MIAA rules and fall practice

[Unregistered]

This is what it sounds like our coach is doing. Practice on Sundays and then another during the week, on top of the high school commitment. The kids are struggling to get all their work done and now they have to worry about missing the week day club practice. These are the same guys who say no other sports.

See my post #14 for why the CT rule isn't as ridiculous as it seems....

[Unregistered]

I agree it is lame and over reaching for them to make this a rule, but the idea isn't ridiculous. Do 9th-10th graders really need to be playing hard core soccer 7 days a week? A full HS schedule plus a tough Sunday club game or practice could be a bit unhealthy at that age. I agree it should be you and your kids choice, but sometimes, as this Board proves, kids need some protections from "responsible" adults and sometimes their own parents are far from responsible or even rational.

Good points -- when do you as parents step up for your kid and stop letting the uneducated coach run your kid into the ground. Stop being fooled by the "you must come or you won't get the college scholarship" line. It has been documented over and over again on here that most, read close to all, are getting small dollars.

[Unregistered]

Good points -- when do you as parents step up for your kid and stop letting the uneducated coach run your kid into the ground. Stop being fooled by the "you must come or you won't get the college scholarship" line. It has been documented over and over again on here that most, read close to all, are getting small dollars.

When as a parent do you stop micro-managing your teenagers life and let THEM choose whether they want to play club or HS. Club soccer serves a parents emotional needs more than it serves the players. There simply is no comparison between club soccer and HS soccer in terms of the importance that it plays in a HS players life. Obviously for many programs the level of play falls short of club but at the same time scoring a goal in a HS game is exponentially more thrilling than scoring in club. Why? Because when you play for your HS you are playing for something bigger than yourself. You are playing for your teammates, your school, your town, your neighbors, friends, family, and classmates. This is why most good players resist their parents efforts to draw them away from HS soccer and stick with it. Club is mercenarial. HS is communal.

Stop trying to turn your kid against HS soccer. They RESENT you for it.

[Unregistered]

Good points -- when do you as parents step up for your kid and stop letting the uneducated coach run your kid into the ground. Stop being fooled by the "you must come or you won't get the college scholarship" line. It has been documented over and over again on here that most, read close to all, are getting small dollars.

The charlatans must be controlled somehow. And its not a ridiculous rule. It is important for an athlete to be recognized for their talent and accomplishments which is present in a high school setting and within the local community. Playing for a high-level club is in essence a regional all star team and outside of family and teammates they receive very little attention. Friends of the player are generally not going to travel to watch and support them unless its an intimate relationship situation and press coverage is virtually nonexistant with a few exceptions. A meaningless game between two cellar dwelling highschool teams receives coverage in the Boston Globe, while club accomplishments only receive coverage when they are in the Nationals. It's also why many younger kids continue to play for their town travel soccer team must to the disdain of club coaches everywhere.

[Unregistered]

I agree it is lame and over reaching for them to make this a rule, but the idea isn't ridiculous. Do 9th-10th graders really need to be playing hard core soccer 7 days a week? A full HS schedule plus a tough Sunday club game or practice could be a bit unhealthy at that age. I agree it should be you and your kids choice, but sometimes, as this Board proves, kids need some protections from "responsible" adults and sometimes their own parents are far from responsible or even rational.

I might agree; however it makes no sense to force even those who aren't practicing with their high school teams not to practice with their clubs. Personally, I find education a better way to address the problem.

[Unregistered]

What right does a state athletic association have to tell parents and players what they can do or not do in their spare time? I think this is the view that MIAA actually holds. They have no right, so they basically control the situation through the Bonafide Member Rule. I know some don't like the rule, but I view it as a pretty fair means of dealing with the problem.

[Unregistered]

Back to an earlier post on people who will rat out those who cross the MIAA rule and go to their club practice after already practicing with their high school team. If my kid goes and someone decides to tell on them does that really jeapordize the high school team??

[Unregistered]

Back to an earlier post on people who will rat out those who cross the MIAA rule and go to their club practice after already practicing with their high school team. If my kid goes and someone decides to tell on them does that really jeapordize the high school team??

No one, because you can go to the club practice after the high school practice. You just can't go to the club practice INSTEAD of the high school practice. Get it?

[Unregistered]

What right does a state athletic association have to tell parents and players what they can do or not do in their spare time? I think this is the view that MIAA actually holds. They have no right, so they basically control the situation through the Bonafide Member Rule. I know some don't like the rule, but I view it as a pretty fair means of dealing with the problem.

It's not your "spare time" if you have a scheduled HS sports activity. Not defending MIAA but their rule doesn't impede your free time, only times when there is practice or a game for HS. Outside of those times, you can run marathons if you want.

[Unregistered]

Back to an earlier post on people who will rat out those who cross the MIAA rule and go to their club practice after already practicing with their high school team. If my kid goes and someone decides to tell on them does that really jeapordize the high school team??

It's a PRIORITY rule. HS gets first priority. If there is no HS game or practice, you can play for a dozen clubs if you want, HS just gets 1st priority.

[Beachbum]

The MIAA rules are, IMHO, insane, archaic and a tremendous incursion into my family and its freedom of choice. I have a vitriol dislike for them.

That said, when you signed up, tried out and accepted a position at a HS team, you did so accepting the rules and these are the (probably unconstitutional) rules. Its like a drug test for employment in a company, it is probably an illegal search but while your fighting that someone else has the job you want. It is what it is and it is what you signed up for.

And be sure, the small little bitter man whose daughter has no athletic talent beyond the ability to smile at daddy and gets no field time at all will serve your daughter on a platter at the first chance he gets as much out of bitterness as a deluded hope that with YOUR daughter out of the way HIS daughter may get 30 seconds ... maybe even a whole minute of field time.

Lastly, the club coach should make the practice as optional as possible making it very clear even to those on the lower end of the team scale how really optional the practice(s) are. There should be no pressure to make the practices pother than a desire to see friends and teammates again and enjoy the session.

[Unregistered]

It's not your "spare time" if you have a scheduled HS sports activity. Not defending MIAA but their rule doesn't impede your free time, only times when there is practice or a game for HS. Outside of those times, you can run marathons if you want.

Please reread the post you are responding to carefully before replying.

[Unregistered]

The MIAA rules are, IMHO, insane, archaic and a tremendous incursion into my family and its freedom of choice. I have a vitriol dislike for them.

That said, when you signed up, tried out and accepted a position at a HS team, you did so accepting the rules and these are the (probably unconstitutional) rules. Its like a drug test for employment in a company, it is probably an illegal search but while your fighting that someone else has the job you want. It is what it is and it is what you signed up for.

And be sure, the small little bitter man whose daughter has no athletic talent beyond the ability to smile at daddy and gets no field time at all will serve your daughter on a platter at the first chance he gets as much out of bitterness as a deluded hope that with YOUR daughter out of the way HIS daughter may get 30 seconds ... maybe even a whole minute of field time.

Lastly, the club coach should make the practice as optional as possible making it very clear even to those on the lower end of the team scale how really optional the practice(s) are. There should be no pressure to make the practices pother than a desire to see friends and teammates again and enjoy the session.

Thx. Unfortunatley for my daughter she plays for a coach who will play games with our attendance and anyone else who dares not to come. It is going to be a long fall.

[Unregistered]

The MIAA rules are, IMHO, insane, archaic and a tremendous incursion into my family and its freedom of choice. I have a vitriol dislike for them.

That said, when you signed up, tried out and accepted a position at a HS team, you did so accepting the rules and these are the (probably unconstitutional) rules. Its like a drug test for employment in a company, it is probably an illegal search but while your fighting that someone else has the job you want. It is what it is and it is what you signed up for.

And be sure, the small little bitter man whose daughter has no athletic talent beyond the ability to smile at daddy and gets no field time at all will serve your daughter on a platter at the first chance he gets as much out of bitterness as a deluded hope that with YOUR daughter out of the way HIS daughter may get 30 seconds ... maybe even a whole minute of field time.

Lastly, the club coach should make the practice as optional as possible making it very clear even to those on the lower end of the team scale how really optional the practice(s) are. There should be no pressure to make the practices pother than a desire to see friends and teammates again and enjoy the session.

You sure come across as the bitter one in that post BB!

[Beachbum]

You sure come across as the bitter one in that post BB!

Yeah, I probably do.

To me this is like the SRI rule of only 5 players state transfers will be signed in the RI Thread.

The MIAA has the rule because they know what happens if they do not and it doesn't end well for them. You only need rules like this because you know without them you are screwed.

Its not a matter of which is more important or should have priority, it is the lack of choice I as a parent have had taken away from me. The MIAA believes it has the right to tell me how to raise and what are the appropriate priorities from my daughter. I find that highly offensive and totally overreaching.