaches two other teams who seem happy) trolls just causing trouble? who knows. Just worry about your coach and how she/he is developing your child.Comment
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How did this thread evolve (devolve?) from a discussion about the Bolts DOC to a discussion about a Stars coach ?Originally posted by Beachbum View Post
I do not think its fair at all to characterize the U13 Bolts as a team with a troubled reputation. Perhaps you meant a club with a troubled reputation ? The U13 Bolts seem to be one bright spot in the Bolts club's line up of girls teams.
And as for players moving from Div. 1 teams to Div. 2 teams, those of us who have been around for a while have seen it over and over. Let me remind everyone that the Stars began as a single team at U14 when girls all left their first division teams to go to a new team in Division D.
The three things top level players at U13-U15 ought to be seeking is:
1. Teammates whose skill level and commitment is consistent with theirs
2. Quality coaching
3. The opportunity to play regularly
The club, its status, its ranking and the ability to play at high level tournaments are just not that important at these age levels. When U16 rolls around, playing at high level tournaments becomes really important but no college coach cares which team your kid played on at U13.Comment
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I agree that posters should not name children. I respectfully disagree that comments that reflect on coaches or clubs constitute "going after someone's livelihood."Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
First, many of the comments concerned possible player movement. How is that "going after someone's livelihood"?
Second, even if one inferred negative statements, or if other comments directly criticize a coach or describe behavior that many would find inappropriate, why should people in the soccer community take an oath of silence about it? Every person who works gets a reputation - doctors, lawyers, teachers, businesspeople, mechanics, plumbers, builders. If a customer, patient, or client isn't satisfied, shouldn't he or she tell others? That may injure someone's livelihood, but that's the price one pays for failing to give customers what they fairly expect. Sure, it's tough if one disgruntled customer unfairly denigrates a person or institution. But unfair comments usually get corrected. Over time, people get a fair read on who is and isn't good at what she does.
Third, perhaps one believes that anonymous criticism is inappropriate. Maybe sometimes it is. However, anonymity also encourages candor. Companies have anonymous complaint procedures because employees know that they'll suffer if they complain publicly. It therefore makes sense that people who don't feel they can criticize a coach do so anonymously. Indeed, reputation itself is anonymous praise or criticism. When someone has a reputation as a great coach, who stands up personally and says "that reputation is so because I personally say it"? And if the reputation is negative, no one stands up and says so either.
All in all, people should be responsible about what they say, and readers should take what is said with appropriate caution. And of course there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed. But we shouldn't silence people for their candor on the ground that it damages someone's livelihood. Coaches, like all professionals, cannot have it both ways. If they can be praised anonymously (and they are), they should be subject to anonymous criticism too.Comment
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Every coach ....INCLUDING BOLTS COACH...can be over the top.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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